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制裁俄罗斯:欧洲受到的打击是否比俄罗斯更严重?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCA7Kf-NY9k
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他们把所有这些钱都捐给了乌克兰战争,这可不好,你应该去看看,你觉得英国的物价上涨了吗?制裁对我们的影响比对俄罗斯的影响更大吗?制裁对英国产生了影响,毫无疑问,房租价格上涨了,所有商品价格都上涨了,这对我们这里来说是个问题,这很困难,这让生活变得更加艰难,让我个人的生活变得更加艰难,我说不上来这对俄罗斯有多大影响,我不知道在当今时代,要真正了解别人国家的真相是非常困难的,有太多的虚假信息,我认为我们必须接受它对我们产生了影响,但我认为在俄罗斯,他们会遭受严重的损失,他们没有必要,没有理由增加居住场所的数量,是的,是的,就是他拿着那个钥匙,拿着天然气和汽油,不管他们拿着什么钥匙,让这里的人们受苦,这不是很好,这不是很好,你应该去,我不知道俄罗斯的情况,但我想普京在某种程度上保护了俄罗斯,所以嗯,你知道,在不了解太多的情况下,我会认为英国比俄罗斯更糟糕,嗯,是的,我个人对价格上涨的看法是,这很糟糕,物价已经这么贵了,通货膨胀,经济中发生的一般事情,然后我们就把钱扔进去,扔进内战,这只会让事情变得更糟,所以是的,不是不开心,我不能,我不能判断,没有评论,不能判断,好吧,不,这一切都是注定的,注定会在疫情之后发生,你知道,这不一定与俄罗斯有关,俄罗斯工业在非洲和欧洲有很多土地共产主义结束后,许多东欧制造商因为非盈利或找不到足够的市场而关闭,但现在,大多数东欧国家都有机会重新开始生产并赚取利润,不一定一切都需要来自俄罗斯,

需要是俄罗斯,呃呃,与乌克兰战争的关系,我可能比俄罗斯少,嗯,我的意思是,我不是专家,但我认为俄罗斯经济肯定表现更糟,但我想说,嗯,说这里的价格上涨是因为战争,

这是政府喜欢用来摆脱经济问题困扰的借口,他们付出了代价,我完全不知道他们是汽油价格还是一般的生活成本,比如生活成本

嗯,我认为俄罗斯人可能正在经历一段艰难的时期,俄罗斯的一般俄罗斯民众也在经历一段艰难的时期,嗯,我不知道这是否对我们的影响比他们更大,我们住在伦敦,那里有世界上最受打击的人,他们没有受苦从这个意义上讲,社会上最穷的人
最终会遭受最严重的生活成本损失,任何经济危机,富人都不会变得更穷,嗯,真的很难说,我的意思是有很多因素在起作用,包括可怕的保守党政府,是的,你为什么这么认为,因为我们面临着生活成本危机,天然气价格上涨,电费上涨,人们买不起,他们没有去食物银行,如果买不起,就不得不关掉暖气,他们把所有的钱都捐给了乌克兰的战争,而俄罗斯人民对俄罗斯和乌克兰到底发生了什么一无所知,他们似乎认为这是好的,但很多人根本不知道发生了什么,上帝知道我不知道,我不够聪明,不知道这些事情,我不知道,这显然对俄罗斯来说不是理想的,但我
认为他们会挺过去的,我认为普京一直在坚持一个特殊的军事行动证明制裁可能还不够,我认为他达成了一项协议,他最近实际上与印度总理举行了会议,中国采取了中立立场,所以我认为他仍然可以与他们进行贸易,他们显然是两个大国,所以我认为从经济上讲,他们可能会经受住考验,我不确定他是否真的在乎,你知道,任何依靠石油资助的国家都会遇到这样的问题,那就是你基本上可以促进经济发展,但实际上并没有为人民创造任何生产力,比如实际增加工作效率,所以我认为这对他们造成了沉重打击,但可能没有做他们应该做的事情,我真的不知道,说实话,汽油有一段时间很糟糕,但我觉得它现在已经缓和了,是的,我对此了解不多,说实话,没有评论,我认为从长远来看,这对俄罗斯人民来说会非常糟糕,但不是那么多,我的意思是俄罗斯可能仍会增加他们的硬实力或军事力量,因为他们可能拥有最大的比如世界上的硬实力体系,包括所有军事人员、坦克和一切,但我认为对于俄罗斯人民来说,情况肯定会变得更糟,因为有这样的独裁者,我的意思是,他肯定表明他不在乎人民,他所关心的只是增加他的军事力量和他在整个欧洲的统治,是的,嗯,当然,如果我觉得他得到了什么,就像俄罗斯从中获益一样,如果说我们失去了什么,你知道,每个人的生活都变得越来越艰难,生活成本将永远是一个问题,他们现在才刚刚引入它,但它一直是一个问题,所以比俄罗斯更甚,不,我不认为是这样,我不认为他们对我们的影响比俄罗斯更大,但你是否感觉到制裁的影响,是的,价格上涨,我的意思是是的,但我不知道
这是否专门针对俄罗斯
或者我们已经走出了疫情,
生命也在增加,嗯,我认为
这是一个世界性的问题,嗯,我们只是需要看看
一切,重新调整和
思考事情,是的,当然它影响了
我们,但我们需要重新思考,我们不能只依赖某些国家,是的,
最糟糕的是,现在他真的没有逃生的
地方,就像
他现在基本上是一个战犯,所以不,他不可能真的回去
然后真正民主地当选,或者像他这样
只是他必须继续做他正在做的事情,嗯,是的,你刚才说的
我认为最可悲的事情之一是
现在所有国家可能
都必须扩大他们的军队,
我个人反对大
军费开支,所以我认为这很可悲
现在就像是的军事预算可能会增加,而且我认为这在俄罗斯是一个非常有争议的问题,因为我有俄罗斯朋友,我记得他们说,他们的祖母就像巴布什卡一样,他们仍然是普京的忠实粉丝,嗯,你知道,我认为这就像代沟,就像老年人已经非常固定了他们的方式,而年轻人则非常沮丧,我认为这太过分了,你知道,太多了,就 MoneyWise 而言,你要支付两倍的费用,比如过去 50 便士,现在是 100 便士,100 便士,你知道我无法判断这一点,但我确实认为生活成本的上升帮助我们理解了我们必须如何摆脱对石油的依赖,我认为生活成本的大幅上涨是我们离开我认为欧盟已经影响到了我们,我认为人们很难理解物价上涨对俄罗斯人民的影响有多大,我不知道石油等物价上涨对生活成本危机的影响有多大,我很难说我没有去过俄罗斯,至少从我所看到的情况来看,任何来自俄罗斯的媒体都没有偏见,我认为俄罗斯永远不会成为可靠的能源,而且这种事情总是不可避免的,嗯,这不是真的问你的问题,所以不,我不这么认为,我认为俄罗斯比我们更有效,然后你的个人经历,你觉得受到了影响,是的,不,我认为一切都上涨了,我觉得现在很难看到一家商店的销售额超过 10 美元,所以它只是一些小东西,比如你肯定会注意到,呃,不会比他们影响的更多,我不认为你可以比较这两个,因为这是两个不同的,非常不同,但我确实认为这对大多数人、家庭等都有很大的影响,但你认为谁比他们在俄罗斯那边更糟糕,我不认为我们对生命的恐惧和那里一样多,我对此了解不够,无法回答这个问题,我的意思是,能源危机、供暖和冬天的所有这类事情都是任何人都可以谈论的,但公平地说,我不知道制裁对俄罗斯的影响有多大,反过来说,我不得不承认,如果我真的认真地想想,是的,英国的战争,我不会称之为战争,对乌克兰的攻击对世界经济有直接影响,所以我认为这本身就是一个问题,如果你考虑到事实上,我们刚刚走出疫情,很多公司都遭受了损失,所以我认为还有很多其他因素,这些因素可能造成我们目前处于困境,不仅仅是俄罗斯,但我认为他们确实发挥了重要作用,我们可以制造自己的磷,我们自己的化学品来给土地施肥,是的,乌克兰很大一部分被征服,没有生产,但还有其他国家可以维持这种局面,例如巴西、美国、法国、西班牙、埃及,很多国家可以维持世界,不一定是这样,是的,全球一直都有战争,但在疫情之后,很多呃
制造商已经关闭,所以这是
价格上涨和
通货膨胀的另一个联系,不一定是一切
都与俄罗斯与乌克兰的战争有关
是的

制裁俄羅斯:歐洲受到的影響是否比俄羅斯更嚴重?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCA7Kf-NY9k
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they're giving all this money away to
the war in Ukraine that's not nice you
