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哈佛教授谈中国人的信仰:勇于抗争,不怕输,不屈服,

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中国人真正的信仰,国人不自知,却震惊了整个世界

大卫.查普曼教授

美国哈佛大学神学院教授大卫.查普曼,在一场讲座中,向台下近千名学生分享、解读中国神话故事,并不下十次用激情的语调总结中国神话故事的内核:中华民族特征。

在他的情绪带动下,现场氛围一直热血高涨。

讲座现场

他说:“我们的神话里,火是上帝赐予的;希腊神话里,火是普罗米修斯偷来的;而在中国的神话里,火是他们钻木取火坚韧不拔摩擦出来的!这就是区别,他们用这样的故事告诫后代,与自然作斗争!”(钻木取火)

“面对末日洪水,我们在诺亚方舟里躲避,但中国人的神话里,他们的祖先战胜了洪水,看吧,仍然是斗争,与灾难作斗争!”(大禹治水)

“如果你们去读一下中国神话,你会觉得他们的故事很不可思议,抛开故事情节,找到神话里表现的文化核心,你就会发现,只有两个字:抗争!假如有一座山挡在你的门前,你是选择搬家还是挖隧道?显而易见,搬家是最好的选择。然而在中国的故事里,他们却把山搬开了(愚公移山)!可惜,这样的精神内核,我们的神话里却不存在,我们的神话是听从神的安排。”

愚公移山

“每个国家都有太阳神的传说,在部落时代,太阳神有着绝对的权威,纵览所有太阳神的神话你会发现,只有中国人的神话里有敢于挑战太阳神的故事:有一个人因为太阳太热,就去追太阳,想要把太阳摘下来(夸父追日)。当然,最后他累死了——我听到很多人在笑,这太遗憾了,因为你们笑这个人不自量力,正是证明了你们没有挑战困难的意识。但是中国的神话里,人们把他当做英雄来传颂,因为他敢于和看起来难以战胜的力量作斗争。

在另一个故事里,他们终于把太阳射下来了(后羿射日),中国人的祖先用这样的故事告诉后代:可以输,但不能屈服。中国人听着这样的神话故事长大,勇于抗争的精神已经成为遗传基因,他们自己意识不到,但会像祖先一样坚强。因此你们现在再想到中国人倔强的不服输精神,就容易理解多了,这是他们屹立至今的原因。”

大卫教授的讲座视频被传到社交网站上后,引起国外网友热烈讨论。

“一个女孩被大海淹死了,她化作一只鸟复活,想要把海填平——这就是抗争!”(精卫填海)

“一个人因为挑战天帝的神威被砍下了头,可他没死,而是挥舞着斧子继续斗争!”(刑天)

不得不说,这位大卫.查普曼教授解读中国神话的角度很新颖,也十分到位。我们经常说中华民族几千年来是靠着不断与自然、灾难、环境作斗争才延续到现在,但有几个人想到过,中国人这种延续了几千年的斗争精神是如何保持下来的?

大禹治水

每个民族的神话都有自己的烙印,但你见过哪个民族的神话里有我们这么多战天斗地的抗争故事?

老子的“天地不仁,以万物为刍狗”,说的就是要生存就得靠自己,不能靠苍天。这比“神爱世人”听起来残酷,但非常现实。

我们从小听到大,并口口相传给下一代的这些神话故事,体现的绝不仅是故事那么简单。每个文明在初期都是有神论,但唯独我们的文明不畏惧神,也许正因为我们深刻理解老子的那句话,所以我们的祖先从不把生存的希望寄托于神的眷顾,也因此,很多人说中国人没有信仰。呵呵,没信仰的民族能存续5000年吗?

实际上,勇于抗争,不怕输,更不会服,是我们的民族精神,也是我们的信仰。

Chinese real faith, people do not know, but shocked the whole world!

2017-08-22 03:06http://www.chinaisgood.com/wn/3/xagfjmh.html?

 

 

David professor at the Harvard University divinity school. Chapman, during a lecture, to the audience of nearly a thousand students share, Chinese interpretation of myth, not ten times with passionate tone Chinese myth summary: Chinese characteristics of kernel.

 

In his emotional atmosphere has been driven by rising blood.

 

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He said: "our mythology, the fire is from God; in Greek mythology, Plo Michel J fire is stolen; and in China mythology, the fire is out of their firm and indomitable Zuanmuquhuo friction! This is the difference, they warned descendants using this story, Struggle with nature! "(Zuanmuquhuo)

 

 

"In the face of the end of flood, we took refuge in Noah's ark, but Chinese mythology, their ancestors conquered the flood, see, is still a struggle,Fight against the disaster! "(King Yu combating the flood)

 

"If you read Chinese myth, you will feel that their story is unbelievable, put aside the story, find the performance of cultural core of mythology, you will find only two words: Fight!

 

If there is a mountain in front of you, you are choosing to move or dig a tunnel? Obviously, the move is the best choice. However, in the Chinese story, they put away the mountain (great determination and courage)!

