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Slowly I Open My Eyes in the Rain I can hear you now walking gingerly among the nameless trees of autumn touching the wet leaves of memory drinking the colors of remembrance & the longing-in-the-heart Without the rain I think I can still (if I try hard) smell your small happiness, not measured artificially, nor with your own obvious acknowledgement Listening to the rain my soul takes on a voice making me believe everything will be alright from now on, like this quiet falling Nothing is lost Nothing gained ... this other voice : So is life So is death So is love and everything else we want to name :: nov. 2005 [art by Adi Da]
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that is, what we want to learn must seduce us, and we it....
this metaphor is not new....i read many times in poetry....
[oh, hey, did you also have problems posting?? sometimes i had to try more than once....]
Really??
:))
true!
:))
Knowledge is erotic!
:))
YY你说的完全正确。再细读你的文字，觉得很深刻，我会感觉ＰＯＷＥＲＦＵＬ。是因为我感觉很有力量，其力量来自你的“知识”。。。
但是就像我说的，每个人说的话都是对的。因为概念只是概念而已，一个人的Personality最好和NATURE不相抵触为好，是吗？我觉得我们这里每个人都很NATURE，说的话也很NATURE，开的“玩笑”更NATURE ：）难道不是吗？
喜欢开玩笑因为喜欢笑，喜欢笑很NATURE，是不是？说到生命，比如婴儿，健康的小宝宝多比较爱笑，很NATURE。。。所以米勒的智慧李敖的智慧都有推翻“腐朽”追求人的“健康”。。。
请原谅我多思，说着说着又扯远了:))
Enjoying joking belongs to Personality, i guess so :)
你的“/\”和“\/”很能解释诗歌中男孩女孩的"本性"，看样子作舟用 "fighting" 和 "womb" 两词不是偶然:))
At the end of every poem, mother smiles
Once a boy, always a boy!
There is no use in stopping him
From fighting for the worthless prize
Maybe her daughter is somewhat
Wiser, slowly turning
Her gaze from the cesspool
With sugar glaze & content
To open her womb for another
Countryless child
(希望你不要介意我本喜欢开玩笑的本性Nature:)
其实我从一个人的文字和诗歌里已强烈感觉到“双重个性”，比如在我们写一些“智慧”的文字时，我确实感觉不到我们性别的分别。。。我想或许诗歌也是，如果一首完全跳出“我”的诗歌，我们便不会去辨别是男性还是女性写的诗歌，感觉的会是很多人的共鸣，比如作舟的一些诗歌，还有影云你介绍的RUMI的诗，Archibald MacLeish的“Ars Poetica”等等都是如此，所以我很同意你所说的“艺术，智慧，灵魂，生命。。。无性别之分 。。。。;)”
一点一点，我更理解了e e cummings所说：
-luckily for us,a mountain is a mammal. The plusorminus movie to end moving,the strictly scientific parlourgame of real unreality,the tyranny conceived in misconception and dedicated to the proposition that every man is a woman and any woman is a king,hasn't a wheel to stand on. What their synthetic not to mention transparent majesty, mrsandmr collective foetus,would improbably call a ghost is walking. He isn't a undream of anaesthetized impersons, or a cosmic comfortstation,or a transcedentally sterilized lookiesoundiefeelietastiesmellie. He is a healthily complex,a naturally homogenous,citizen of immorality. The now of his each pitying free imperfect gesture,his any birth of breathing,insults perfected inframortally milleniums of slavishness. He is a little more than everything,he is democracy;he is alive:he is ourselves.
