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治愈癌症 \'cure\' cancer

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远离雄心勃勃的癌症专家-停止浪费金钱治愈癌症

已有 1629 次阅读2015-9-10 13:18|个人分类:Opinion|系统分类:观点评述 推荐到群组

Reading this hit me hard, reminding me of those I love suffering from taking cancer therapy - heart broken experience - you see how a healthy person got dying through time of "cure" process. It's about time to set up from old setback view of "cure" cancer.

 

"Writing in a blog for the BMJ, Dr Smith admitted that his view was 'romantic', but said charities should stop spending billions trying to find a cure for the disease because it was clearly the best option for an ageing population. "

 

We know no such cancer genes or bad genes. cancer is not alient, but one of us normal cousin. Cure (kill) cancer is to kill oneself, matter of time.

 

Stop ambition: Live with cancer, our cousin, our friend.

Revise our perception. Get game-changer.

 

[1]刘学武 2015-9-10 18:48现在治疗癌症的思路都是有问题的,四大治疗方法都有局限性,除非有突破,否则癌症依然误解。癌症治疗和癌症新药都是相对延长几个月的生命,带来的可能是不如不治疗更好,更多的带来痛苦。 博主回复(2015-9-11 08:58)You're right! All with limitation - leading you to think something wrong with our thinking, wrong with our research direction. Sad with reality: 癌症治疗和癌症新药都是相对延长几个月的生命,带来的可能是不如不治疗更好,更多的带来痛苦。Admitted: some patients cancer can be controlled at the level of under detection - but that's a process of recurrence/relapse - a matter of time cancer comes back. What's your insight to new breakthrough? Can you share your thought?

 

 

 

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英医学专家称“患癌是最好死法”引发争议

 
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http://www.bbc.com/zhongwen/simp/uk/2015/01/150102_life_cancer_death英医学专家称“患癌是最好死法”引发争议
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癌症病人Image caption史密斯这番对于死亡本质的评论受到英国慈善组织“癌症研究”(Cancer Research)强烈批评。

世界著名学术刊物《英国医学杂志》(British Medical Journal)前主编表示,患癌症是“最好的死法”引起争议。

医学专家理查德·史密斯(Richard Smith)认为,在生命结束之前有机会反思人生,这一点非常重要。他敦促慈善组织和医学界“不要再浪费几十亿英镑的资金试图治愈癌症”。

他在该杂志博客专栏中写道,很多人告诉他,他们更倾向于猝死,但他认为这种死亡方式对于死者家属来说是难以接受的。

史密斯得出结论称:“患癌而死是最好的死法。因为你会有时间向亲友道别、反思人生、留下遗言、甚至最后一次访问一些特别的地方,听一听自己喜欢的音乐,读一读自己热爱的诗篇,并根据自己的信仰准备去见上帝或享受长眠。”

“我承认这种死亡的方式听上去有些过于浪漫,但通过爱,吗啡和威士忌,这种死亡方式却是可以实现的。”

史密斯现年62岁,他曾在世界著名学术刊物《英国医学杂志》担任编辑13年,如今他是一家医疗科技公司的负责人。

 

他表示,“让我们远离那些雄心勃勃的肿瘤学家、停止浪费金钱治愈癌症吧!”

 

“让我们不要再浪费几十亿英镑资金去试图治愈癌症,治疗过程有可能使我们的死亡更加痛苦。”

 

史密斯这番对于死亡本质的评论受到英国慈善组织“癌症研究”(Cancer Research)强烈批评。

 

该机构首席临床医生彼得·约翰逊教授(Peter Johnson)说,“当然,我们都会面临死亡,但是癌症导致许多人死亡,而且他们死得太年轻。”

 

“我们只有开展雄心勃勃的研究,才能给人们多种选择。我们对癌症了解的越多,我们给人们的选择也就越多。”

“我的病人非常清楚,何时他们希望接受治疗,何时他们不希望接受治疗。他们更希望我雄心勃勃,不希望我采取虚无主义的态度”。

(编译/责编:路西)

我觉得他的癌症是好的死法的说法有一定道理,不同意放弃抗癌研究和治疗。 -吃与活- 给 吃与活 发送悄悄话吃与活 的博客首页吃与活 的个人群组 (0 bytes) (4 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 10:14:10

可能和猝死相比吧 -越王- 给 越王 发送悄悄话越王 的博客首页越王 的个人群组 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 10:18:43

