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再聊上海同济、武汉同济和武汉大学

(2020-04-27 11:32:28) 下一个

今晨看到一个帖子,称国家会投资近90个亿给母校同济医学院,文章也调侃了武汉大学当年沒合并同济实乃失策之举。看来同济校友对武大还是有情绪的,我读后便在朋友圈这样留言:

“天下同济校友至今没有原谅武大当年的傲慢[疑问]????。当时不是让武汉大学改名,是取名武汉大学同济医学院都不允许,武大要求彻底取消同济的牌子,同济那帮裘法祖和武忠弼不干了,“你武大算老几?我同济从上海迁汉时一级教授比武大还多”,所以与华工合并,逼华工改名。[强]????????

这次抗新冠病毒的头面人物彭志勇、张继先、张定宇、江学庆和“老子到处说”的艾芬都是同济校友,当然李文亮是武大医学院的校友。我在抗疫初期曾经感叹这应该是英雄倍出的时刻,现在看来他们就是令我们骄傲的英雄。这些名单还包括同济法医的刘良教授,众多同济和协和医院的专家教授们,新冠的很多诊疗标准出自这两间中国的著名医院。这次同济能够获得国家的重大投资是他们的功劳,虽然包括我在内的同济海外校友在抗疫初期因为着急而抨击过同济母校。朋友今天告诉我:“协和医院的家属小区,离臭名昭著的华南海鲜市场只有两百米之遥”

我帖出后迎来俩位武大校友的不同留言或跟帖,现附录如下:

武大校友A,华大MD毕业生的老爸和斯坦福还沒退学的在读生的老爸:“老子现在还骂母校[敲打]当时的校长就是猪队友。若老道在位,就是凭法老与他私人的关系,我与老兄早就是校友了。”

武大校友B:“我觉得同济医科大学就应该继续独立,既不跟武大也不跟华工合并。

武大为什么没有跟同济医科大学合并,各种传言很多。从地理位置来看,武大跟湖医合并,校区可以合并,比较方便走动。本来,武大跟湖医合并后,武大如果有心发展医学部门,可以通过招聘新人来迅速发展湖医,可惜没有大规模招聘,什么原因不清楚,武大也不是没钱。我想是武大几任校长,对发展医学部要么缺乏远见,要么被束缚,做不了什么事。

同济医科大学跟华工合并后,彼此似乎也没有什么互动,同济医科大学那边除了拿钱,依然我行我素。

其实同济医科大学一直独立挺好的,我乐见将来同济医科大学再次独立[Grin]”

另附同济校友的留言:“武大那邦领导就是蠢,没见过世面,武汉大学同济医学院有什么不行。这种事美国到处是,比如芝加哥大学XXX医学院,康奈尓大学XXX医学院.人家要拿钱来买名,同济这名本身就有有含金量.”


我本想找篇我的文章给他们看,以了解当时的那段历史,结果发现还不在公众号里,所以重帖如下:

上海同济 武汉同济  

(2017-03-05 14:26:53, 雅美之途)  

今年是同济医学院诞生110周年的校庆,使我想起自己在富有激情的岁月里做过的一件不成功的事情,一晃眼都快20年了。故事发生在1998年,当时我己经来美国8年了,但是通讯远没有现在这么通畅。我在网上游览时发现了上海同济大学的美国校友会的网站,他们的网站做得漂亮的原因恐怕是因为他们校友会主席是在同济学计算机出身的,而武汉同济当时没有任何的美国校友会,更谈不上网站了。  

当时新浙江大学已经通过合并产生,虽然只有浙大一家合并了,但对全国的冲击很大。原来的浙江医科大学已经成为新浙大的医学院,我想母校同济医科大学的命运也只能走合并的道路了。我觉得同济与其和武汉大学合并,不与重归上海同济而成为同济大学医学院,当时我借用美国康乃尔大学和它的医学院分隔几百英里的例子来说服自己和大家,如果当时有高铁就更有说服力了。我便给上海同济美国校友会的网上联系邮箱写了一封信,没有想到的是,他们以校友会主席吴建为主的数位负责人迅速并且热情地回应了我。吴建当时还是一位单身贵族,现在己经是相当成功的IT创业人士了。我们一拍即合地决定先在美国建立联合的同济校友会,将他们的网站改成联合校友会的网站,然后试图游说国内的两所同济响应。他们当时积极与上海同济大学女校长吴启迪联系,据说还得到了她的支持,我则给武汉的裘法祖教授写过亲笔信,但是没有得到裘先生的回函。他们还弄了个一官半职给我,任命我为同济大学美国联合校友会的副主席,让我负责武汉同济方面的工作。这样我起草了一份希望上海同济和武汉同济合并的英文呼吁书,放在了联合同济校友会的网上。  

