The clash betw/ individualism (West) and collectivism (East)

Several themes emerged: The clash betw/ individualism (West) and collectivism (East)

Dichotomy of Western and Eastern Thinking: The text suggests a fundamental contrast between Western and Eastern ways of thinking, particularly in terms of individualism and collectivism.

The concepts of "赛先生" (exploration and conquest) and "德先生" (compromise and cooperation) symbolize different aspects of Western civilization, with the former representing expansion and the latter symbolizing compromise mechanisms.

The clash between individualism and collectivism: The idea that Western development is not solely due to the existence of the two aforementioned concepts but is dependent on the appropriate application and allocation of resources.

Misinterpretation of concepts: The misinterpretation and elevation of certain Western ideals by the Chinese elite, leading to a misunderstanding of the fundamental differences between Western and Eastern ideologies.

The concept of absolute authority: The text discusses the dangers of the misappropriation of authority and the consequences of the absolute authority of human-made principles, as opposed to the more harmonious and cohesive authority derived from a higher power or nature.

The significance of culture and its impact on political and societal ideologies.

The implications of the ongoing struggle between unity and exploration, and the potential consequences of the shift from external expansion to internal conflicts and divisions.

These themes collectively suggest an exploration of the dynamics between different cultural ideologies, the implications of power structures, and the misinterpretation of fundamental concepts, leading to potential societal conflicts and challenges.

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中国思想的平和特征与西方思想的攻击性特征都源于此
来源: stonebench 于 2023-11-02 07:25:53 [档案] [博客] [旧帖] [给我悄悄话] 本文已被阅读： 1 次 (286 bytes)
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回答: 以止平天下，以力制天下，中西内外真伪之不同也 由 stonebench 于 2023-11-02 07:05:42
中国思想以天为心，故容易自足自洽自得。

西方。。。。。。，故。。。。。。。
以止平天下，以力制天下，中西内外真伪之不同也
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预警：俺说的是思想，对比中西。这种差异在实践中有体现，但是会掺杂其他因素。

中国的思想，近代以往的，是修齐治平。远人不服则修文德以来之。

西方的思想，千载不变的，是占占占占。远人不服则用武力以攻之。

为啥会有这个差别？

世界观不同。

中国人以天为真，安于天理，则乐止于天命。

西方人以己为要，纵于私欲，唯知疲于奔波。

意思就是以私欲为驱动的文明，因为私欲永远不足，一定会不断地奔波探索。

以天理为驱动的文明，因为天道自足，一定强调知足的好处。

如开篇所说，道理如此。中西文明之不同大体也如此，若看实践，则中西 各种现象都有。
neither but the opposite: W=fear of God; E=人以天
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回答: 以止平天下，以力制天下，中西内外真伪之不同也 由 stonebench 于 2023-11-02 07:05:42
"中国人以天为真，安于天理，则乐止于天命。"[selfish the most]

西方人以己为要，纵于私欲，唯知疲于奔波。[God punishes those who are greedy, but self-righteousness is a path, fear of God]

"What does the Bible say about the fear of God?


First, fearing the Lord will give you wisdom (Psalm 111:10). Second, fearing the Lord will keep you from sin (Exodus 20:20). And third, fearing the Lord will motivate you in evangelism (2 Corinthians 5:11)."