smith342008-04-27 07:30:51回复悄悄话
to: 猷子
u better go hang urself, that would save you from ur depression,
猷子2008-04-25 19:27:27回复悄悄话
回复laojie and smith34的评论:
我没有意思说西方社会就是完美社会,就没有人权问题,就绝对民主自由。只是相比而言,西方社会有基本人权,基本的民主自由。我们没有必要要拿西方社会做楷模,也没有必要去过多关注西方人怎样看待中国。我们应该把眼光用来关注中国自身的发展。这个发展并不仅仅是经济,而是包括人权,法制,民主和自由。中共总是以发展经济为由来否定人权,法制,民主和自由。正是由于中国没有人权,法制,民主和自由,经济发展所创造的大部分财富都只进了少数人的腰包,而且自然环境遭受严重破坏,后人的生存空间都面临严重威胁,而且中国那个社会已经腐败头顶了,“呼吸着污染的空气,吃着假货毒物,喝着无论如何也净化不了的劣质水,还要提防被人算计,盯着涨价的肉,担心着股票,一天数遍的检查防盗窗门,梦里还要抓紧设计发财的路数。”这样的经济发展可取吗?另一个问题是,是不是我们有了基本的人权,法制,民主和自由之后,经济发展就会受阻?办奥运会靠的不仅仅是经济实力,而是需要尊重奥林匹克精神。奥运史上那些亵渎奥林匹克精神的奥运会,比如希特勒1936年的奥运会和1980年的苏共奥运会,无论是主办者还是参与者,都付出了惨重代价。
smith342008-04-25 09:39:40回复悄悄话
to: 猷子
something to think abt, read this:
http://news.wenxuecity.com/messages/200804/news-gb2312-581611.html
did i just tell u?
smith342008-04-25 06:48:55回复悄悄话
and 猷子 also tried to tell everyone that he is a proud chinese, who is upset with a hopeless government.
b.t.w. if anybody sees he sides with anti china demonstrator in public, then you may want to 将his家庭地址公开
smith342008-04-25 06:45:04回复悄悄话
to: laojie
well, my dear comrade, i am just trying to tell you that its the chinese government that ruin everyone's image, not cnn, not abc, its the uncapable government.
smith342008-04-25 06:43:43回复悄悄话
and just to let you know, the chinese government just agreed to meet dalai lama's representative, so the government is meeting the separitist (death penalty in china) for meeting???? where is everyone's logic here?
laojie2008-04-25 06:42:42回复悄悄话
回复smith34的评论:
If you are waiting for an answer to your quesiton from either a scum bag, or thugs, you can keep waiting for a long long time since no body fits the lable. Well, you can try to provide one yourself.
smith342008-04-25 06:35:17回复悄悄话
to: 梦见前生
according to chairman mao, you are avoiding fighting with the enemy, so the ABC slap on your face and you get angry at me??? u loser....
smith342008-04-25 06:23:34回复悄悄话
to: laojie
well i am not calling u thugs, there is no need to get high on me, you scum bag, i am calling u scum bag only.
i am just asking what you think and what you will do to ABC????
smith342008-04-25 06:21:04回复悄悄话
to: 猷子
bro, in australia, caucasions can easily get away if they did wrong things to minorities and aboriginals, have heard and seen a few cases.
whilst in china, if you hurt minorities, then you will be in deep shit coz the government wanna show they look after the poor and disadvantaged. and if minorities killed chinese, they probably get away from that like the caucasions in australia.
personal views only here......
laojie2008-04-25 05:42:44回复悄悄话
回复smith34的评论: correction -- 1.3 billion people in the wrong direction
not 1.3 people.
Only thugs call 1.3 billion people thugs. Here is something for you to think about: A crazy guy was driving on a highway, he turned on radio and heard a warning about someone driving in the wrong direction. The crazy guy said to himself, what do they mean someone is in the wrong direction? there are 1.3 billion people in the wrong direction.
laojie2008-04-25 05:38:50回复悄悄话
回复smith34的评论:
Only thugs call 1.3 billion people thugs. Here is something for you to think about: A crazy guy was driving on a highway, he turned on radio and heard a warning about someone driving in the wrong direction. The crazy guy said to himself, what do they mean someone is in the wrong direction? there are 1.3 people in the wrong direction.
smith342008-04-25 05:08:29回复悄悄话
well, in the us, the guy called chinese thugs is under pressure, so here we go again, another media calling chinese thugs, so what you do? or u only care abt who started calling u thugs?
smith342008-04-25 05:06:48回复悄悄话
well, its public media's critism abt you thugs, i am asking u what you are thinking! u thugs....