虽然这是一段未竟的尝试,但它表达的是天下同济人对母校的感情,包括一位普通的武汉同济美国校友的担心,因为他的母校仅从校名来看就是这么颠簸流离:同济大学医学院、中南同济医学院、武汉医学院、同济医科大学和华中科技大学同济医学院。还是让大家读这段值得回味的历史吧:  

1。下面为我在2010年9月20日放入新浪博客时写的备注。当时我还不会中文输入法,所以全部用英文写成:  

We are surprised to realize that we have already arrived at an age that we are able to tell a decade-old story. In the fall of 1998, we sensed an upcoming transition that our Alma Mater, Tongji Medical University, may have to face in the era when the new Zhijiang University was emerging through the combination of four different schools in Hangzhou. My browse activities led me to find a newly developed website of Tongji University America Alumni Association (TJUAAA) under the leadership of their president Jian Wu. He was a computer science major from Shanghai Tongji and had been working as a software engineer in the Bay area of California. My email communication with Jian received an enthusiastic response to my initial proposal of exploring the possibility to merge two Tongjis in the future. After a few rounds of discussions, we believed it would be a good idea to have a combined Tongji website to serve all of the Tongji alumni. I drafted an essay to explain our joined mission and this article was put into the combined Tongji alumni website.

Unlike the strong influential alumni groups in the United States, our voice had limited calling power as this campaign was ultimately unsuccessful and we are now part of HUST since 2000. One positive outcome from this is that I got reconnected with one classmate who was doing the postdoctoral training in Germany, while I was coordinated to collect the communication list of the alumni from Wuhan Tongji. Later on, we all were aware of Chen Ligong's noted article on the opposition of Wuhan Tongji's merge with HUST, and some details in the nearly humiliated negotiation process with Wuhan University. We completely understood the feeling when Qiu Fazhu and Wu Zhongbi were in a position to defend Tongji’s brand in their talks with the arrogant Wuda officials. Reading through these twelve-year-old words, the emotion is still there.  

2。An essay written in 1998 for combined Tongji website: (当时我为同济大学联合美国校友会网站写的呼吁上海同济和武汉同济合并的英文文章,曾经放在我们网站的首页。当时中文软件更是十分缺乏,只能写英文)  

“As one of the most prestigious universities in China, Tongji started her prospective journey as a medical school in Shanghai, which was established by Germany physician Dr. Bolon in 1907. Early Tongji Medical School with its special relationship with Germany, while a powerhouse in medical education and research, had served as a unique academic basis to introduce modern western medicine to ancient China.  

The rich history of medical education has been associated with Tongji University for almost a half-century. However, the order of separating Tongji's Medical School from its main campus in the 1950s had a terrible impact on Tongji University's operation as a first-class university although the separated Tongji Medical University in Wuhan has been developed into one of the finest medical schools in China. Last year, thousands of Tongji alumni around the world, together with faculties and students of Tongji University in Shanghai (Shanghai Tongji) and Tongji Medical University in Wuhan (Wuhan Tongji), simultaneously celebrated our Alma Mater's 90 years birthday. Looking back, the two universities of Tongji not only share the respected name but also the tradition of excellence in teaching and research; Looking forward, the two Tongjis have to face the future challenge: recombination of the high education system in response to the merging China's economic power.  

The idea of potentially merging Shanghai Tongji and Wuhan Tongji in the near future has received a strong positive response from numerous alumni and friends associated with both universities. It will be an exciting project to pursue in terms of combining two solid schools with a similar history. In a united Tongji University, medical students need to spend three to four years of their college life on the main campus of Shanghai Tongji to build a solid foundation on basic science and humanity knowledge. With a deep understanding of the laws about how nature and society operate and function, the medical students will have more broad views to go back to Wuhan Tongji for finishing their formal medical training. The requirement of completed college education prior to medical school, beginning at Johns Hopkins University approximately one hundred years ago, is a characterized principle of America's medical education system. This system is renowned for its ability to produce not only highly qualified clinical practitioners to manage care but also the outstanding physician-scientists for scientific discovery and innovation. If we could establish this system in Tongji successfully, the demands of high-quality pre-medical education are also a driving force to enhance Shanghai Tongji's development on basic science and humanity departments, a transition from a technical institute into a real comprehensive university.  

