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奥修还原了佛祖在《心经》中的的公开秘密

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感谢gwangmsn朋友的提醒,根据他的建议OSHO大师对《心经》的翻译最接近佛的原意,我以前没有读过。在网上找到了OSHO的英文版《心经》的详细解说,很多文字,他的读物的特点就是长,但解释的很仔细,OSHO是悟者,虽然他在世时在美国影响很大,引起一些争议,不改变他是一位彻悟者,我很推荐你们去读: 

http://www.oshorajneesh.com/download/osho-books/buddha/The_Heart_Sutra.pdf

匆匆读了一下上面这篇文章,只看了一些精髓,写的很好,特别是第82到84页,他说的不就是我在另外一篇博文中说的嘛:没有‘痛苦’因为痛苦本身就是幻觉。下面我把OSHO在他的第82-84页上的文字拷贝下来并翻译成中文: 



THERE IS NO SUFFERING... 

标题:不存在痛苦。。。


Now he comes to the ultimate revolutionary statement. 
You must have heard about the four noble truths of Buddha.

The first noble truth is suffering: that everybody is suffering, that the whole existence is dukkha, suffering, pain, misery, agony. 
And the second noble truth is: its origination is in craving -- tanha, desire. Suffering exists: 
the first noble truth -- arya satya; the second noble truth is that suffering has a cause and the cause is in desire. We suffer because we desire. 
And the third noble truth is: this desiring can be stopped. It is possible -- nirodha; it can be stopped. By looking deep into desiring it can be stopped, and when desiring stops suffering disappears. And the fourth noble truth is: there is an eightfold path that leads to the stoppage, nirodha, of desiring, and consequently of suffering. 

现在他(佛祖)终于讲到最终极的最具有革命性的语句了。你一定知道佛的四大基本真理。第一个真理是《痛苦》:也就是说每个人都在经受痛苦,整个存在是痛苦,痛,悲哀,恼怒。 第二个真理是《欲望造成了痛苦》:也就是说,因为有欲望,导致了痛苦。佛通过第二个真理说明痛苦的原因是欲望,因为欲望才产生痛苦。第三个真理是《欲望可以停止灭绝的》,也就是说,当欲望停止后,痛苦即刻消散。通过对痛苦的研究询问痛苦的真相,可以停止痛苦。第四个真理是有《八大正道》通向欲望的消散以至于获得痛苦的停止。


This is Buddhism's most fundamental philosophy, and in this statement Buddha denies that too! He says: 
THERE IS NO SUFFERING, NO ORIGINATION, NO STOPPING, AND NO PATH. 
Nobody has ever stated such a revolutionary thing. Buddha reaches the uttermost peak of revolution; everybody else falls short. 
Scholars have always been worried that this is contradictory. Buddha teaches that there is suffering, and then one day he says, "There is no suffering." He teaches that there is a cause for why suffering is, and then one day he says, "There is no origination." He teaches that there is a possibility -- nirodha -- that it can be stopped, and one day he says, "There is no stopping." 
And he says -- and the whole of Buddhism depends on that saying -- that there is an eightfold path, astangik marga: right vision, right exercise, right meditation, right samadhi, and so on and so forth; the eight-limbed path which leads you to the ultimate truth. And now one day he says, "There is no path. The reality is a pathless reality." Why this contradiction? The first statement is made to those who do not know that they are not. The first statements are made to ordinary people, full of ego. This statement is made to Sariputra in a particular space, in a particular state. 

四大真理是佛教最基本的哲学体系。可以在下面这句话中,佛祖把四大真理的哲学体系给否定了!他说:没有痛苦,没有因(ORIGINATION),没有停止,没有道路”  没有人说过具有这样革命性的语句。佛祖达到了革命的巅峰。其他人都相去甚远。

