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学会顺服

(2012-04-08 20:03:34) 下一个

学会顺服

从小到大,我就不是一个顺服他人的人。未嫁前,我和父母对着干;出嫁后,我和老公经常翻白眼儿。无知的我一直认为,这样才酷,这样才算有个性。

读了圣经中的<<出埃及记>>之后,我对顺服二字有了一些体会。埃及人不顺服上帝,耶和华就降灾给他们,直到把他们全部消灭为止。以色列人不知道感恩,还处处抱怨,耶和华就让他们在旷野流浪多年。

我们很多中国人不信耶和华,也不理会什么埃及。不信以色列神,那我们信<<孟子>>吗?孟子在<<孟子>>书中提到,“顺天者存,逆天者亡”。孟子说的其实也是顺服,它和基督教中所言的顺服上帝,意思基本是一样的。顺从天意者存,违背天意者亡。

在很多时候,因为我们智慧有限,即使违背了上帝的旨意,也就是老百姓常说的天意,我们自己都不清楚。事事不顺时,其实就应该警醒自己了。假如逆天行事,你永远都不会顺利。因为你是不被上苍祝福的。

水往低处流,这是水对大地的顺服。引水上山虽然很酷,但那一定很辛苦。我们就像河中的流水一样,是顺势而流,还是逆流而上,我们的人生到底该怎么流淌,自己确实需要想清楚。

顺服并不是懦弱。对亲朋好友顺服,是为了更好的包容和接纳。对命运顺服,是你即使身处逆境时也不抱怨的从容。对上帝顺服,是你知道了自己的有限和不足。

无论从哪个层面上说,我确实要学会顺服。虽然我做得还远远不够,但我要慢慢努力。我相信,只有学会顺服,倒空自己的骄傲和固执,我才会得到上天更多的祝福。

3/31/12 10:55AM

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山哥 回复 悄悄话 我们很多同胞还是只认“大救星”,不认“救世主”。其实他们唱的《国际歌》也是西洋舶来品,但他们就是喜欢。

感谢陈晚姊妹的好分享。
陈晚 回复 悄悄话 回复megchen的评论:
谢谢你的思考和讨论
megchen 回复 悄悄话
I would like to thank LZ’s sharing and tolerance for all my comments in this post which had very different opinion from yours.

Human desire is the criterion of all truth and all good. Truth does not lie beyond humanity, but is one of the products of the human mind and feeling. There is really nothing to fear. I am not against any religion. I myself almost became a Christian. But after much study and reflection, I gave up. For me, following only one Holy Bible is very far from enough to guide me through my own life path. But my personal experience doesn’t mean anything to other people.

“If there is anything that links the human to the divine, it is the courage to stand by a principle when everybody else rejects it.”
― Abraham Lincoln

The above words are for both of us. I am still learning. Thanks again!
megchen 回复 悄悄话 回复jnr的评论:

"因为懂得,才会驯服..."

The fear of God is not the beginning of wisdom. The fear of God is the death of wisdom. Skepticism and doubt lead to study and investigation, and investigation is the beginning of wisdom.
eaglewings 回复 悄悄话 "倒空自己的骄傲和固执,我才会得到上天更多的祝福"
-- Amen, sister.
jnr 回复 悄悄话 因为懂得,才会驯服...
xiaoc288 回复 悄悄话 我也有同样的问题。说来容易,做来很难呀,唉~~
白雪红尘 回复 悄悄话 博主请谨记:天行健,君子自强不息。

不要太奴了。
megchen 回复 悄悄话
回复饶恕的评论:

“这就是圣经给我们的信息.”

The Bible tells us to be like God, and then on page after page it describes God as a mass murderer.

If absolute power corrupts absolutely, where does that leave God?

“The fact is that more people have been slaughtered in the name of religion than for any other single reason. That, that my friends, that is true perversion!”
― Harvey Milk
megchen 回复 悄悄话
“Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.”
― Napoleon Bonaparte

“Question with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.”
― Thomas Jefferson

“Religion is like a pair of shoes.....Find one that fits for you, but don't make me wear your shoes.”
― George Carlin
megchen 回复 悄悄话 回复饶恕的评论:

"祂所设的是铁一样的律"—???

Who will be scared? You? but I won't! Never!!!

megchen 回复 悄悄话 回复饶恕的评论:

"埃及人不顺服上帝,耶和华就降灾给他们,直到把他们全部消灭为止。以色列人不知道感恩,还处处抱怨,耶和华就让他们在旷野流浪多年".--sound like: if you don't listen to me, then I will punish you. Not sure about your logic!

全部消灭 and 旷野流浪...sounds like another Mao!!!

It's very different with "妈妈告诉你火会烫手,是不是threatenning? 你如果不听从妈妈的话去触摸火焰的结果是什么?"
逍遥萍聚 回复 悄悄话 同感!共同学习顺服的功课。
饶恕 回复 悄悄话 回复megchen的评论:

妈妈告诉你火会烫手,是不是threatenning? 你如果不听从妈妈的话去触摸火焰的结果是什么?

楼主在这里说的是天意。什么是天意?火能煮熟东西、火也能取暖,但你就是不能摸它,因为摸它的结果就是你会吃苦头——这就是天意。上帝不是妈妈,也不是任何一个“人”,祂是高于这世界的“道”(老子),也是中国人穷极呼天时的“天”(儒家)。

上帝不是一个会来与我们辩论的人。祂所设的是铁一样的律——不听从的人,神不会来强迫他们,但是记住后果自负。你可以把妈妈的警告当威胁,不相信,同样后果自负——没人强迫。

这就是圣经给我们的信息,也是楼主告诉我们的意思。

megchen 回复 悄悄话
埃及人不顺服上帝,耶和华就降灾给他们,直到把他们全部消灭为止。以色列人不知道感恩,还处处抱怨,耶和华就让他们在旷野流浪多年。----Gosh, what a warning! Or it is a kind of threatening?

What kind of message are you trying to spread?
megchen 回复 悄悄话
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.

by GEORGE BERNARD SHAW
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