不明则问：
先问这几个问题。估计每一个后面都会有后续问题的。战线拉太长了不好handle。
Q1：什么是“原罪”？为什么我们会被认为有“原罪”？
Q2："Christian have a whole different mind set"---how different? And why?
Q3：为什么基督教会和教徒要不遗余力的攻击“进化论”？
谢谢！
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yesIbelieve：
I think to understand Christinality, the most fundamental questions are do you believe Jesus, do you believe he is God? There are too much into this question, I am refer you to a book: the case for Christ by Lee Strobel, he is a Jornalist graduated from Yale law school, the book describe his investigation on the identity for Jesus, he started trying to prove Jesus was an illusion, ended up with the believe that Jesus is the Christ. You can buy the book on line, here is the link:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0310209307/bookstorenow57-20
If you do not believe there is a God, and Jesus is the God, then discussions about christianality became a philosophical debate. I feel that is meaningless. The reason being Christian believe the bible, and there is a holy spirit guided the writing and assembly of the bible, so they are God's word even though He used human hand to finish the work. The teaching of the bible is either God's word or nothing at all. If Jesus is a lie, why should we believe anything the bible says?
For now I will just give you a very brief answer to your question:
1. The orginainal sin is also called "genesis chapter three problem". In genesis Chapter three, the serpent deceived Eve, and Adam, lead them to eat the fruit on the tree of knowledge. This is a sin because God had told them do not eat those fruits. As children of Adam and Eve, we are all sinful--- we all tend to dosobey God.
2. Because Christian believe after leave this earth, we are going to live in the new heavan and new earth with God, life in this earth is only a very small part. Just as we think give children little bit tough time will do children good, we look the life on this earth the same way. Tough times are supposed to lead us grow stronger spiritually.
3. The answer to the third question may vary with different Christian groups. Some people take the old testment word by word, some people think the old testment is meant to be a spiritual book, it deliver the idea, not necessary a factual story book. Afterall, evolution is only a theory, nobody was there to prove it, few experiments in the chemistry lab is far from prove. Alternative theory, such as intelligence design emerge in recent years. Science will progress over time, we have known very little about life at this moment. However, I live on this age, I need to decide for myself, is there God? As I read the new testment, I feel the story is very real, much more reliable than a impossible-to-prove scientific theory, so I chose to believe the former. Everyone has to make their own choices.
Feel free to contact me if you have further questions, it is nice talking to you.:)
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不明则问：
下面是我的简单回复：
首先，要相信一个事物（包括GOD之类），都应该有足够的证据。我虽然没有读过你提到的书，但我也读过不少双方（相信和反对基督教的）的书和文章。在我看来，相信一方并没有提出足够有说服力的证据。他们所提出的很多证据，是基于个人的精神体验、个人的盲目相信等等。这些，都不能作为客观证据用以服人。其它的一些证据，比如摩西分开红海之水、处女生子、耶稣行奇迹治病等等，则无法得到现代科学的证明。即使不考虑科学的证明，这类的奇迹也没能被重复而向现代人展示。
关于你对我的问题的回答：
1。先假设亚当和夏娃的故事是真的。我们首先会有一个问题：以一代祖先所犯下的“罪行”而要后辈历代作为“原罪”来背负，实在是一个非常不讲理的做法。考虑一个人类自己的例子：当年日本人在中国犯下了滔天罪行，我们中国人有要日本人的后辈代代都背负这个“原罪”么？这个宇宙的“造物者”在这点上难道连我们人类（“被造物”）都比不上么？
其次，一个如此心肠狭隘、对自己所创造的人类所犯下的一个“罪行”永远记仇的“神”，是不是太可怕、太不可思议了？为什么要我们相信这个宇宙的“造物者”（如果有的话）是如此的小器和愚昧？
当然，你会拿“神让他的亲儿子来替世人赎罪”这种说法来解释。但这个漏洞百出的说法自己就很有问题。我这里先不打算扯到那些问题上去，只想指出一点：如果这个“造物者”能原谅人类的祖先所曾经犯下的“罪行”，不就完了？不就没有必要玩那个什么“赎罪”的闹剧了吗？为什么他不肯原谅？
2。“Because Christian believe after leave this earth, we are going to live in the new heavan and new earth with God”。
不幸的是：从来没有任何人（包括基督徒）能向世人证明这个“after life”和“new heavan and new earth” 的存在。这个“相信”是没有任何事实基础的。
同时，把“现世生命”和“after life”的关系作为一种哲学/人生观，不是基督教所独有的。别的宗教也有，比如伊斯兰教。
3。“Some people take the old testment word by word, some people think the old testment is meant to be a spiritual book, it deliver the idea, not necessary a factual story book.”