学者们一直纠结担心佛祖在经文中明显的逻辑矛盾。一方面佛祖告诉学生们“痛苦是有的”,然后突然有一天佛祖宣称“没有痛苦”。他教育学生们痛苦的原因是欲望,突然有一天他说“没有原因”(There is no origination)。佛一面教育学生们“有停止欲望停止痛苦的可能性”,突然有一天他宣称“没有停止”概念。整个佛教是建立在认可佛祖的八大道路的基础上的。这八个正道就是佛教徒们不容置疑的:正见,正思,正悟,正业,正命,正精进,正念,正定。通过遵循这八个大道会把你带到终极的真相。突然有一天,佛祖宣称:“没有道路”!真相是没有道路的真相。

为什么佛祖一面讲一个道理,反过来否定这个道理?这是矛盾吗?四大真理是说给那些还不知道“他们”不存在的‘人’听的(明亮先生注释,四大真理是说给EGO听的)。四大真理是说给普通人听的。普通人充满了个体“我”的幻觉(FULL OF EGO)。但说给极少数的学生比如坐在佛祖面前的舍利子徒弟将是完全不同的教育。

THEREFORE, O SARIPUTRA...

... Now I can say this to you. I could not have said it before, you were not ready. Now you have looked into me, and looking into me you have seen what nothingness is. You have had a taste of it! Therefore, Sariputra: tasmat, Sariputra! Now it is possible to say to you that there is no suffering, that it is a dream; people are suffering in dream. And there is no causation -- people are desiring in a dream. And there is no stopping -- people are exercising, doing methods, meditating, yoga etcetera, in a dream. And the whole path exists in the dream. Now it can be said to you because you are awake, Sariputra. Your eyes are opened; now you see the ego does not exist.

佛继续对舍利子说:“。。。现在我终于可以告诉你真相了,以前我还无法对你说,因为你还没有准备好。现在你对着我看,你在我中看到了什么是“空”(Nothingness)。你已经尝到了它的滋味!因此,舍利子,现在我终于可以告诉你没有痛苦,因为痛苦是一场梦;人们承受的痛苦只发生在梦中。我也可以告诉你没有原因,因为欲望只会在梦里产生的,无原因的。也没用停止,因为只在梦里看似有人在修行(Exercising),做事情,静坐,做瑜伽。这些统统都是梦里的情节。“八大正道”只存在于梦境里。舍利子,现在你差不多醒过来了,我可以告诉你真相了,你的眼睛睁开了,现在你知道个人“我”(EGO)根本不存在。

And to get out of the ego is to get out of sleep. To get out of the ego is to get out of darkness. To get out of the ego is to be free. In that freedom it can be said that there is no path. It is like a dream.

脱离个体“我”(EGO)幻觉就是从梦中醒来。脱落EGO就是从无明中醒来。脱落EGO就是自由。在这个自由中可以说没有道路。所有的四大真相都是梦里的“真相”。

In dream you are suffering, and when you are suffering in a dream, it is so real. And you are searching: "Why am I suffering?" And then you come across a great sage -- in the dream -- and the sage says, "You are suffering because you are desiring. You are so much infatuated with money; that's why you are suffering. Drop this desire and the suffering will disappear." You understand it, it is very logical. You know it, you have experienced it yourself that whenever you desire, suffering comes. The more desire is there, the more suffering. The greater the desire the bigger the suffering. You understand it. Then you ask, "Then how to stop it?" And the great sage says, "You stand on your head, you do yoga, you do chaotic meditation, you do kundalini, you do nadabrahma, you do encounter group and you do leela and you do primal therapy and all." The great sage says, "You do these things; these will help. You will become more understanding of your desire, and you will be able to drop the desire."

在梦里“你”感觉到承受痛苦,当“你”在梦里承受痛苦的时候,看上去是非常真实的。“你”不断地探索:“为什么我会承受痛苦?”然后某一天你遇到某一位在梦中的大师,这位大师说:“因为你有欲望所以感觉痛苦。你太依附于金钱财富,这就是你痛苦的原因;请放下这些欲望,你的痛苦就会停止”。你听懂了这个非常符合逻辑的道理。你当然理解了,你也确实体验到每当欲望升起的时候,痛苦就随之而来。你的欲望越强烈,痛苦就越剧烈。然后你问大师:“如何让欲望停止?”大师回答道:“你颠倒你的身体开始练习瑜伽,你必须做静坐练习,你要做KUNDALINI,你要去参加集体静坐学习班或参加大师的SATSANG,你要遵循八大正道”。大师继续说道:“如果你做了这些事情,它们会对你有帮助的。你会对你的欲望理解更深刻,然后你就可以放下这些欲望了。”

