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羊群效应理论（The Effect of Sheep Flock），也称羊群行为（Herd Behavior）羊群心理 herd instinct: 從眾效應或樂隊花車效應（Bandwagon effect）是指人們受到多數人一致性思想或行动的影響，而跟從大眾的思想或行為，常被稱為「羊群效應」。 也称“跟风效应”，英文中将其描述为：TheGreater-fool-Game，意为“下家都是比你更大的傻瓜”。
“羊群效应”也叫“从众效应”：是个人的观念或行为由于真实的或想像的群体的影响或压力，而向与多数人相一致的方向变化的现象。表现为对特定的或临时的情境中的优势观念和行为方式的采纳（随潮）表现为对长期性的占优势地位的观念和行为方式的接受（顺应风俗习惯）。人们会追随大众所同意的，将自己的意见默认否定，且不会主观上思考事件的意义. 羊
群是一种很散乱的组织，平时在一起也是盲目地左冲右撞，但一旦有一只头羊动起来，其他的羊也会不假思索地一哄而上，全然不顾前面可能有狼或者不远处有更好的草。因此，“羊群效应”就是比喻人都有一种从众心理，从众心理很容易导致盲从，而盲从往往会陷入骗局或遭到失败。
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You're 纳税人 - I can see your point and your frustration - that's what I intended to say in the post -
That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解读屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中国崛起. Scientists need to take the responsibility to explain to tax payers - Whatever taken will be getting back to tax payers in what way - let the public trust scientists.
In reality, a country like China size, the government should never try to mobilize all to get a Nobel Prize, to do basic research with massive money - it's impossible. Let the nature takes course: If you're Nobel material, you'll pan out regardless. Some leaders don't realize how much power they have - I'd pray for their wisdom to lead the public to a productive journey 中国崛起.
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纳税人解读屠呦呦施一公科学家学会解读纳税人才是中国崛起
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纳税人学会解读科学家, 科学家学会解读纳税人才是中国崛起
你问一百个纳税人，你会得到一百不同的解读。你拿纳税人的钱，你得回答你是怎么用纳税人的钱。官，科学，教学，都一样。什么是民主？什么是法治？这就是：你拿纳税人的钱，你得回答你是怎么用纳税人的钱。我们很多人拿纳税人的钱并不想回答！
“回答你？你够格吗？你懂科学？”
“够格”由谁定义? 纳税人? 拿纳税人钱的人?
五个人的解读施一公 -“牢骚太盛?”－很多人承受不了啦！你是哪一个解读？要民主的解读? 还是要法治的解读？
你要民主法治的解读?
你得听施一公对你的解读的解读 - 施一公的回答。
你拿纳税人的钱，陈楷翰:”拍马还是广告甚至臭骂都是可以接受的，那是小节，”“科学家是解决问题和建立思想来的，不是搂钱来的，也不是贫嘴来的，不是那些迅速被世界淘汰掉的所谓“基础研究”，更不是比赛花钱的，只要拿出的东西远大于消耗的东西，大家都会尊重你的存在，容忍你的毛病，这才是大节，不然就是职业混混，本来中国大陆的传统就是落井下石+锦上添花的，没法指望世态如何，实诚话，说过别记在心上，见谅。”(本文引用地址：http://blog.sciencenet.cn/blog-561693-929419.html 此文来自科学网陈楷翰博客，转载请注明出处。)
谢力: “钱学森在1987年的10月，也就是在所谓清华大学对严新气功的证实以后的3个月，在给后来与诺奖“擦肩而过”的余亚纲回信中说的太对：“科学要从事实出发，并且最终要接受事实的检验”。嗯，将“事实”换成“群众”，那就是从胜利走向胜利的不二法宝。对诺奖的讨论，就是“从群众中来，到群众中去”，这叫理论自信。”(本文引用地址：http://blog.sciencenet.cn/blog-669170-929423.html 此文来自科学网谢力博客，转载请注明出处。)
牢骚太盛?民主？法治？承受接受事实的解读?