梦见前生2008-04-24 19:22:54回复悄悄话
回复smith34的评论:
Thugs never care about you or ABC's bullshit. Who do you think you are?
smith342008-04-24 19:01:19回复悄悄话
search google news about "china", then u will find:
"Pro-China thugs 'assaulted relay spectators' ABC Online".
ABC here is Australian Broadcasting Corporation. so what do you thugs think now?
CuriousChimpanzee2008-04-24 11:47:08回复悄悄话
"达赖喇嘛也无法说服全部藏人(oversea ZD"
If he even has no influence on the small numbers of oversea ZD, how can he represent all people in Tibet? One of these must be a lie. He either is a person nobody caring to listen or he controls some population, especially the oversea ZD followers. Do you believe him? He is just trying to avoid the responsibility for the violence and any possible terror actions. I think he is a double face person. Remember, he never denounces the riot in Tibet and the terrorist threats by oversea ZD.
smith342008-04-24 07:10:37回复悄悄话
search google news about "china", then u will find:
"Pro-China thugs 'assaulted relay spectators' ABC Online".
ABC here is Australian Broadcasting Corporation. so what do you thugs think now?
smith342008-04-24 05:20:57回复悄悄话
the woman in the second photos did not wear undies, very tibetan style
smith342008-04-24 05:18:21回复悄悄话
search google news about "china", then u will find:
"Pro-China thugs 'assaulted relay spectators' ABC Online".
ABC here is Australian Broadcasting Corporation. so what do you thugs think now?
woshiwo20062008-04-24 05:18:10回复悄悄话
WE LOVE TIBET口号在悄悄的变
扬子江酒店2008-04-24 01:55:10回复悄悄话
赞一个!真为澳洲华人骄傲!
但普通澳洲人的反应还是很让人担心,今天下午Courier来拿东西,看到中国人就提‘It's all your friends in Canberra's fault',还好老板(西人)和大家都不答话,他也觉得无趣。不过有这种思想的西方人太多了,他们根本不了解西藏也不了解中国,西方传媒牵着他们的鼻子走。英文网站也有很多西人留言攻击中国的。
觉得中国要改变形象不是一朝一夕的事,还有很长的路要走,只有祖国强大才能根本改变西方人的观念。
dallan2008-04-24 01:41:53回复悄悄话
good and moved by you, my brothers and sisters!
u better go hang urself, that would save you from ur depression,
我没有意思说西方社会就是完美社会,就没有人权问题,就绝对民主自由。只是相比而言,西方社会有基本人权,基本的民主自由。我们没有必要要拿西方社会做楷模,也没有必要去过多关注西方人怎样看待中国。我们应该把眼光用来关注中国自身的发展。这个发展并不仅仅是经济,而是包括人权,法制,民主和自由。中共总是以发展经济为由来否定人权,法制,民主和自由。正是由于中国没有人权,法制,民主和自由,经济发展所创造的大部分财富都只进了少数人的腰包,而且自然环境遭受严重破坏,后人的生存空间都面临严重威胁,而且中国那个社会已经腐败头顶了,“呼吸着污染的空气,吃着假货毒物,喝着无论如何也净化不了的劣质水,还要提防被人算计,盯着涨价的肉,担心着股票,一天数遍的检查防盗窗门,梦里还要抓紧设计发财的路数。”这样的经济发展可取吗?另一个问题是,是不是我们有了基本的人权,法制,民主和自由之后,经济发展就会受阻?办奥运会靠的不仅仅是经济实力,而是需要尊重奥林匹克精神。奥运史上那些亵渎奥林匹克精神的奥运会,比如希特勒1936年的奥运会和1980年的苏共奥运会,无论是主办者还是参与者,都付出了惨重代价。
something to think abt, read this:
http://news.wenxuecity.com/messages/200804/news-gb2312-581611.html
did i just tell u?
你!错!啦!
这时一场中西方为生存空间的交量。不是意识形态的斗争。中共不管怎么做中国人都是会招骂的。中国弱了。就没这么招风了。
西方民众对中国的西藏问题是不感兴趣的。
经济吃紧,转嫁矛盾,当然也要美其名曰。
我还真看不出你中文写这么好,却连很中共入骨的达赖的热诚都不如。
是你忘了如果没有共产党搞的那几十年阶级斗争,把中国搞得一穷二白,中国早就办奥运会了。文革十年,中共自己都承认,国民经济已经到了崩溃的边缘。你还好意思说什么共产党领导才有奥运会。你认为别人都不了解历史?如果没有共产党践踏人权,亵渎奥运精神,奥运火炬也不会传递得这样窝囊。
b.t.w. if anybody sees he sides with anti china demonstrator in public, then you may want to 将his家庭地址公开
well, my dear comrade, i am just trying to tell you that its the chinese government that ruin everyone's image, not cnn, not abc, its the uncapable government.