 

Unfortunately, such a spirit, our mythology does not exist, our mythology is obeying God's arrangement."

 

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"Every country has the sun god legend in the tribal era, the sun god has absolute authority, across all of the sun god myth, you will find that only Chinese mythology has dared to challenge the God of the sun: the story of a person because the sun is too hot, to catch the sun, want to take the sun off. (in pursuit of the sun).

 

Of course, he finally exhausted, I heard a lot of people laugh, this is too bad, because you laugh at this person is that you Too Big for Her Skin, no challenge consciousness.

 

But China myth, people regard him as a hero to praise, because he dared to look hard to overcome and power struggle.

 

In another story, they finally put down the sun (Hou Yi day), Chinese ancestors told generations using this story: You can lose, but cannot yield.

 

Chinese grew up listening to this myth, the courage to fight the spirit has become genetic, they are not aware of, but as strong as ancestors. So now that you are about Chinese stubborn unyielding spirit, it is easy to understand, this is the reason why they are standing still."

 

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Professor David's lecture video was posted on social networking sites, attracting foreign friends lively discussion.

 

 

"A girl from drowning, she turned into a bird life, want to fill the sea - this is a struggle!" (dogged determination)

 

 

"Because a person might be cut off the challenge of the head, but he did not die, but wielding an axe to fight!" (Borner)

 

Have to say, the professor David Chapman China interpretation of myth angle is novel, is also in place. We often say that the Chinese nation for thousands of years, and is constantly by natural disaster, environmental struggle to continue until now, but some people think, Chinese which lasted for thousands of years of struggle spirit is how to keep down?

 

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Myth of each culture has its own brand, but there are so many of us struggle story you've ever seen battle with heaven and earth in which national mythology?

 

Lao Tzu "heartless world, to all things for the straw dog", that is to survive on our own, not by the heaven. This is "love of God" sounds cruel, but very practical.

 

The Taoist classic "the West rise", "my life" chapter said: "I am in my life, do not belong to the world. I don't know as to God, not born, and with long. I and the world a rule, too sober."

 

"My life is not in my day", is one of the important doctrines of Taoism, Taoism is also acts to death war slogan for personal life with the world, are made by natural gas, if the person with the wisdom of nature through science, steal the Yin and Yang of the machine, keep order, return the roots can and way with Tianchang, fifty-four cases. The emphasis on individual life, can be self determined, not by heaven and earth master. This is a kind of life for the positive attitude, certainly the value of life.

 

"My life is not in my day", pointed out that the person's life is not decided by heaven and earth, but in our own hands, emphasizing the importance of nurture and play to people's subjective initiative. In the development of science and technology, China positive outlook on life and the correct concept of fame and protect the ecological environment and other aspects of this idea, it has a positive role. "My life is not in my day" thought is a kind of practice, a positive outlook on life.

 

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We have heard the word of mouth, and to the next generation of these myths reflect not only the story is so simple. At the beginning of each civilization is theism, but our civilization fear God, perhaps because of the words that we understand Lao Tzu, so our ancestors never live their hope in God, so many people say Chinese without faith. Oh, no belief in the nation can survive for 5000 years?

 

In fact, the courage to fight, not afraid to lose, but will not admit defeat, is the national spirit of our nation, the Chinese nation is our belief. We will carry forward the national spirit and national belief!

Chinese in the end there is no faith?

2017-10-19 05:30http://www.chinaisgood.com/wn/12/zcbiend.html?
Recently, a Harvard professor who emphasizes the belief China interpretation, who said Chinese without faith, without faith is 5000 national standing endures! Sounds very mention gas.

Harvard professor David Chapman found the core spirit of Chinese China from fairy tales, that is The courage to struggle, indomitable spirit !

He said: in our mythology, the fire is from God; and Chinese said, the fire is out of the friction! This is the difference, they warned descendants using this story, in order to survive to fight with nature (Zuanmuquhuo)!

Face the end of floods, we expect to escape or wait for God in Noah's Ark to help, but in Chinese mythology, their ancestors conquered the flood with wisdom, and the struggle (King Yu combating the flood disaster)!

If there is a mountain in front of home, we think that the best choice is to move or pray for god. However, in the Chinese story, they put away the mountain (great determination and courage)!

Have the sun god legends in many countries in the tribal era, the sun god has absolute authority, across all of the sun god myth, you will find that only Chinese mythology has dared to challenge the God of the sun: the story of a person because the sun is too hot, to catch the sun, want to take the sun off. (in pursuit of the sun).

Unfortunately, he finally exhausted... We have... People will laugh this is proof that we Too Big for Her Skin, lack of awareness of the challenge. But China myth, people regard him as a hero to praise, because he dared to look hard to overcome and power struggle.

In another story, they finally put down the sun (Hou Yi day)!