屠呦呦施一公解读纳税人, 纳税人解读屠呦呦施一公: 这种互动有利科学大环境。If you can't explain your science in plain language, so simple that laymen can understand - you don't know your science at all. You can't live in an ivory tower if you use the money from tax payers - it's your responsibility to get back to those tax payers. Vice versa - you can't complain if as tax payers you don't ask about science.
科学家学会解读纳税人纳税人解读科学家, －才是中国崛起, 才不是被牵着鼻子走。
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- 删除回复[15]文克玲
- 12楼：而且国家也给了这些人最高荣誉称号，就是不拿一分钱的经费，他们也有义务做出杰出的工作。
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因果颠倒！杰出工作在先，荣誉称号在后！
- 删除回复[14]文克玲
- 请博主做个示范，证明你不是什么“职业混混”之类。
- 博主回复(2015-10-30 12:55)：Thanks for your comment. It's cited from 陈楷翰:”引用地址：http://blog.sciencenet.cn/blog-561693-929419.html 此文来自科学网陈楷翰博客". If you asked about my opinion, you read about http://blog.sciencenet.cn/blog-847277-740998.html
本文引用地址：http://blog.sciencenet.cn/blog-847277-740998.html 此文来自科学网
- 删除回复[13]wangqinling
- 接着8楼说的，既然科研是贵族项目，就不要鼓励全民来玩，就让贵族去玩嘛。也不要用纳税人的钱钦造贵族嘛。
- 博主回复(2015-10-30 13:07)：Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some science elites don't think much about tax payers' benefit.
- 删除回复[12]高召顺
- 不仅是钱的问题，而且国家也给了这些人最高荣誉称号，就是不拿一分钱的经费，他们也有义务做出杰出的工作。就像劳模、英雄这些称号一样，既然拥有这些称号，就不能和平常人一样。
- 博主回复(2015-10-30 13:15)：That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解读屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中国崛起. Scientists need to take the responsibility to explain to tax payers - Whatever taken will be getting back to tax payers in what way - let the public trust scientists.
- 删除回复[11]侯成亚
- 还是毛主席说得对：思想政治上的路线正确与否，是决定一切的。
思想一旦走上了歪门邪道，神仙也没办法！ - 博主回复(2015-10-30 13:20)：You're 纳税人 - I can see your point. That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解读屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中国崛起. Scientists need to take the responsibility to explain to tax payers - Whatever taken will be getting back to tax payers in what way - let the public trust scientists.
- 删除回复[10]biofans
- 读了半天，不知题目是啥意思。
- 博主回复(2015-10-30 13:10)：Sorry. Can you make it better? Here is my clarification: Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解读屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中国崛起.
- 删除回复[9]侯成亚
- 49年建国，50年全国解放，到处是烂摊子，真正的一穷二白，两手空空，到72年，只有短短的22年，出了青蒿素，还有在那前后的胰岛素、两弹一星，等等。从“科学的春天”到现在已近漫漫的40年了，条件上可以说一个地下，一个天上。可前后两相比较，情况究竟如何 呢? 再弄不出重大创新成果，天理不容！
- 博主回复(2015-10-30 13:21)：You're 纳税人 - I can see your point and your frustration - that's what I intended to say in the post -
That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解读屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中国崛起. Scientists need to take the responsibility to explain to tax payers - Whatever taken will be getting back to tax payers in what way - let the public trust scientists.
- 删除回复[8]范丁丁
- 科学工作对于一个国家就像做长线投资和政府项目，看不到明显的成果，确是必须的。纳税人是什么人？可不像投资人那么好定义。在我看来不是普通百姓。大部分人的见识有限，思维狭隘，见识短浅。所以早期的科学成了贵族项目。
- 博主回复(2015-10-30 13:18)："纳税人是什么人？可不像投资人那么好定义。在我看来不是普通百姓." That's quite bizzar - anyone who pays tax is 纳税人 (including sale tax) -
That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解读屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中国崛起. Scientists need to take the responsibility to explain to tax payers - Whatever taken will be getting back to tax payers in what way - let the public trust scientists.
