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June 12 2025 Jean Chretien 在G7峰会

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June 12 2025 Jean Chretien 在G7峰会

"别胡闹了”:加拿大前总理让·克雷蒂安在G7峰会上敦促特朗普保持强硬但也要对话

https://calgaryherald.com/news/jean-chretien-donald-trump-g7-kananaskis

By Bill Kaufmann  Jun 12, 2025  ?BKaufmann@postmedia.com

“他总是恃强凌弱,所以遇到恃强凌弱的人时,除非你抓住他的脖子,否则别失去冷静。”

让·克雷蒂安 G7 卡尔加里大学 加拿大前总理让·克雷蒂安参加了一场关于2025年6月12日即将在卡纳纳斯基斯举行的G7峰会前景的会议。此次会议由卡尔加里大学公共政策学院主办。

加拿大前总理让·克雷蒂安周四在卡尔加里表示,世界各国领导人需要在卡纳纳斯基斯七国集团峰会上,勇敢面对可能好战的美国总统唐纳德·特朗普。

然而,曾于2002年在卡纳纳斯基斯主持八国集团领导人峰会的克雷蒂安表示,尽管美国领导人对加拿大征收关税、威胁其主权,并在洛杉矶对美国动用军队,但特朗普应该被允许入境。

“我们是文明国家,我们可以与任何人对话——抵制领导人无济于事,对话才能解决问题。”克雷蒂安在卡尔加里大学举行的七国集团峰会会议上发言后表示。

但与此同时,克雷蒂安表示,不能让特朗普可能反复无常的行为影响或动摇为期三天、在卡尔加里以西一小时车程、戒备森严的卡纳纳斯基斯村举行的会议的基调。

“如果他决定上新闻,就会说些疯狂的话,所以让他去吧……你改变不了这家伙,他一辈子都是这样,”他说。

“他喜欢恃强凌弱,所以遇到恃强凌弱的人时,除非你抓住他的脖子,否则别失去冷静。”

克雷蒂安表示,他给特朗普的建议是,不要再谈论试图通过经济压力来吞并加拿大。

“老子说老子,别再胡说八道了,”他说。

他指出,特朗普在2018年魁北克省夏洛瓦举行的七国集团峰会上怒气冲冲地离开,要求他的官员不要签署最后公报,并侮辱了时任总理贾斯汀·特鲁多。

克雷蒂安称赞卡尼处理与美国关系的方式。

但克雷蒂安表示,他相信2025年世博会将圆满结束,东道主加拿大将一如既往地扮演务实的调解人角色,解决问题。

这位前自由党总理表示:“(马克·卡尼总理)处理得很好,我们这次很幸运(有他)。”

“人们会看到议程相当不错,我们必须忘掉(特朗普)的作秀,我们必须停止那些关于(美国)脱离欧盟并(自己)生产一切的胡言乱语。”

许多加拿大人认为,即使从外交角度来看不现实,被定罪的重罪犯特朗普也不应该被允许入境。

前安大略省新民主党议员查理·安格斯一直直言不讳地批评特朗普,本周早些时候他表示,他同情特朗普的立场,理由包括美国总统与俄罗斯总统关系密切等。

“卡尼总理正在欢迎弗拉基米尔·普京的傀儡,他将在(七国集团)的关键谈判中占据最佳席位,”安格斯说道。

“我们知道唐纳德·特朗普会处处破坏我们。”

此次年度峰会汇集了加拿大、美国、英国、法国、意大利、德国、日本以及欧盟的领导人。

澳大利亚、墨西哥、印度、南非、巴西和乌克兰的领导人也受邀出席。乌克兰与俄罗斯的战争是此次峰会的核心议题之一,代表们正在努力解决向陷入困境的保卫者提供援助以及对莫斯科实施进一步制裁的问题。

据彭博社报道,印尼总统普拉博沃·苏比安托也受邀出席,但他拒绝出席,选择在本周晚些时候与俄罗斯总统普京会面。

此次年度峰会将于6月15日至17日举行,其他议题包括经济稳定、和平与安全、气候变化以及科技发展。

克雷蒂安回忆起2002年他在卡纳纳斯基斯主办的八国集团峰会,并指出峰会最初计划在渥太华举行。他表示,选择卡纳纳斯基斯是因为那里更容易安保,尤其是在9/11恐怖袭击发生几个月后。