So the sage gives you a well-formulated eightfold path. He says, "This is the way." One day, when you will really be awake... And remember, these things help you to awake. Now even if you stand on your head in a dream there is a possibility your dream will be broken. Try! Try tonight! When you are in a dream, just stand on your head in the dream, and suddenly you will see that you are awake. Do kundalini in a dream -- you will be awake. And if you are not, at least your husband will be awake, the neighbors will be awake, something is going to happen.

All methods are just to wake you. But when you are awake...

然后大师建议你遵循非常精准的《八大正道》。他说:“这就是正道”。某一天,你确实醒来了。。。记住,这些东西可能帮助你醒来。回想一下昨晚的梦里吧,当“你”在梦里做颠倒身体的瑜伽练习的时候,有可能梦立刻破灭了。请你试试看吧,努力地试试看!当你在梦里的时候,试图把身体倒过来,站在你头上,突然,有可能你会发现你已经醒来了。请你试试看在梦里做KUNDALINI练习,你也会醒来的。如果你醒不过来,至少你的丈夫会醒来,至少你的邻居会醒来,反正有事情会发生的。

一切方法都是为了使你醒来。。。

THEREFORE, SARIPUTRA...

And now Buddha can say this to Sariputra; he is awake. He can say, "Now I can tell you the truth -- that nobody exists, neither the disciple nor the master, nor the dream, nor the suffering, nor the sage, nor the cause, nor the stopping. There is no path."

This is the ultimate statement of truth.

But this can be made only at the highest stage, at the seventh rung of the ladder. Sariputra reached to that rung on this day. That's why 'therefore'... TASMAT SARIPUTRA.

Enough for today.

佛祖对舍利子继续说,这时,坐在佛祖面前的舍利子是清醒的,佛对他说:“现在我可以告诉你真相了 —— 没有‘人’存在。既没有徒弟,也没有大师,也没有梦,也没有痛苦,也没有圣者,也没有原因,也没有停止。没有任何道路。”

上面这句话就是终极真相。

这句真相只适合对最高层次的那位说的,好像他到了楼梯的第七级。舍利子在那天达到了那一级。

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《明亮》的评论:

所以大家知道了吗,所谓的‘苦痛’所谓的‘修行’‘练习’都是说给认为自己是一个‘人’有一个‘我’的那位听的。对于悟性高到一定程度的那位,佛告诉他进一步的真相:否定‘痛苦’的存在,否定‘修行’的必要,否定‘静坐’,否定‘正念’,否定八大正道,否定三昧,否定任何概念。 
也就是说,只有悟性不够的“人”(EGO)需要去学佛教,学概念,对于悟性高到一定程度的那位,所有佛教教义都将无意义,可以放走了。佛在《心经》中基本否定了佛教的基本教义。但这不是矛盾。佛告诉高悟性的那位,真相并不需要遵循一个道路(PATH)去获得。真相是不需要获得的,是没有道路的(NO PATH),是近在眼前的,无距离的,立即的,立刻的,睁开眼看就看到的。这就是我最近写的两篇《非传统静思提纲》博文中指出的重点。 

如果你要《悟》不要去学佛教。请遵循《非传统静思提纲》的思路,放松下来,直接立即地观察最最直接的经验,每时每刻无距离接触。我不要你做一个“好人”,我要你发现你从来不是一个‘人’,根本不是一个‘人’,从来没有‘我’,根本没有个体‘我’(EGO)。我要你发现那么宝贵的‘你’是一个幻觉。 
如果你只想做一个好人,改善哪个宝贵的‘你’,改善梦生活让‘你’可以减轻梦痛苦以更好地享受梦生活,请去学佛教吧,佛教有很多道德规诫培养你做一个好人,佛教会给你安排一个很长的道路去跋涉,八大正道摆在你前面,去遵循漫长的修行道路,不妨你去试试吧,看你的悟性提高的何种程度,再回来看看我的东西不迟。

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