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近期民主党似乎在大唱“敌人一天天烂下去,俺们一天天好起来”“不是小好是大好“的老歌。仔细透视一下数据,这里面似乎有疑点哈。
最有说服力的,莫过于来自老川“敌对阵营”的数据。请看亲民主党的CNN三次辩论的民调对比:
一辩:H 对 T : 62: 27,
二辩:57: 34,其中到有58%的人辩论前就表示支持希卿卿, biased sampling。
三辩:52: 39,
三场下来,希拉里下降10个百分点,老川上升了12个百分点。这是因为是老川在“丑闻”的压力下表现越来越好呢,还是希卿卿在“利好消息”的鼓舞下越来越差了?
CNN应该庆幸没有第四次辩论:照这个趋势,要是外推到第四次就基本扯平了?^_^
再看号称“Most accurate"的IBDC-TIPP: Trump leads by 1%
http://www.wnd.com/2016/10/most-accurate-poll-trump-leads-hillary-by-1/
The IBDC-TIPP Presidential Election Tracking Poll, described as the “most accurate poll in recent presidential elections,” on Wednesday had Donald Trump leading Hillary Clinton by one point, 41 percent to 40 percent.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/10/most-accurate-poll-trump-leads-hillary-by-1/#Dp20QF2b2WMwrBez.99
该调研机构在2004-2012的总统选举民调中均有很好的表现,可视为“中间派”:
"In 2004 and 2008, IBD/TIPP had the smallest deviation from the certified results, and across the last three presidential races, IBD/TIPP had the lowest average divergence.
In the 2012 race, polling analyst Nate Silver, then of the New York Times' blog FiveThirtyEight.com, ranked 23 presidential polling organizations using his own methodology and called IBD/TIPP "the most accurate" tracking poll for the year."
Investor's business daily: Trump leads by 1.3% (before and after the 3rd debate)
最后看非主流媒体的专业polling公司Rasmussen最新的结果。有的网友说Rasmussen右倾,不过这样也好,左(CNN)中(TIPP)右(Rasmussen)都齐了。
Trump leads by 3%, 43:40
“Thursday, October 20, 2016
It’s too early to measure the impact of last night’s final presidential debate, but Republican Donald Trump now has a three-point lead nationally on Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinto”
左中右三方调研结果的相同之处,在于老川的支持率都在上升。大家可以大致判断,事实上老川正在迎头赶上,选情胶着,这也是民主党内部实际上很恐慌的原因。最终鹿死谁手还不好说。不过如林肯名言所述:“You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannnot fool all the people all the time.”
静待真相于11月上旬揭晓。
请看今日“主流媒体”CNBC援助路透社的调查:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/22/trump-gains-on-clinton-poll-shows-rigged-message-resonates.html
Trump gains on Clinton, poll shows 'rigged' message resonates
俺前两天说“川普的实际支持率有可能正在上升”,现在进一步得到了主流媒体数据的支持。敬请评论。
哈哈,最近选战正酣,美国华人好久没有这么关心总统选举了。多谢老乡雅临留言!
多谢发表您的看法!
多谢指教,您的结论基于主流媒体的报道,所以是“民主党形势大好”;而俺只是从一个不同于主流的角度看问题而已,您用不着这么激动。我的结论是“可能正在在上升”,包括用了CNN左派的数据。:)如果您能解释这个趋势为何与CNN的其他民调不同,俺洗耳恭听。:)
另外您说的是团体辩论的情况。此处一对一,所以“一辩”“二辩”这样简称不会引起误会。
再谢。
你要接受基本事实,大多数州的结果已经明朗化了,剩下的摇摆州都归了川普他的票都不够了,更不用说摇摆州他还是落后。
本来大家都是发表自己的观点,就干脆点,你觉得谁会赢,得到多少票?
另外,一辩、二辩、三辩有它们本来的含义,你的用法有误。
多谢您雅临点评!好戏接着看。:)
本文的主旨是说老川支持率上升的趋势,鹿死谁手尚不知晓。关于您的预测,我们可以到11月8日以后再评论其准确度。谢谢留言。
回复 'iced91030' 的评论 :
多谢您的回复,我没有去查Rasmussen的历史,此处只是参考。关键是CNN的数据和号称准确预测了近些年选举结果的 IBDC-TIPP。
帮您把脏字去掉了,希望理解。
you are referring Rasmussen! You are kidding me.
Take a look at 2008 and 2012 result, Rasmussen numbers were way off, too bias to republican. they are the same as Pharos Research, only Pharos Research is bias to democrat.
it is OK to support Donald, no shame on that, but leave science out of it.
多谢垂赏点评。林肯这句话,堪称至理名言。