“我们不得不杀死一只熊,有人在做爱,但会议非常和平,成本不高,而且相当成功,”他说。

“我很高兴他们这次选择了同样的地点,那里是个好地方。”

让·克雷蒂安 约翰·曼利 G7 加拿大前总理让·克雷蒂安(左)和前副总理约翰·曼利在一场关于即将举行的 G7 卡纳纳斯基斯峰会前景的会议上交谈。会议于 2025 年 6 月 12 日在卡尔加里大学举行。Gavin Young/Postmedia

前总理回顾早年与俄罗斯总统的对话

克雷蒂安还回忆起自己担任总理后与俄罗斯总统普京的谈话,当时他们讨论了莫斯科经常听到的关于其后来为何发动核试验的立场。

2022年在乌克兰爆发全面战争。

他说,普京明确表示了他对北约涉足前苏联部分地区的担忧。

“(普京说)这太过分了,让人感到不安……我讨论了一个半小时,”克雷蒂安说。

“我们讨论了俄罗斯成为欧洲一部分的问题,但我们搞砸了——这个想法本来可以有所进展。”

2014年,莫斯科占领了乌克兰的克里米亚,并在该国东部的武装冲突中支持分裂分子,俄罗斯因此被踢出了八国集团。

尽管克雷蒂安称乌克兰战争是一场“毫无结果”的冲突,但他坚持认为必须与莫斯科进行对话。
“谈判总是好的,你不能对任何问题都摆出一副高高在上的样子。我们不再和(俄罗斯人)对话了,”这位前总理说。

乌克兰与俄罗斯近期就停火达成的谈判除了促成战俘交换外,几乎没有取得任何进展。

前总理乔·克拉克也出席了此次会议,他表示,卡尼已经证明自己比大多数人更有能力与特朗普打交道,但这在聚光灯下尤其明显。

克拉克在谈到上个月两人在椭圆形办公室的会面时表示:“我还没见过哪位领导人能比(卡尼)在会晤期间更成功地与特朗普总统沟通。”

克拉克说:“当特朗普远离镜头时,我们就能与他取得进展。”

关于特朗普出席七国集团峰会,约翰·霍普金斯大学的一位学者表示,总统的干扰也有一线希望,加拿大似乎渴望应对这一问题,这是积极的一面。

“我必须赞扬唐纳德·特朗普——他引起了我们的注意,但他需要做的是将这种关注转化为领导力。”该大学加拿大研究中心主任克里斯托弗·桑兹博士说。

“当人们扔东西,还说要占领我们的房子时,我从卡尼那里听到了谈判的意愿。除非我们努力抓住这些机会,否则什么也做不了。”

'Stop that nonsense': Former PM Jean Chretien urges firmness but dialogue with Donald Trump at G7

https://calgaryherald.com/news/jean-chretien-donald-trump-g7-kananaskis

'He tends to be a bully, so don't lose your cool when you have a bully unless you grab him by the neck'

By Bill Kaufmann  Jun 12, 2025  ?BKaufmann@postmedia.com
 
Jean Chretien G7 University of CalgaryFormer prime minister of Canada Jean Chretien takes part in a conference on prospects for the upcoming G7 Kananaskis summit on June 12, 2025. The conference was presented by the University of Calgary School of Public Policy. Gavin Young/Postmedia
 
World leaders need to stand up to a potentially belligerent U.S President Donald Trump at the Kananaskis G7, former Canadian prime minister Jean Chretien said in Calgary on Thursday.
But Chretien, who hosted the G8 leaders’ summit at Kananaskis in 2002, said despite the U.S. leader’s tariffs and sovereignty threats against Canada and his use of troops against Americans in Los Angeles, Trump should be allowed into the country.

“We’re civilized, we’re able to talk to anybody — boycotting leaders nowhere, dialogue solves problem,” Chretien said after speaking at a conference on the G7 held at the University of Calgary.

But at the same time, Chretien said Trump’s possibly volatile behaviour can’t be allowed to set or shake the tone of the three-day meeting in a massively secured Kananaskis Village an hour west of Calgary.
 
“If he’s decided to be in the news, he’ll say something crazy, so let him . . . you don’t change the guy, he’s been like that all his life,” he said.
 
“He tends to be a bully, so don’t lose your cool when you have a bully unless you grab him by the neck.”
 
Chretien said the advice he’d provide Trump is to give up talk of trying to acquire Canada through economic pressure.
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“From an old man to an old man, stop that nonsense,” he said.