那么到底谁的说法是正确的呢？基督教/天主教有几万个教派，还有许多“次教派”，看法和说法都很不相同，他们到底谁是真正理解了“上帝”的意思的呢？
“Afterall, evolution is only a theory, nobody was there to prove it, few experiments in the chemistry lab is far from prove. ”
请告诉我，现代科学中，哪一个领域的理论不是“only a theory”？进化论和它们有什么不同而要遭受基督教/天主教徒的凶狠攻击？
现代进化论是有非常大量的科学证据所支持的。绝对不仅仅是“few experiments in the chemistry lab” 那么简单。这些证据出自于很多学科和领域，比如：分子生物学、古生物学、考古学、地质学、物理、化学、等等。
“Alternative theory, such as intelligence design emerge in recent years.”
说到“intelligence design”（智能设计论），这不过是一些搞科学的人在无法/没有看到科学答案时对宗教的投降的产物。这些理论除了举出一大堆事例来宣称没法用科学的办法来解释，只能用“上帝”来解释以外，什么有用的都没说。这样的“理论”，一言以庇之，实际上就是“科学无用论”的不同版本而已。跟当初的“读书无用论”一样糟糕，而危害还更大---因为它们要阻挡的是全人类的思想前进的步伐。当然，只是“螳臂挡车”而已。
“As I read the new testment, I feel the story is very real, much more reliable than a impossible-to-prove scientific theory,”
首先，还是那句话：你读“新约”时的感觉不能成为一种“理论”的证明，因为缺乏客观证据。
其次，如果进化论是“impossible-to-prove”，请你举出例子来说明有什么其他的科学理论是“possible-to-prove”的？为什么？
谢谢你的跟帖。
你关于耶稣存在的证据并不convincing。因为他的时代的某个人的存在与否并不能证明他的真实存在。耶稣存在与不存在的证据和论战一直都在进行着。我读过双方的一些文章。他们也都列出了许多证据。看过后，还是无法相信耶稣的存在。
不过，我们原来争论的重点并非是耶稣这个人的存在，而是基督教所宣扬的“神”的存在。这个“神”的许多行为其实并不怎么象是一个真正心胸宽大的创造之神，而象是一个小鸡肚肠的人。我的主帖里有提出几个例子。其他的还有很多。
你提到旧约中的“神”。其实，旧约中提到好些例子显示这个“神”也有许多并不光彩的地方。比如，他怂恿他的选民攻城略地，并在攻陷城池后烧杀抢掠。再比如，仅仅因为有人（出于爱护之心）触摸了“圣柜”而残杀了他们。这种种行为，实在不配一个宇宙创造者的身份和应有的胸怀。
如你一样，我也是凭记忆写的这些东西，并不保证一定记忆正确。
如果你有时间，我倒是想请你回应我在主帖中对第“1”和“3”两点的回答。谢谢！
I do not want to get into the detail today, but I say what described in the bilbe is history to me, not a religion. At about the the same period as Jesus, Alexander the great was consider a real person and his story was considered to be history. While Jesus's story, the bible have many more copies and there were more consistency amony the copies. Also Achelogical evidence suggests that what the bible described was true. Just one example, for many years, non-Vhristians questined the person who ruled the execusion of Jesus, pilot. Because the governor pilot was known to live at different time period. Only recent achelogical evidence shown the governor pilot did exist in Jesus's time as well, it was probably the son of the other pilot that people know.
Look, all these are from my memory, and I am too afraid I do not remember exactly right, that is why I suggest you go read the book.
I just want to say there are many many evidence, it all depends on if you believe ot not.
If you read the old testment, you will find God shown the Jewish people that HE is with them for many times, and right after the event, they believed that God was with them. Then they forgot...