If you are waiting for an answer to your quesiton from either a scum bag, or thugs, you can keep waiting for a long long time since no body fits the lable. Well, you can try to provide one yourself.
另外奥运火炬传递的历史上,熄灭过很多次,没什么了不起的。别在这里自作聪明、装神弄鬼地吓唬人了。
看来是火炬传递的发展越来越好,你失望、着急了吧?
according to chairman mao, you are avoiding fighting with the enemy, so the ABC slap on your face and you get angry at me??? u loser....
或许你能在做梦时梦见从破门看到美景,但我却无论怎样也从这个破门看不到什么美景。去年,希腊一场史无前例的森林大火将传统奥运圣火点火处化为灰烬。北京奥运的火炬点火只好异地。除了从点火时起就一直抗议不断外,在泰国,抗议人士被警察严格控制在路旁,没有人能够冲进路中影响火炬的传递,但火炬却自动熄灭了五次;而在马来西亚,几乎没有什么抗议人士,但在传递过程中老天却下着倾盆大雨。希望你能了解,在奥运史上奥运火炬的熄灭是罕见的。最近又传出鸟巢多处漏水的消息,在以后的过程中,不仅仅是火炬传递,还不断有这样的破门爆出,衷心祝愿你能一直看到美景。我们好不容易盼到我们中国人能够办一次奥运会,但这个奥运会的奥运精神却被中共这个专制暴虐政权亵渎了,以至于破门不断,我深深感到痛心。
well i am not calling u thugs, there is no need to get high on me, you scum bag, i am calling u scum bag only.
i am just asking what you think and what you will do to ABC????
bro, in australia, caucasions can easily get away if they did wrong things to minorities and aboriginals, have heard and seen a few cases.
whilst in china, if you hurt minorities, then you will be in deep shit coz the government wanna show they look after the poor and disadvantaged. and if minorities killed chinese, they probably get away from that like the caucasions in australia.
personal views only here......
一个靠武装押运的奥运火炬在奥运史上是罕见的,而且其本身令人感受到的不是代表奥运精神的和平和吉祥,而是让人感到火药味。当然你也可以从中感受到你的和平和吉祥,你甚至可以认为那些穿黑服的警察围住火炬就是美的象征。这只是我们各人对和平,吉祥和美有不同的定义而已。没有别的意思,希望不要像对待王千源那样,将我的家庭地址公开,我双亲年事已高,经不起暴徒的骚扰。你知道“警察是怕你的同伙们犯法,进了大牢大家没什么意思。”那是在澳洲,犯了法就得坐牢,而在中国,那些骚扰王千源的不法分子至今仍逍遥法外。多么吉祥和和平的国度啊!
not 1.3 people.
Only thugs call 1.3 billion people thugs. Here is something for you to think about: A crazy guy was driving on a highway, he turned on radio and heard a warning about someone driving in the wrong direction. The crazy guy said to himself, what do they mean someone is in the wrong direction? there are 1.3 billion people in the wrong direction.
Only thugs call 1.3 billion people thugs. Here is something for you to think about: A crazy guy was driving on a highway, he turned on radio and heard a warning about someone driving in the wrong direction. The crazy guy said to himself, what do they mean someone is in the wrong direction? there are 1.3 people in the wrong direction.
Thugs never care about you or ABC's bullshit. Who do you think you are?
有的人可以越过花园的破门看到花园的美景。有的人永远只能看到破门。从您的评论可以看出,如果未来您的心理不发生改变,您永远看到是破门,您永远是自己的地狱!
I suppose that it is not a bad thing that your are desperated.
你别神神道道的,想吓呼谁呢,没门的。
警察是怕你的同伙们犯法,进了大牢大家没什么意思。
在闹下去,藏青会不免就定成了国际恐怖集团了。
就象这样的,还参什么禅,念什么佛的,省省吧。
"Pro-China thugs 'assaulted relay spectators' ABC Online".
ABC here is Australian Broadcasting Corporation. so what do you thugs think now?