should go to do you think of the price increase in
the UK did the sanctions affect us more
than they did in Russia well the sanctions have affect the UK there's no
doubt about that rent prices have gone
up prices and all Goods have gone up and that's problematic for us here
and it's difficult it makes life harder
made life personally harder for me I
can't say how hard it's affect Russia or
not I don't know it's very difficult in
this day age to to really know truth
about someone else's country so much
disinformation I think that it's something that we've just got
to accept that it has affected us but I think within 
Russia they will be suffering badly and
they have no need there's no reason to
increasing the places in the living
places yeah yeah that's that's he hold
put he hold that key for the gas and the
petrol whatever they hold the key make
people suffering in here that's not nice
that's not nice you should go to h i I
don't know the situation in Russia but
um I imagine Putin's have protected
Russia to some extent so um I you know
without knowing much I would assume that
the UK is worse off than Russia um and
yeah my personal opinion on the price
increase is that it sucks uh prices are
already so expensive uh with inflation
and just general General things going on
in the economy and then we just Chuck in
Chuck in a civil war it just makes
things a lot worse so yeah not not not
happy I can't I can't judge no comment
can't judge okay no it's all it meant to
it meant to happen after covid you know
it's not really NE necessarily related
to the Russian Uh Russian industry there's plenty of land in Africa in
Europe after communism a lot of Eastern block manufacturers got shut
down because of nonprofit or they didn't
find enough markets but now it's opportunity for most of the Eastern
European countries to to start producing
again and uh make profit not necessarily
everything needs to come from Russia it
needs to be a Russian uh uh relation to
the war in Ukraine I would probably less
than Russia um I mean I I'm not an expert but I think the Russian economy
is certainly doing worse but I would say
that um saying that you know the price
increases here are because of the war is
an excuse that the government likes to
use to get out of trouble for the problems economic problems that they've
cost I have absolutely no idea uh were
they gas prices or just that general
cost of living like yeah cost of living
um I think the Russians are probably
going through a hard time the Russian
general Russian population are also
going through a hard time um I I don't
know if it's affected us more than them
we're living in London which has got
some of the most affer people in the
world and they don't suffering from this
it's it's always the poorest of society
who end up suffering the most during
this cost of living well any kind of
Crisis financially and the rich don't
get any poorer um hard to say really um
I mean there's so many things at at play
including a dread Dreadful Tory
government yes why do you think so
because we've got this cost of living
crisis where the gas going up the
electric going up people can't afford it
they haven't go to food banks having to
keep the heating off if they can't afford it and they're giving all this
money away to the war in Ukraine and the Russian people are kept
in the dark from what I can understand about what is actually going
on in Russia to Ukraine they seem to
think it's yeah it's fine but a lot of