- 删除回复[7]邹谋炎
- 科学家也是纳税人!
别人不敢说,但屠呦呦是纳税人,是有大贡献的纳税人.她的探索精神和献身精神是应该肯定的,是科技人员该学的.
请我们的同胞更多地尊重自己同胞的劳动.想想吧,她的劳动要得到承认有多不容易! - 博主回复(2015-10-30 13:24)：科学家也是纳税人! That's true, but how much tax a scientist pay? How much a scientist use? That proportion takes the obligation! If a scientist use more than he pays - that carry the obligation!
You're 纳税人 - I can see your point and your frustration - that's what I intended to say in the post -
That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解读屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中国崛起. Scientists need to take the responsibility to explain to tax payers - Whatever taken will be getting back to tax payers in what way - let the public trust scientists.
- 删除回复[6]loyalSciencefan
- 用纳税人的钱慕取自己的名利，那叫可耻！！！！！！
- 博主回复(2015-10-30 13:26)：That's true, but how much tax does a scientist pay? How much does a scientist use? That proportion takes the obligation! If a scientist uses more than he pays - carrying the obligation!
You're 纳税人 - I can see your point and your frustration - that's what I intended to say in the post -
That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解读屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中国崛起. Scientists need to take the responsibility to explain to tax payers - Whatever taken will be getting back to tax payers in what way - let the public trust scientists.
- 删除回复[5]lichunjie08
- 对，要对得起纳税人，特别是项目多的老师
- 博主回复(2015-10-30 13:12)：That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解读屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中国崛起.
- 删除回复[4]谢强
- 纳税人供养了所谓的科学家，科学家应该有良心，扪心自问，用纳税人的钱究竟做了什么？
- 博主回复(2015-10-30 13:12)：That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解读屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中国崛起.
- 删除回复[3]wangqinling
- 拿纳税人的钱是要有良心的，要问自己为纳税人做了什么，而不是将钱当作自己的应得。
- 博主回复(2015-10-30 13:26)：You're 纳税人 - I can see your point and your frustration - that's what I intended to say in the post -
That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解读屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中国崛起. Scientists need to take the responsibility to explain to tax payers - Whatever taken will be getting back to tax payers in what way - let the public trust scientists.
- 删除回复[2]张骥
- 羊群效应不可避免
- 博主回复(2015-10-30 13:33)：You're sharp! Well said! You got my point! 羊群效应理论（The Effect of Sheep Flock），也称羊群行为（Herd Behavior）羊群心理 herd instinct: 從眾效應或樂隊花車效應（Bandwagon effect）是指人們受到多數人一致性思想或行动的影響，而跟從大眾的思想或行為，常被稱為「羊群效應」。 也称“跟风效应”，英文中将其描述为：TheGreater-fool-Game，意为“下家都是比你更大的傻瓜”。“羊群效应”也叫“从众效应”：是个人的观念或行为由于真实的或想像的群体的影响或压力，而向与多数人相一致的方向变化的现象。表现为对特定的或临时的情境中的优势观念和行为方式的采纳（随潮）表现为对长期性的占优势地位的观念和行为方式的接受（顺应风俗习惯）。人们会追随大众所同意的，将自己的意见默认否定，且不会主观上思考事件的意义. 羊群是一种很散乱的组织，平时在一起也是盲目地左冲右撞，但一旦有一只头羊动起来，其他的羊也会不假思索地一哄而上，全然不顾前面可能有狼或者不远处有更好的草。因此，“羊群效应”就是比喻人都有一种从众心理，从众心理很容易导致盲从，而盲从往往会陷入骗局或遭到失败。
You're 纳税人 - I can see your point and your frustration - that's what I intended to say in the post -
That's true - Science was conducted by elites, who used their own money. Now, science is a job - some scientists don't think much about tax payers' benefit. My point was to hope the public start to 解读屠呦呦施一公, like science - that's really 中国崛起. Scientists need to take the responsibility to explain to tax payers - Whatever taken will be getting back to tax payers in what way - let the public trust scientists.
