有Group member 在问CPA找工作的问题,我先预定这个版面啦

第一个工作问题,有人提过,请讨论一下:

但是如果没工作经验，你是CPA,CFA，应聘entry level,会不会有overqualified的问题呢？

第二个工作问题,本人正在找工作,已经有一月啦.听说现在会计很容易找工作,可是还没有什么音信.
我主要找的是政府工,登记了二十份审计工作,都是联邦政府.但又不知道够不够,再申请多几十份才够?如果你们有看我的简历,其实我一直都在为人民服务.去年我在政府做审计的时候心情奇好.你在BIG 4也许不很厉害,但是到了政府,你可是顶尖级人马.保证一年升一级.如果你们有移民局的经历,其实跟平民讲话的都是小官,看他们的口气,好牛啊...........GS-9(副县长待遇, 多小的官,从七品) 以上的人永远也不用见customer.我老板GS-13,(副州长的待遇)几个平时是上帝一般的团长(军队里面长官就是再生父母)见了她都要毕恭毕敬.我坐在老板的前面,团长们路过了以为我是什么新来的高手.居然招呼问好.有幸我的几个老板都是13,他们的地位雷打不动,都没比我们这些菜鸟多读几年书,不知何是CPA,竟然是总预算师.很多CPA混了一辈子还是个Controller.

没什么,就是年轻的时候比其他人每天多干了一个小时.中年的时候比别人反而干得都少.去那里找这样的工作啊.如果你在BIG 4,要多干几天一个星期.如果你真的不想发财,没什么区别.政府的综合待遇比BIG 4 的好.我混在里面几年了,造就了我这样一代想吃纳税人钱粮的新人. 如果你想干一番惊天动地的事业,政府也可以,官大了,可以直接上书到议会改预算,提审计报告,你退休前会有机会的.

可惜我混的是小城市大部门,现在想找个大城市小一点也可以的部门居然找苦了.你们有谁有找政府工作的经验呢,是不是要多申请几十个工作啊.现在政府的都是网上申请了,懒得见你,顺便查查你的祖宗是干什么的.还有,BIG 4 我都申请了,他们比政府的人还牛啊,居然像打火箭一样,去了不回.BIG 4去不了,BIG 20 我也申请了,他们也是小牛啊.虽然我不是什么名校毕业,但拒绝信也给我一封啊.

请你们提些意见,好让我再努力一下. 谢谢啊.

[初夏的果实]

I'm going to take CPA exam in CA. I'm evaluated my coursework right now.

The bachelor degree I got from China has been accepted by board-approved agency, but the agency didn't show how many units in accounting courses, how many units in business-related courses.CA board requires 24 units in Accounting and 24 units in Business-related.

My major is Business and Economics, so I think the units in accounting courses are not enough. I realized from website of CA Board of Accountancy, the courses I took from a vocational school are acceptale, but this school just evaluates coursework by hour, not unit. Could anybody advise how many hours are required by CA board of Accountancy? How can I do in this situation? Thank you for any reply.

[alicewye]

回复枯鸦的评论:
You're welcome! Good luck!

[枯鸦]

回复alicewye的评论:
thanks a lot for the information. I have sent out my application to CES. After making a quick accessment, I have made decision to sit for Delaware States. I know that whole lot factors will be involved regarding certification and license, well, I'm going to warry about it until the time comes. However, I really do appreciate your prompt response.

[alicewye]

回复枯鸦的评论:
Also, if you have any question about the process, please be more detail, so that we can help. :)

[alicewye]

回复枯鸦的评论:
I think you should follow whatever the board website asks you to do, because they are the one to process and say yes to your case.

[fsnb8118]

回复枯鸦的评论:
I just sent your question though the group email. I will let you know if there is any update news. Thanks.

[枯鸦]

fsnb8118,
想请教一下报考Delaware州的情况。我打算今年7月考，还没报名，网上找了好多资料，太杂，也去了Delaware的board网页。想在报名前得高人指点！多谢！

[Chunky]

回复fsnb8118的评论:
In CA, you have to send everything including the check to the agency, or they won't process. :)

[fsnb8118]

回复初夏的果实的评论:
Try not to pay anything up front!!! They are accoutants expert in cash collection. It took me three days to finish the packet.

[Chunky]

回复初夏的果实的评论:
Send your sealed tran and diploma to th evaluation agency. They will send the evaluated tran to CA board. It won't take 9-month. At most 2 months.

[初夏的果实]

Thank everybody for your answer.They are really helpful.

I have already checked website of Board of California Accountancy and got a lot of information.I know the firstble is evaluation.The evaluation report will be available in 9 months. Is that correct?

[Chunky]

回复初夏的果实的评论:
Evaluate your tran first. You can check out all the information you need from CA accounting board. If you have questions, call them. They are really helpful on phone.

[alicewye]

回复初夏的果实的评论:
Hi. I hope my little information can help.
1. go to CA accountancy board website to check for the requiremen(http://www.dca.ca.gov/cba/forms/exambk1.pdf).
Check the FAQ. It has a detail page about foreign education.
2. Evaluation your tran from China. (website has info). As I know, community college credits which can be transfers to a 4 year university are countable towards to the eduacation requirement in NorthCarolina. But double check with the accountacy board in CA.
3. Once you applied, approved, you will get a NTS, then you can schedule your exam by that time. :)
Hope this can help.

