美国政府有关领取退休社会保障福利的年龄,也就是领取退休金的年龄有这样的规定,我们以在上世纪60年代和在此以后出生的人的退休年龄为例,他们的完全的退休年龄(the social security full retriment age)是67岁,但是据统计,在62岁时就开始申请退休金的人占了可以领取退休金人数的2/3。这些提早申请退休金的人是否应该等待呢?在这里就讲讲在62岁时申请社会保障福利退休金的原因和7个好的理由。
先举例,以最后工资年收入6万刀为例:
看图:Social Security Breakeven
年龄: 62=$1,180x192mon=$226,560
67=$1,789x132mon=$236,148
70=$2,320x96mon=$222,720
从图中能看出,以在62岁和在67岁拿退休金时每月能拿多少为例,在大概76岁前,62岁拿退休金的人每月会有损失,但等到了都是76.5岁时拿的总钱数就持平了。
再看下面的这张图:
两张图片来自网络
我个人认为,上面所说,不是提早拿退休金的主要理由,这还得看自己的身体状况、经济条件和当时的通货膨胀等等因素来综合考虑。
实际上根据网上资料显示,美国人申请在67岁以前拿退休金的情况是:
1. Early=small check-but more of them
2. American can expect to live a lifespan of around 78.6 years
3. Breakeven happens at 76+/-
不过有的人提出了提早拿退休金的可能存在的7点好的理由:
1. Filing unlocks another family member's benefits(#1 spousal);
2. Filer does not expect to live to "break-even";
3. Low or no provisional income now vs. later;
4. You will adopt a higher spousal benefit when your partner files;
5. Your partner's life expectancy is short(ugh!), and you will adopt a higher survivor benefits when your partner passes;
6. You'll have extra cash to spend early in retirement; and
7. Just need the money...
这个东西让人头疼,越想越糊涂。我的计算方法是假定一个寿命,例如83. 那么就是越早领取越合算。而且,到手的钱,能自己花,才是钱。
要是忍着不领取,到70才领取,没过几年401k就要RDM了,这税又上去了。
一笔糊涂账,我要早领,65岁就领。
https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/planner/applying7.html
If you earn over $18,240 in wages or salary, $1 in benefits will be withheld for every $2 in earnings above this threshold. The retirement earnings test might thus prevent you from double-dipping on income sources or paying off debt. ”
所以有些人会不选择全职工作,也就是挣的不超过$18,240, 不过有的全职工作好像也挣不过这个规定的数,总之,是不想被扣押社保金。
不明白为什么 “申请到退休金后,就不能有全职工作了(full time job)”?
既然无法预知生命的长度,那就拓宽生命的宽度吧。
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谢谢提醒,我今天终于查到了,原文如下:
“Here's what happens if you collect Social Security early while working
To answer the most basic question, you absolutely can work, part- or full-time, while receiving Social Security benefits. However, there are rules that limit how much of your benefit you're allowed to keep depending on your claiming age, full retirement age (i.e., the age you become eligible to receive 100% of your monthly benefit, as determined by your birth year), and your earned income.
For example, anyone receiving Social Security benefits who won't reach their full retirement age in 2020 (or any current year) is subject to what's known as the retirement earnings test. The retirement earnings test allows the Social Security Administration to withhold some or all of your benefits based on much you earn. In 2020, early filers are allowed to earn up to $18,240 ($1,520 a month) before withholding kicks in.
If you earn over $18,240 in wages or salary, $1 in benefits will be withheld for every $2 in earnings above this threshold. The retirement earnings test might thus prevent you from double-dipping on income sources or paying off debt. ”
你很乐观,这是正能量。活的长很多人都能做到,可是活得要有质量才是我们要追求的。当今这个社会,不是好死不如赖活着的时代了。
对于中国人来说,只要不是很晚才来美国的,经济上应该没问题的,无论何时支取都不会有财政困难。所以主要取决于62岁时的身体状况,我估计大多数人都不会取的,老中各个都奔90去的呀。老杨行,俺也行。
现在延迟到70岁才领社会保障退休金也是变相为自己买个保险,以防万一不小心活到99怎么办?
当然前提是你现在钱够用。
记得有个朋友估计自己能活到99岁,所以买了人寿保险,其中就有一条是活到99岁就可以拿到赔偿金,结果天有不测风云 人有旦夕祸福,在TA76岁时由于癌症去世了。所以有时我觉得越早拿越好,有时又会想,万一一不留神活到99岁呢,呵呵。。。人有时会很矛盾的
一般来说,如果估计活不过78岁,那么就62岁退休拿社保金为好,如果估计能活过78岁,那么可以选择67。但是,因人而异,每个人的人生观,金钱观各有不同,所以何时退休没有定规,没有标准答案。
看来,在美没钱退休也没什么可怕的,至于要攒多少个米才能退休,对多数老美来说就是天方夜谭,只有有些老中才有这个追求和炫耀。
申请到退休金后,就不能有全职工作了(full time job),看来提早领退休金,还是有着不小的吸引力。