Chinese ancestors told generations using this story: in the face of difficulties can lose, but cannot yield. Chinese grew up listening to this myth, the courage to fight the spirit has become genetic, they may not realize it, but as strong as ancestors. Therefore, when we see Chinese stubborn unyielding spirit, it is easy to understand, this is the reason why they are standing still.

A girl drowned by the sea, she turned into a bird life, want to fill the sea (dogged determination)!

One of the challenges of heaven because Shenwei was cut off his head, but he did not die, but wielding an axe to fight (Borner)!

Have to say, the interpretation of the myth of the professor David Chapman China angle is novel, also very deep.

Every nation has its own national culture myth of the brand, but there are so many Chinese struggle story you've ever seen battle with heaven and earth in which national mythology?

Lao Tzu said: heartless world, to all things impartially. That is, people want to survive, not by the heaven, rely on their own. This is "love of God" sounds cruel, but this is reality.

Chinese heard growing up, and word of mouth to the next generation of these myths reflect not only the story is so simple. At the beginning of each civilization is theism, but China civilization fear God, Chinese ancestors never gave birth to hope in god.

In fact, the courage to fight, not afraid to lose, will not yield, it is Chinese national spirit, but also Chinese faith.

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Chinese mythology

 

Fake news about China's 'ighting spirit'

 

Last week an unsourced article with the headline “Harvard Professor: a national characteristic unknown even to the Chinese has kept the nation standing” went viral across China’s social media sphere. It alleged that a theology professor from Harvard called David Chapman gave a lecture eulogising China’s “unyielding” and “fighting” spirit as reflected in ancient Chinese mythology.

The well-known mythological stories quoted by the professor included Rubbing the Wood to Get Fire 钻木取火, Dayu Regulating Floods大禹治水,and Yugong Moves the Mountain愚公移山. “In our (Western) mythology, fire was given to us by God; in Greek mythology, fire was stolen by Prometheus; but in Chinese mythology, fire was created by people persistently rubbing the wood. This is the difference! They teach their descendants to fight with nature!” the professor was quoted as saying. “When facing epic flooding, we (Westerners) chose to escape on Noah’s Ark, whereas the Chinese chose to fight with the flood and control it. When you read Chinese mythology, you may be incredulous, but if you discard the plots, you will find a cultural core which is ‘fighting’. If there is a mountain blocking your house’s view, you may choose to move home. Yet the ancient Chinese chose to cut down the mountain. We lack such a spiritual core – as our mythology prefers to let God arrange everything. Since the Chinese grow up with these kind of stories, with the ‘fighting spirit’ imbued in their DNA – even though they may not realise it – they can be as tough as their ancestors. Therefore, it’s no surprise that today’s Chinese inherited the unyielding spirit and today’s China is still standing high.”

After echoing the professor’s “passionate” preaching, the article concluded with this defiant paragraph: “Every civilisation began with theism, but only our civilisation is not afraid of God. Our ancestors never put their survival in the hands of God. Many people say the Chinese have no spiritual belief, but how can a nation last for 5,000 years if it doesn’t have spiritual belief? In fact, ‘dare to fight’ and ‘unyielding’ are both our national characters and our spiritual belief.”

The article went viral on both Sina Weibo and WeChat and I read it from reposts by multiple friends, including one of my university professors. Most people liked the story for its “inspiring theme”, which goes perfectly with Xi Jinping’s ‘China Dream’ concept with an emphasis on a national rejuvenation of the economy, the military and promoting “soft power”.

But I pointed out to a friend that it seems such “fighting spirit” had only been directed to the natural world and not toward the brutal rule of man which stipulates, “If the Emperor orders you to die, you won’t dare not to die”. My big question was this: was this fighting spirit the reason that China could survive largely uninterrupted for 5,000 years or was tolerance and endurance the reason?

I also got suspicious about the authenticity of the speech, especially when I read that “the audience was ‘hot-blooded’ and ‘high-spirited’ all through the lecture”. That doesn’t sound like a Harvard audience. I went ahead to look up Harvard Divinity School’s faculty list and couldn’t find any David Chapman. I Googled the name and found the only famous David Chapman is the American who killed John Lennon.

Later I found out on a weibo page that the picture of the so-called Harvard theology professor is actually MIT professor Richard Larson giving a lecture in Chongqing in 2014.

And the so-called “American students’ enthusiastic comments – one example is “Suddenly I admire the Chinese” – were also fabricated. So who created this fake news (and why)? Is it another demonstration of China’s conflicted national psyche which displays signs of both superiority and inferiority (see WiC367 for more discussion on this topic)? What’s evident is that it fooled a lot of people.

A native Chinese who grew up in northeastern China, Mei attended an elite university in Beijing in the late 1980s and graduate school in the US in the early 1990s. Over two decades she has worked in the US, Hong Kong and mainland China, both in the media and with two global investment banks, where she has honed her bicultural perspective. If you’d like to ask her a question, send her an email at askmei@weekinchina.com

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