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马来西亚前总理马哈蒂尔：中国发展不可阻挡
马哈蒂尔严厉批评了美国遏制中国崛起的努力。
2025年5月3日
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/you-cant-stop-china-from-growing-says-ex-malaysian-pm-mahathir
八打灵再也——马来西亚前总理马哈蒂尔认为，美国正在“挑衅”中国，使其走向灾难性的冲突。
在接受《时代》杂志采访时，马哈蒂尔严厉批评了美国遏制中国崛起的努力。
“他们非常勤劳，技艺高超，你无法阻止他们发展。”
“中国会竭尽全力保住市场，他们现在的做法和欧洲人之前的做法一模一样。”他说道。
马哈蒂尔甚至称美国在南海的“航行自由”行动“破坏稳定”，并呼吁美国撤军。
“假设中国派军舰前往加勒比海并在那里进行（演习），美国会怎么做？”
“这不是美国，这是南海，这是亚洲。美国是世界强国，但你必须明智地使用这种力量，不要挑起国家间的冲突。”他说道。
当被问及中国2月份在新西兰附近进行的突击实弹演习时，马哈蒂尔对此无动于衷，他带着迷人的笑容告诉《时代》杂志：“新西兰仍然是远东。”
这位前总理最近在吉隆坡的办公室接受了采访。《时代》杂志指出，尽管他已年逾99岁，但他仍然每天早上8点45分到达办公桌，很少在下午5点之前离开。
“我总是建议人们，上了年纪后应该积极活动。让自己忙碌起来，让你的大脑也忙碌起来。如果他们沉睡，就会失去活力。”他告诉这家美国新闻杂志。
《时代》杂志称，2020年，马哈蒂尔曾警告称，美国总统唐纳德·特朗普的回归将带来“灾难”，而这些年来，他的想法从未改变。
“谈论接管格陵兰岛、巴拿马，以及驱逐加沙地带的居民——这些事情现在不能??做。
“你必须考虑人民的权利。” “这不是治理国家的方式，”他告诉《时代》杂志。
马哈蒂尔博士表示，特朗普还曾威胁吞并盟友，背着基辅与俄罗斯就乌克兰主权问题进行谈判，并发动了一场自相残杀的贸易战。
“美国过去常常谈论人权、发展之类的事情。当然，我们认为这很棒，因为美国本身曾是英国的殖民地，后来独立并成为世界强国。
“所以，我们想向他们学习。但现在，我们看到了一个新的美国，”他在采访中说道。
“我认为他（特朗普）不了解世界。他落后了100年，”马哈蒂尔博士说。
关于乌克兰冲突，他告诉《时代》杂志，这是西方“挑衅”俄罗斯的问题。
他认为，在苏联解体后，莫斯科领导的华沙条约组织解散后，北约就应该被废除。
“相反，北约决定将所有华沙条约组织国家纳入北约，与俄罗斯对抗。在乌克兰加入北约之前，俄罗斯就采取了先发制人的行动，”他说道。
在采访中，马哈蒂尔博士还回忆起2005年与俄罗斯总统弗拉基米尔·普京会面的情景，当时他刚卸任总理两年。
普京先生曾到他家做客。
“实际上，我告诉他，‘你不能来我家；从礼仪上来说，这样做是不对的’，但他坚持要来，”马哈蒂尔博士说道。
他补充说，普京先生的随行人员得知他家甚至连围墙都没有后都大吃一惊。
“为了（普京的）安全，像我这样的人没有围栏简直是不可想象的，”他笑着说道。
他补充说，他们进行了长达四个小时的会谈，普京先生很想看看马来西亚是如何从一个农业国发展成为工业国的。
“我和他谈话时，谈的是发展、增加贸易，基本上就是要淡化共产主义，利用资本主义意识形态，”马哈蒂尔博士说道。《星报》/亚洲新闻网
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You can't stop China from growing, says ex-Malaysian PM Mahathir
Former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad was scathing of American efforts to contain China's rise.
MAY 03, 2025
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/you-cant-stop-china-from-growing-says-ex-malaysian-pm-mahathir
PETALING JAYA - Former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad believes the United States is “provoking” China towards a catastrophic conflict.
In an interview with Time magazine, Tun Dr Mahathir was scathing in his criticism of American efforts to contain the rising superpower that is China.
“They are a very hard-working people, very skilful, you can’t stop them from growing.
“China will do everything to retain the market and is doing exactly what the Europeans were doing before,” he said.
Dr Mahathir went as far as to call US “freedom of navigation” sorties in the South China Sea “destabilising” and called for them to withdraw.
“Suppose China sends warships to the Caribbean and conducts (exercises) there, what would America do?
“This is not America, this is the South China Sea, this is Asia. The US is a world power, but you have to use that power judiciously, not to provoke conflicts between nations,” he said.
When asked about China’s surprise live-fire drills off New Zealand in February, Dr Mahathir was unmoved, telling Time with a winsome grin: “New Zealand is still the Far East.”
The former prime minister was interviewed in his office in Kuala Lumpur recently, and Time noted that despite being a venerable 99 years of age, he still arrived at his desk at 8.45am and rarely left before 5pm.
“I always advise people when they age, they should be active. Keep yourself busy and your brain busy. If they go to sleep, they lose their power,” he told the American news magazine.
In 2020, Dr Mahathir warned that US President Donald Trump’s return would bring “disaster” and nothing in the intervening years has changed his mind, Time said.
“Talking about taking over Greenland, Panama, and expelling people from Gaza – these kinds of things cannot be done now.
“You have to consider the rights of people. This is not the way you run countries,” he told Time.
Dr Mahathir said Mr Trump had also threatened to annex allies, bargained Ukrainian sovereignty with Russia behind Kyiv’s back, and launched an internecine trade war.
“The US used to talk about human rights, development and things like that. Of course, we thought that was great because the US itself was a British colony but became independent and a world power.
“So, we wanted to learn from them. But now, we are seeing a new United States,” he was quoted as saying in his interview.
“I don’t think he (Trump) understands the world. He’s 100 years behind the times,” Dr Mahathir said.
On the conflict in Ukraine, he told Time that it was a matter of the West “provoking” Russia.
He argued that Nato should have been abolished after the Moscow-led Warsaw Pact counter bloc was dissolved following the fall of the Soviet Union.
“Instead, Nato decided to take all the Warsaw Pact countries and join Nato and confront Russia. Before Ukraine could join Nato, Russia took pre-emptive action,” he said.
During the interview, Dr Mahathir also recalled meeting Russian President Vladimir Putin in 2005, two years after he had stepped down as prime minister for the first time.
Mr Putin had visited him at home.
“Actually, I told him, ‘You cannot come to my house; protocol-wise, it’s wrong’, but he insisted,” Dr Mahathir said.
He added that Mr Putin’s entourage had been aghast to learn that his house did not even have a perimeter wall.
“For (Putin’s) security, to have somebody like me with no fence was unthinkable,” he said with a laugh.
He added that they had a four-hour meeting and Mr Putin was interested in seeing how Malaysia managed to become industrialised from being an agro-based country.
“When I talked to him, it was about development, increasing trade, basically to be less communistic, to make use of capitalist ideology,” Dr Mahathir said. THE STAR/ASIA NEWS NETWORK