再读这首诗歌，发现诗里的“感觉移位很重”，很喜欢。。。"ＳＭＥＬＬ ＹＯＵ
Ｒ ＳＭＡＬＬ /ＨＡＰＰＩＮＥＳＳ"。。。
浑然一体的
清。。
净。。
。。
。
之所以说，生命，智慧，灵魂。。。无性别之分，不单是字面上，这些词语不用男
女前缀来表达；其实稍静心下来想一下就可以了。
男人／女人性格：体现在男人和女人的性格，是ＣＨＡＲＡＣＴＥＲＩＳＴＩＣＳ，
但不是ＮＡＴＵＲＥ
男人／女人智慧：是日常生活柴米油盐的ＴＩＰ，怎样穿好看，怎样好ＥＱ。或许
可以让一个男／女人ＳＭＡＲＴ，但不是ＷＩＳＥ。ＴＩＰ 不是ＷＩＳＤＯＭ。
我想，“男人”和“女人”在艺术家心里，更多是“ＳＹＭＢＯＬ”，是一股生命
力量，也可以预示自然力量（阳／阴，日／月，火／水，山／河。。。）的两种展
示，它们的融和调协非常ＰＯＷＥＲＦＵＬ。不管男人女人，都有一个共同的问题
就是“我是谁”，“生活的目的是什么”。。。追寻过程或者”答案“是依照个人
的生活环境，ＳＥＬＦ－ＡＷＡＲＥＮＥＳＳ的强度 － － － 这里也不是Ｈ
ＩＭ／ＨＥＲ－ＳＥＬＦ－ＡＷＡＲＥＮＥＳＳ，和毅力，好多好多因素来决定。。。，
但我想还是个人因素居多。寻求的ＩＤＥＮＴＩＴＹ，不是来自外界的所有因素的
总合，“男，２４，汉。。。”这些或许可以ＩＤＥＮＴＩＦＹ一个嫌疑犯，但对
一个人的内心世界是没有用的，每一个人都是一个ＩＮＤＩＶＩＤＵＡＬ，独特。
人的ＳＥＬＦ－ＡＷＡＲＥＮＥＳＳ增强，对世界就会一份敏感，对生命，灵魂。。。
这些很“抽象”的概念就会有追寻的动力；对别人的苦难也会感受同情。。。因为
唤醒的是全人类，一个很ＵＮＩＶＥＲＳＡＬ的共性：人性。所以说，母亲也是一
个“ＳＹＭＢＯＬ”，就象上次讨论的一样。。。
而且“平凡”也不是一个词而已，卡夫卡在一家店里卖东西（多么平凡的生活呀！），
但写出了现代文学里最好的作品之一。所以呢，人只要不流于世俗和甘于平庸，都
有“救”。
/\ known as "blade" representing aggression; the original icon for female is \/ known as "chalice" representing fertility. "Holy Grail" is a symbol represent sacred vessel that gives birth to the life...;)
Well, distrated from the subject. Only because ZF mentioned hermapharodite it reminded me this connection..:)
ABout "双重个性", I remembered there is some interesting writing in "Da Vinci Code", that Holy Grail... ALso the paint "Mona Lisa" was said to contain "双重性别". I could be have wrong memory..:))
I started to wondering what I was doing? I am not only living for today, I am more andanced now! I am trying to learn to live for the every changing living instant! My oh my, can I handle this?? :)
Then I had to close my eyes and say "surrender!". Oopes, I meant to say, "let go of all the moments!" :)))
:))
see with your mind's eye....
我也是。。。但是不是要得过且过的那个意思。。。
所以我认为 a personal "happiness" or "pleasure" is IMPORTANT....
it is "good" or "lucky" for some one.... 我想为了所爱的人也要想法快乐，才对得起自己所爱的人，如果我们每个人都能快快乐乐的，这个世界也就太平了...
我的思想很简单，其实真正快乐比痛苦困难多了（我的个人体会）。。。
You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
......
:))
i agree....
when we look at those paintings, we know that is what the artists reveal to us...
you missed the "meeting" ... now it's your turn to speak...:)
i am also living for today... :)
I don't know whether there is sexual identity at the "soul" level. But I bet the sexual differention must started at very high level. From 0 to 1 no difference, but from 1 to 2, I bet 2 ("Ying and Yang") inferred sexual difference. A pure guess.:)
Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...
Above us only sky。。。所以对于凡人来说，智慧或许就是"living for today..."