从下面的录像也可以看到,最后火炬手点燃了象征奥运的火盆后,刚要欢呼,但在火盆内的熊熊火焰瞬间就莫名其妙地熄灭了,全场一片尴尬。火炬手-前澳洲游泳奥运冠军只好摔手离去。过了好一段时间,两位火炬保镖才重新点燃。有些事不是靠人多或声音大就能解决的。
另外从电视报道可以看到,火炬沿途都由澳洲警察重兵护送,有一段路程澳洲警察将两位蓝衣保镖拉开,不让他们充当什么保镖。
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/index.php?cl=7535079
先让法,德等国扮黑脸,而美国则私低下哄骗中国与与达赖喇嘛谈判。
中国一旦与达赖喇嘛开始谈判,达赖喇嘛一定会先答应他是反藏独的,只是想西藏自治而以。
但达赖喇嘛自治西藏的结果一定是西藏独立。
中国绝对不能因为奥运而与达赖喇嘛谈判。谈判以后只会越来越被动,让美国等得寸进尺。
美国最近一直在要求中国让美国在西藏设置一个领事馆。
中国绝对不能答应美国这个要求。有了美国领事馆, 美国便可与藏独里应外合,搞出很多事情来。
随着年龄的增长和中国的日益强大,达赖喇嘛也知道自己的要求是不会被接受的,他就不断的修改自己的言论,从以前坚持独立到现在要求高度自治,司马昭之心,路人皆知!从这些不断修改的言论就知道他有多虚伪和狡诈了.妄想把分裂和人权同日而语,不分裂就没有人权了吗?他现在装出一副善良的嘴脸只能说明他比以前成熟,识时务了,但披着羊皮的狼还是狼,是更狡猾的狼!若是那豺狼来了,迎接它的只有猎枪!
澳洲华人在西方制度国家里是最有力量的一群。象你们致敬。
在美华人应该积极投如为华人争取权宜的活动里去。
中国人就是要团结。
ZD打的标语就是FREE TIBET,中国能让他独立吗? 这么多年来中央政府给西藏多少无
偿的财政补贴,建设了多少基础设施?牺牲了多少中华儿女?
俺老泰山就是80年援藏的干部,在拉萨市公安局工作.高原气候缺氧,很少有青菜,非
常艰苦.当年仅湖北就有180位援藏的干部,原计划是5年,非常幸运,当年胡锦涛主政
西藏后为了多培养本地干部,让好多内地干部提前回了内地.老泰山在西藏仅工作了
2年,但好多同志工作了20 -30年,特别向他们致敬!
If he even has no influence on the small numbers of oversea ZD, how can he represent all people in Tibet? One of these must be a lie. He either is a person nobody caring to listen or he controls some population, especially the oversea ZD followers. Do you believe him? He is just trying to avoid the responsibility for the violence and any possible terror actions. I think he is a double face person. Remember, he never denounces the riot in Tibet and the terrorist threats by oversea ZD.
没有根据的指责是没有帮助的。我们需要冷静,客观地分析,而不是随意滥骂。
看看达赖喇嘛的真正意愿:
http://news.wenxuecity.com/messages/200804/news-gb2312-580696.html
"他用藏文写道:对於所有汉族同胞表示问好。我们兄弟民族在紧紧保持兄弟情感下,任何问题以通过內部坦诚交谈来解决,並经常保持相互密切的关系是很重要的。"
对比达赖喇嘛和你的态度,你觉得是哪个更有亲和力呢?
达赖喇嘛也无法说服全部藏人,为什么我们硬要把他跟藏独或暴徒联系在一起呢?
我从来没有看到确切的证据,说明达赖喇嘛策划或支持暴力手段。
"Pro-China thugs 'assaulted relay spectators' ABC Online".
ABC here is Australian Broadcasting Corporation. so what do you thugs think now?
难道血迹斑斑的达赖喇嘛会放下屠刀,立地成佛否!?
Tibet is free now.
第一张照片的老人是中方的爱国人士。
ABC网站上到处都是攻击中国的反面言论,哎,中国人的形象在西人眼里就这么差吗?!
"Pro-China thugs 'assaulted relay spectators' ABC Online".
ABC here is Australian Broadcasting Corporation. so what do you thugs think now?
澳洲警察的水平比较高,严格将PRO-CHINA和PRO-TIBET两组人马隔开,尽量避免冲突
.
但普通澳洲人的反应还是很让人担心,今天下午Courier来拿东西,看到中国人就提‘It's all your friends in Canberra's fault',还好老板(西人)和大家都不答话,他也觉得无趣。不过有这种思想的西方人太多了,他们根本不了解西藏也不了解中国,西方传媒牵着他们的鼻子走。英文网站也有很多西人留言攻击中国的。
觉得中国要改变形象不是一朝一夕的事,还有很长的路要走,只有祖国强大才能根本改变西方人的观念。
Love Tibet but free Tibet NO WAY
到the age网站仔细看看吧。。
网上有视频,可是还是不能判断他的立场