[初夏的果实]

本人在南加州，菜鸟一只，甚至都不知如何开始evaluation credit,很希望能有前辈及同道中人来指点一二。我在国内贸易经济本科毕业，学习过会计课程，但不是major, 在美国没有相关学历，只是在社区大学晚上上accounting的基础课程，同时在一家wholesale公司做全职bookkeeper.很希望能在这个专业里有进一步发展，希望不是痴人说梦。
能否恳请各位不吝赐教，如何入门？例如如何报名，如何审核学分，如果学分不够，能有多久可以补上学分？报名后多久必须考试？考试流程是怎样的？
抱歉这么多菜鸟问题。多谢答复，并保持联络。

[fsnb8118]

回复Chunky的评论:
Hhahahahaha, from GS-9 to Gs-12 is non-competitive position, raise once a year. GS-12 above you have to compete with others........but all you need is MBA!!!! hahahahaha. My boss doesn't have a degree.......they cannot fire her, but send her to school for a year with pay........what kind job is that.

By the way, you can go up really fast in the government, but you have to win the election to be a leader.....I cannnot speak that kind of good English to win 2008 election.

[Chunky]

You are soooo funny. I showed your article to my husband. He said: Wow...Promotion every year!!! You will be our President in a few years!!! Hahahah.... We enjoy your article....Keep on.

[alicewye]

fsnb8118: 搞笑！！！我也在找工作，我不介意小城市大部门， 什么时候也介绍我去做做啊。 哈哈哈。

[alicewye]

Hello, is anyone here working for accounting firms? I just graduated in Dec. 2006, B.S. Accounting. I am looking for jobs, could anyone give me some advice? For example, big company vs.small company, accounting firm vs. corporation ect. Thanks a lot.

[alicewye]

回复quicklearner的评论:
I agree with you. Actually I like the way how the CPA exam design. Before taking the exam, I learn most of the stuff from school, but just learn, never really apply to a case, but CPA exams require us to understand and know how to apply. Great experience!

[quicklearner]

I dont know about CFA, but as far as CPA, you have to have at least one year qualified working experience to be a CPA.To me, learning is the key, so no overqualify issue.

[fsnb8118]

回复oharaJP的评论:
Please check my updates in the other section, I got an article for you.

[oharaJP]

Hi, there. This is a great Blog. Well, I just graduated in Toronto with a bachelor degree major in business administration. I am planning to take severl accounting course then to write the CPA test. My question is since I don't have any working experience in accouting field, can I still write the test to get a CPA certificate first. If so, which state will you guys recommend for me? Thank you so much.

[alicewye]

顶一下！

[fsnb8118]

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CPA是注册会计师(Certified Public Accoutant)的英文缩写，是指依法取得注册
会计师证书并接受委托从事审计和会计咨询、会计服务业务的执业人员。注册会
计师主要承接的工作有审查企业的会计报表，出具审计报告；验证企业资本，出
具验资报告；办理企业合并、分立、清算事宜中的审计业务，出具有关的报告；
法律、行政法规规定的其他审计业务等。尤其是在执行上市公司审计时，注册会
计师不仅要鉴证一个公司是否遵循了法律、法规和制度，而且还要判定其会计报
表是否遵循了真实性、公允性和一贯性原则。由注册会计师依法执行审计业务出
具的报告，具有证明效力。

英国特许公认会计师公会
(The Association of Chartered Certified Accountants, 简称 ACCA)
成立于1904年，是目前全球最大的国际会计师组织。ACCA 的国际地位举足轻重，
联合国于确定其环球课程时， 亦是以ACCA 的课程作为蓝本。



学员完成14张考卷并积累3年相关工作经验，可申请成为ACCA 会员，并授予 “特
许公认会计师”称衔，可使用ACCA作为头衔。

ACCA是世界上大多数国家都承认的,但是由于地方保护主义,也就是保护本国的会
计师,虽然在企业任职可以,在事务所做鉴证业务就不行了,举例:ACCA在中国可以
作到跨国公司的CFO,但是不能在审计报告上签字.目前为止,能在国内审计报告上
签字的只有CPA,CPA分为执业和非执业两种,看清楚,是执业不是职业,执业可以在
审计报告上签字,非执业不行,但是可以在企业任职,不过要想进入跨国公司还要英
语好,CPA共有5科:会计审计财务成本管理经济法税法,要求在5年之内全部通
过,否则到第六年还未全部通过的话,第一年的成绩作废,第七年还未全过,则第二
年的成绩作废,以此类推,即单科成绩有效5年.ACCA一共14科,分为三个阶段,第一
阶段3科,第二阶段6科,第三阶段5科,单科成绩有效10年,中国和英国有互相承认
的协议，所以通过CPA的考ACCA可以免考第一阶段全部课程和第二阶段的13课
程，另外第三部分5科中前两科是从4科中选两科,如果发展方向是企业就选企业
方向,如果发展方向是事务所就选鉴证方向,第三部分的后3科必须在一次考试中
同时报名,不允许分着报名,且必须三科全过才有效,如果只过两科,那么没过的
一科也要达到40分,这样过了的两科成绩可以保留一次,如果没够40分或者只过一
科,则白搭,至于工资,具体要看个人的能力,CPA中有佼佼者,ACCA中也有废物点心
,能过ACCA的人未必过的了CPA,因为CPA答案唯一，不允许个人的发挥,错就是错
,对就是对,ACCA允许个人的发挥,答案不唯一,你可以有自己的想法,只要你的想
法合理，ACCA是很注重个人能力的,CPA不是不注重个人能力,而是因为这个行业
在我国起步晚(91年,国外是上百年)所以国外认为我们的考试不够权威,为了打消
国外的想法,财政部将CPA考试设计的极为变态,超难，想考就要有充分的思想准
备,ACCA则要求外语好.以上意见仅供参考,祝好运.



文章来自: cpa和ACCA
作者:无间郁 日期:09/08/2006 08:57:44

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