无疾而终才是。 -舞女- 给 舞女 发送悄悄话舞女 的博客首页舞女 的个人群组 (0 bytes) (4 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 10:20:49

我刚才也想说无疾而终,但假如是没有丝毫准备的无疾而终,我觉得不算好 -越王- 给 越王 发送悄悄话越王 的博客首页越王 的个人群组 (0 bytes) (5 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 10:22:49

所有的动物都会知道自己什么时候死。其实人类 -舞女- 给 舞女 发送悄悄话舞女 的博客首页舞女 的个人群组 (206 bytes) (91 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 10:30:37

人快死的时候应该也是知道的,不过那就是很晚的时候了 -绿豆豆1- 给 绿豆豆1 发送悄悄话绿豆豆1 的个人群组 (0 bytes) (2 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 11:23:59

谢谢舞妹分享感悟, -coach1960- 给 coach1960 发送悄悄话coach1960 的博客首页coach1960 的个人群组 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 11:37:56

一般无疾而终都是老人,我两个祖母都是,95一觉没醒。这个年纪应该早安排了。 -如尘- 给 如尘 发送悄悄话如尘 的个人群组 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 10:31:22

无独有偶,此名医只想活到75岁。看他的长篇大论~~ -deja_vu- 给 deja_vu 发送悄悄话deja_vu 的博客首页deja_vu 的个人群组 (194 bytes) (59 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 10:36:17

我很同意他,也很钦佩他,就怕我到时候就留恋人间,贪生怕死,哈哈。 -deja_vu- 给 deja_vu 发送悄悄话deja_vu 的博客首页deja_vu 的个人群组 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 10:41:23

呵呵;)好日子过完了就死 -吃与活- 给 吃与活 发送悄悄话吃与活 的博客首页吃与活 的个人群组 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 10:42:05

我认识的老人都在不同程度的痴呆dementia stage,死人拖死活人。 -deja_vu- 给 deja_vu 发送悄悄话deja_vu 的博客首页deja_vu 的个人群组 (0 bytes) (1 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 10:52:15

其实死亡本身并不可怕。。 -jck66- 给 jck66 发送悄悄话jck66 的博客首页jck66 的个人群组 (281 bytes) (47 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 10:38:38

仔细听听他的论点,挺有道理的。现在连流感。肝炎都没攻克呢。癌症因为最容易引起恐慌 -lucky_rain- 给 lucky_rain 发送悄悄话lucky_rain 的个人群组 (110 bytes) (18 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 11:30:45

他这个说法有点让人类学习动物界,生老病死听天由命,自然淘汰就好。 -爱吃甜食- 给 爱吃甜食 发送悄悄话爱吃甜食 的个人群组 (0 bytes) (6 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 11:32:00

没那么极端吧。 我觉得是物极必反。过去百十年来人类有点人定胜天走得过急了。 -lucky_rain- 给 lucky_rain 发送悄悄话lucky_rain 的个人群组 (102 bytes) (15 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 11:36:48

完全同意 -Gbdjw- 给 Gbdjw 发送悄悄话Gbdjw 的个人群组 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 11:44:06

现在的人对死亡太恐惧,没有过去人的那种泰然。NPR有过多次的讨论 -Gbdjw- 给 Gbdjw 发送悄悄话Gbdjw 的个人群组 (116 bytes) (25 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 11:39:19

同意他的一些观点,癌症是死亡的一种途径,死亡是每个人的最终,只不过每个人走向这个最终的方法不同吧了 -Gbdjw- 给 Gbdjw 发送悄悄话Gbdjw 的个人群组 (0 bytes) (0 reads) 09/10/2015 postreply 11:35:09

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Cancer is the best way to die and we should stop trying to cure it, says doctorDr Richard Smith said cancer gave sufferers time to say goodbye and pain could be endured through ‘love, morphine, and whisky' .newGigyaShare { display: none !important; }

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Cancer is the best way to die because it gives sufferers the chance to say goodbye to loved ones, claims former BMJ editor Dr Richard Smith
Cancer is the best way to die because it gives sufferers the chance to say goodbye to loved ones, claims former BMJ editor Dr Richard SmithPhoto: Alamy
 
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Cancer is the best way to die because it gives people the chance to come to terms with their own mortality, the former editor of the British Medical Journal has claimed.