them they have no idea what's going on
God knows I don't know I'm not clever
enough to know that stuff I I don't it's
obviously not ideal for Russia but I
think they will weather it and I think
the fact Putin's just kept going with a
special military operation is evidence
that the sanctions probably aren't enough I I think he made a deal he
actually had a meeting with like India's
prime minister really recently and China
taking a neutral stance so I think he'll
still be able to trade with them and
they're obviously two massive countries
so I think econom ially they'll be they
they will probably weather it and I'm
not sure he really cares you know like
that's the problem with any country
that's just sort of oil funded is you
can basically um just like boost an
economy without actually producing any
productivity for the people like
actually increasing work of productivity
uh so I think it is hitting them hard
but probably not not doing what it needs
to I don't really know to be honest petrol was bad for a while
but I feel like it's mellowed now yeah I
don't know enough about about that to be
honest no comment I think in the long
term it's going to be quite bad for for
just like the Russian people not so much
I mean Russia will probably still increase their like hard
powers or their military because they
have probably one of the biggest like
hard power um systems in the world with
all the military personnel and the and the tanks and you know
everything but I think for the Russian
people it's definitely going to get a
lot worse cuz with a dictator like that
they I mean he's definitely shown he
doesn't care about the people all he
cares about is just increasing his
military power and his um uh domination
across Europe yeah uh definitely um if
anything I feel like he's gaining it's
like Russia gaining from this if
anything we're losing you know um life's
only getting harder for everyone
and cost of living that's going to be a
problem forever now they've only just
introduced it now but it's been an issue
so more than Russ no I don't think so I don't think
they've affected us more than Russia but you've have you felt impacted
by the sanctions yeah by the price
increase I mean yeah but I wouldn't know
if that's specifically to do just Russia
or out we've come out of the pandemic as
well increase in just life um I think
it's a worldwide thing um we just sort need to look at
everything and sort of readjust and
rethink things and yes of course it has affected
us but we need to rethink we can't just
rely on certain countries and yeah and
the worst thing is now he doesn't really
have like an escape an escape pad like
he's basically a war criminal now so no
it's not like he can really go go back
on this and actually get elected
democratically or anything like he's
just he's going to just have to keep
doing what he's doing um and yeah what what you were saying
like one of the saddest things I think
is now all countries are probably going
to have to expand their militaries a bit
and personally I'm against like big
military spending so I think it's sad
that now just like yeah military
budget's probably going to go up and
also I think it's like a very divisive
issue in Russia like because I have
Russian friends and I remember they
saying like their grandmas they're like
Babushka saying like they're still B
massive fan of Putin and and um you know
I think it's like a generational Gap
right like where the old people have