He noted Trump had left the 2018 G7 in Charlevoix, Que., in a huff, demanding his officials not sign the final communique and insulting then-prime minister Justin Trudeau.
 
Chretien praises Carney’s handling of relationship with U.S.
 
But Chretien said he’s confident the 2025 edition will end successfully with the host Canada playing its usual role as practical facilitator to resolve problems.
 
“(Prime Minister Mark Carney) is handling it well, we’re very lucky at this time (to have him),” said the former Liberal PM.
 
“People will see the agenda is quite good, we have to forget about the (Trump) show, we have to stop that nonsense about the (U.S.) breaking away and producing everything (themselves).”
 
Many Canadians believe convicted felon Trump shouldn’t be allowed into the country, even if that’s diplomatically unrealistic.
 
Former Ontario NDP MP Charlie Angus, who’s been an outspoken critic of Trump, said earlier this week he sympathizes with that stance, citing the U.S. president’s closeness with Russia’s president, among other reasons.
 
“Prime Minister Carney is welcoming in Vladimir Putin’s sock puppet who’ll have the best seat in the key negotiations in (the G7),” said Angus.
 
“We know Donald Trump is there to undermine us at every step of the way.”
 
The annual summit brings together the leaders of Canada, the U.S., U.K., France, Italy, Germany and Japan as well as the European Union.
 
Also invited to attend are the leaders of Australia, Mexico, India, South Africa, Brazil and Ukraine, the latter country’s war with Russia one of the summit’s central issues with delegates grappling with extending aid to the embattled defenders and further sanctions on Moscow.
 
Indonesia’s President Prabowo Subianto was also invited but has declined to attend, opting to meet with Russian President Putin later in the week, according to Bloomberg News.
 
Other issues at the annual confab that runs from June 15-17 will be economic stability, peace and security, climate change and technology.
 
Chretien reminisced about the 2002 G8 he hosted at Kananaskis, noting it was initially planned to take place in Ottawa. He said he opted for Kananaskis because it was easier to secure, particularly months after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
 
“We had to kill a bear and someone was mooning but it was very peaceful, not too costly and quite a success,” he said.
“I’m happy they selected the same site for this one, it’s a good place to be.”
 
Jean Chretien John Manley G7Former prime minister of Canada Jean Chretien, left, and former deputy prime minister John Manley chat during a conference on prospects for the upcoming G7 Kananaskis summit. The conference took place at the University of Calgary on June 12, 2025. Gavin Young/Postmedia
 
Former PM reflects on earlier conversations with Russian president
 
Chretien also recalled speaking with Russia’s Putin after he was PM, when they discussed Moscow often-heard stance on why it later launched its full-scale war in Ukraine in 2022.
 
He said Putin made it clear his concern about NATO’s perceived encroachment on parts of the former Soviet Union.
 
“(Putin said) that was too close for comfort . . . I discussed that for one-and-a-half hours,” said Chretien.
 
“We discussed Russia being part of Europe but we dropped the ball — it was an idea that could have gone somewhere.”
 
Russia was kicked out of the G8 in 2014 after Moscow grabbed Ukraine’s Crimea and backed separatists in an armed conflict in the eastern part of that country.
While Chretien called the war in Ukraine a conflict that’s “leading nowhere,” he insisted there must be a dialogue with Moscow.

“It’s always good to talk, you can’t go on your high horse with any problem. We don’t talk to (the Russians) anymore,” said the former PM.

Recent negotiations between Ukraine and Russia on reaching a ceasefire have made little progress, other than leading to PoW swaps.

Carney’s already shown he’s more capable than far most in dealing with Trump but that’s most true out of the spotlight, said former Prime Minister Joe Clark who also at the conference.

“I haven’t seen any other leader who’s approached President Trump more successfully than (Carney) did during their meeting,” said Clark of the oval office meeting between the two last month.

“One would make progress progress with Trump when he’s away from the cameras,” said Clark.
 
On the presence of Trump at the G7, a Johns Hopkins University academic said there’s a silver lining to the president’s disruptions and that it’s positive that Canada seems eager to confront that.
 
“I have to give Donald Trump credit — he’s gotten our attention but what he has to do is transfer that into leadership,” said Dr. Christopher Sands, director of the university’s Center for Canadian Studies.
 
“When people are throwing things and talking about taking over our house, I’m hearing from Carney a willingness to talk. Nothing will get done unless we work on these opportunities.”
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