Dr Richard Smith, an honorary professor at the University of Warwick, said that a protracted death allowed time to say goodbye to loved ones, listen to favourite pieces or music or poetry and leave final messages.

He claimed that any pain of dying could be made bearable through ‘love, morphine, and whisky.’

Writing in a blog for the BMJ, Dr Smith admitted that his view was 'romantic', but said charities should stop spending billions trying to find a cure for the disease because it was clearly the best option for an ageing population.

However Cancer Research UK claimed his comments were ‘nihilistic’ and gave little thought to young people whose lives are cut short by the disease.

His views were also criticised by the families of sufferers who accused the doctor of insensitivity.

In his blog Dr Smith quoted the Spanish filmmaker Luis Buñuel who warned that many patients risked suffering a ‘horrible death, kept at bay by the miracles of modern medicine.’

Bunuel died of pancreatic cancer in Mexico City in 1983 but managed to spend the last week of his life discussing theology with a Jesuit brother.

“Death from cancer is the best, the closest to the death that Buñuel wanted and had,” said Dr Smith.

“You can say goodbye, reflect on your life, leave last messages, perhaps visit special places for a last time, listen to favourite pieces of music, read loved poems, and prepare, according to your beliefs, to meet your maker or enjoy eternal oblivion.

“This is, I recognise, a romantic view of dying, but it is achievable with love, morphine, and whisky.”

Dr Smith, who also worked as a TV doctor for the BBC and TV-AM for six years, is now chair of both the medical records company Patients Know Best and the International Centre for Diarrhoeal Disease Research.

He added: “I often ask audiences how they want to die, and most people chose sudden death.

“That may be OK for you,” I say, “but it may be very tough on those around you, particularly if you leave an important relationship wounded and unhealed.

“Death from organ failure—respiratory, cardiac, or kidney—will have you far too much in hospital and in the hands of doctors.

“(And) the long, slow death from dementia may be the most awful as you are slowly erased.”

Dr Smith warned people to ‘stay away from overambitious oncologists’ and said that charities should stop wasting billions trying to cure the disease and ‘potentially leaving us to die a much more horrible death.’

However Cancer Research UK said it was important to keep funding research to find cures for cancer.

Around 330,000 people are diagnosed with cancer in Britain each year according to the latest figures, and one in three people will be affected in some way by the disease.

Professor Peter Johnson, Cancer Research UK's chief clinician, said: “Of course we are all going to die, but cancer takes far too many people far too young.

“It's only by being ambitious in our research that we can give people a measure of choice, and the more we know about cancer the more we can give people options.

“My patients are very clear about when they do and when they don't want treatment, and they would much prefer me to be ambitious than nihilistic".

Readers of Dr Smith's blog also branded his comments as ‘ignorant and insensitive’

“Watching my mother rapidly ravaged by Cancer a few years ago, never ever did I think it was the best way for her or us,” wrote the daughter of one cancer victim.

“The haunting final images of her as her body finally gave up are burned into my mind and they aren't the memories I would choose.

“A chance to say goodbye? Her final weeks were made up of endless nurses visits, her anxiety and fear of how it would end, deterioration and paranoia.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/11320381/Cancer-is-the-best-way-to-die-and-we-should-stop-trying-to-cure-it-says-doctor.html

 



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删除回复[2]李胜文 2015-9-11 09:43
 
"Cure cancer" is like teaching English - 不管中国的英语教育者承不承认,中国的英语教育是失败的,就连英语培训之父,俞敏洪也感叹,我学了几十年英语,还不如我五岁的女儿。不是中国人不聪明,不是中国人不努力,人民每年投入上亿元,没有用到到正地方,没有真正找到学英语症结所在。http://t.cn/RyGJHV2
删除回复[1]刘学武 2015-9-10 18:48
 
现在治疗癌症的思路都是有问题的,四大治疗方法都有局限性,除非有突破,否则癌症依然误解。癌症治疗和癌症新药都是相对延长几个月的生命,带来的可能是不如不治疗更好,更多的带来痛苦。
博主回复(2015-9-11 08:58)You're right! All with limitation - leading you to think something wrong with our thinking, wrong with our research direction. Sad with reality: 癌症治疗和癌症新药都是相对延长几个月的生命,带来的可能是不如不治疗更好,更多的带来痛苦。Admitted: some patients cancer can be controlled at the level of under detection - but that's a process of recurrence/relapse - a matter of time cancer comes back. What's your insight to new breakthrough? Can you share your thought?
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