very setting their ways and the young
people are just so frustrated I think
it's pretty it's a oh too much you
know uh too much in terms of what
MoneyWise and you're paying twice
what something like 50p for like past
now 100 P 100 P you know I wouldn't be
able to judge on that but I certainly
think the rise in the cost of living has
helped us understand how we've got to
get away from Reliance on oil and I
think the greater rise in the cost of
living has been our leaving the European
Union I think they have affected us and
I think it's it's difficult for people
with prices going up how much they've
affected people in Russia I don't as in
increasing like oil and stuff like that
the cost of living crisis effectively I
it's hard to say I'm not out in Russia
and it's kind of hard to like for me at
least from what I've seen to kind of see
any media come out of Russia that's not
kind of have a biased some way I think o is is never going to be a
reliable source of power anyway and
something like this is always inevitable
um that's not really ask your question
so no I don't think so I think I think
russer is more effective than than we
are and then your personal experience
you feel affected by it yeah yeah no
definitely I think everything's gone up
I feel like it's kind of hard to see a
shop now that go over like 10 so it's
just stuff small stuff like that you
notice for sure uh not more than they're
affecting I don't think that you can
compare the two cuz it's two different
very different like but I do think that
it's a big impact on most people
families Etc but do you think who wor s
than they are over there in Russia I
don't think I don't think we're fearing
life as much as there I don't know
enough about that to answer that I mean
the
energy crisis and heating and all that
kind of stuff in winter is all that
anyone can talk about but um to be fair
I don't know how badly the sanctions
have affected Russia going the other way
I have to admit that um if I think about
it really and truly um yes the war in UK the I w't call it a
war the attacking into Ukraine has a direct
impact on um um on the world economy and
um so I think that in itself was an
issue um also if you consider the fact
that we just came out of covid a lot of
companies suffered so there are loads of
other factors I think that could um play
uh um into the reasons why we are we we
are at the moment not just um the Russia
but I think they do play big factor
there we can make we can make our own
phosphor our our own chemicals to
fertilize the land and yes it's a big
portion of Ukraine that is conquered and
is not producing but there is other
countries that can they can sustain that
Brazil for example United States of
America France Spain uh Egypt plenty of countri that can sustain the
world not necessarily that yes it's it's
always been Wars around the around the
glob but after covid a lot of uh
manufacturers have shut down so that's
another link to the price increase and
the inflation not necessarily everything
has to do with Russia fighting Ukraine
yes

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无法弄 回复 悄悄话 我感觉英国物价还可以,但我确实不能代表很多英国人,我工作的地方,很多英国人很穷,靠食物银行生活,他们基本上不是原著英国人,都是移民。电、煤费用有些高,对穷人来说可以申请补助,申请蔬菜水果的票证,还有各种补助,比如会有帮他们免费修冰箱、洗衣机什么的。所以乌俄战争对穷人的变化不大,对中产变化大,因为中产没有补助,只有付出,富人就不要说了,那点钱不值一提。本人觉得还是要支持乌克兰,靠一己之力肯定不行,要靠民主国家一起来,因为如果靠牺牲一个主权国家赢得片刻的和平,这不会长久,这会助长侵略国越来越嚣张,2014年克里米亚失陷,民主国家没有进行实质的制裁,导致了今天的乌俄战争。
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