It is obvious that we need to work hard to overcome the geographic barrier between Wuhan and Shanghai, but these concerns can be minimized in the situation when China becomes more advanced in electrical communication and transportation. In the United States, one of Ivy League, Cornell University has been successfully operating its medical school in New York City, several hundred miles from its main campus in Ithaca, Upstate New York. We even can view this problem positively, medical students who have a privilege to study in the environment of both shanghai and Wuhan sub-cultures will enrich their life experiences in a wonderful young age.  

It is also a privilege for any comprehensive university (even in the United States) to host a medical school. There are only 128 medical schools in this country compared with more than one thousand universities and colleges around the fifty states. If you consider the University of California at San Francisco (UCSF) as a medical school of UC, Berkeley, Princeton University may be the only elite comprehensive university that does not have a medical school in the United States. We have impressed that the medical schools in this country are almost always the largest and most important component in the university. The reason for this phenomenon is very simple, that is because human beings care about themselves, life science has a direct beneficial impact on mankind.  

We have demonstrated that the unification of two universities of Tongji is an exciting project to explore. The positive results of the project will benefit both universities and significantly improve Tongji University's position in the map of China's high education. We have agreed to unite our America's Alumni organization of both schools as one of the initial steps. Let's work together to push this project forward and turn our dream into a reality as soon as it can.”

 

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华府采菊人 回复 悄悄话 回复 'Yangtze430030' 评论 : 这应该是黄伯云的政治智慧,不争“校长”位置之一时
Yangtze430030 回复 悄悄话 不过还是要赞中南大学的校长,为学校的发展着想。据说湖南政府有意并湘雅入湖南大学,但湖大校长自己打小九九,湘雅名声太大,湖大校长怕位置不保。结果把湖南大学自己把自己整死了!湖南现在最好的大学是中南而非湖大。
雅美之途 回复 悄悄话 回复 'slow_quick' 的评论 : 是的,1300人furloughed 了,停薪留职。
slow_quick 回复 悄悄话 雅美老,你们大学也开始furlough了吗?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2020/04/21/university-furlough-update-add-michigan-kentucky-boise-state--and-washington-university-to-the-list/#424d8a547bd5
沔阳木匠 回复 悄悄话 武大合并湖医,四个校区连成一片,确实是全国独一无二。可惜湖医底子太弱。舒红兵正面作用有限,而李红良则糟蹋了武大的名声。 当年差点追随某位同学去了武医。差一点就和雅美先生是校友了。
亦中 回复 悄悄话 *上海的同济医学院,旧址在凤阳路二军大长征医院。
*从同济分出来的同德医学院, 后并入上二医。陈中伟是同德入,二医毕。
*上二医并入交大,交大赚大发了。现在交大大部分国家级研究经费来之于上二医部分。
*上医并入复旦,仍保持复旦上海医学院名称
*协和并清华,到现在不清不楚。哪有美国洛克非勒医院并给留美预备学校的?
华府采菊人 回复 悄悄话 合并医学院,原本就是一“昏招”,有的大学原有的医学院被院系调整“整”出去了,如今“回家”,十分正常,但那些“生拉硬扯”的合并医学院,就实在太莫名其妙了,武汉的同济医学院,回上海“同济”老家,应该是顺理成章的。
复旦吃上海第一医学院,川大并华西,中南(鄙母校)合湘雅,都属于没事找抽的光辉典范
psp2000 回复 悄悄话 今天,英国医疗系统NHS发布紧急通告称,最近在医院接受重症监护的儿童患者数量急剧上升,这些可能和新冠病毒有关的患病儿童有严重的“炎症综合症”,但部分儿童的新冠检测呈阴性。全英医疗系统仍在对此现象进行密切跟踪关注。

英国好像是有人反疫苗的,如果能有这些小孩是否接种过疫苗的数据就太好了。
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