米勒的智慧也是这样的"living for today..."
in short, a personal "happiness" or "pleasure" is not important....it is "good" or "lucky" for some one....
so, we keep an eye on the world, another on the inner universe....
您这可是真正的艺术家的胸怀！！！
:))
"性别之分" should not keep one from getting 智慧....
Lennon's song is about world peace....that is very very very important!!!
:)
in short, a personal "happiness" or "pleasure" is not important....it is "good" or "lucky" for some one....
so, we keep an eye on the world, another on the inner universe....
人在慢慢的苏醒...成熟...
（完全同意！！！）
凡人还是有性别之分的（至少现在我自己的直觉自己还是个女性，等我成熟的时候或许没有，但是生命是一个成熟的过程。。。），人的灵觉进入“上乘”或许没有，那有点“神”，比如观音其实是男人等等神秘。。。
人在进行艺术创作时，感觉到神助时或许没有，比如很多艺术家双性恋，我都是可以理解:))
人---灵魂，生命, 无性别之分---（那必定是个天堂！天堂里没有评判和没有辨别没有智慧人人一样何来男女之分别？？）
Imagine no possesions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
（我一直佩服列侬的领悟力）
人---灵魂，生命, 无性别之分---在慢慢的苏醒...成熟...（！！！！！！！！）
（我是这样理解你这句话的。。。我无法一下子跃入天堂：）
:)
any good artist possesses something different or unique....
we should not confuse the artist as a person and her/his art...
we must admit that our world has been greatly dominated by patriarchical doctrines ... women in the West has very little freedom until not long ago...
i forgot who said that "artists are medias through whom beautiful things come to life," or something like that....
说得很好！成熟 。 。 。
女人在慢慢的苏醒。。。。
艺术，智慧，灵魂，生命。。。无性别之分 。。。。;)
thank you for the beautiful translation!!!
can i buy you a beer?
:))
should be:
很多聪明的人兼具男女双重个性。。。
:))
可以听到
你此刻正在
秋季无名的树间
悄然漫步
抚摸著记忆
湿润的叶
静饮著回想
与心中渴望的
色彩
没有雨
我想我仍可以(如果
努力试)
闻到你不为人知的
欢乐，不能人为地
衡量，也不以你
自己无疑的
认同
倾听著雨
我的灵魂借以声音
让我相信
从现在开始，一切
都会好起来，如这静静的飘落
没有失去
没有获得
另一个声音
：
生命如此
死亡如此
爱如此
所有我们试图
命名的一切
都如此
= = = = = = =
一切 )
源于 归于
静
。
。
。
所以很开心我们每个人都可以在这里想说什么就说什么:)
YY说的，SD说的，诗人说的。。。我都喜欢听。。。
我想说的是不同中的某种类似，等我自己弄明白了能表达时再说吧，我现在说的很笼统，但我有这方面的一点点细微的直觉。。。
“we should not confuse the artist as a person and her/his art...“
"artists are medias through whom beautiful things come to life,"
完全同意！！！
“Art, it has been said, is beauty, and a thing of beauty is a joy for ever”.
we should not confuse the artist as a person and her/his art...
we must admit that our world has been greatly dominated by patriarchical doctrines ... women in the West has very little freedom until not long ago...
i forgot who said that "artists are medias through whom beautiful things come to life," or something like that....
cheers!!
i never knew i have 'supernatural power' like spying...:))
well, good for you to have bought his poster!!!!
$25 is still a big sum for me :))
my posters were all under $15....
ZF,
this poem was written some time ago....it's been raining off and on for days over here....rainy season now....
李敖说佛教的精髓是男人来生想变佛，女人来生想变成男人。。。Adi Da 读书时很感兴趣Gertrude Stein，而Gertrude Stein在她的有生之年是以男人的感觉生活的，所以Adi Da神乎其神没什么好奇怪的。。。任何一种宗教我以为其实都是对世界的认识。。。所以每个人或多或少都有宗教情怀。。。如果一个人信的是他自己对世界的认识，进入上乘，离“神”也就不远了。。。
我很满意自己很平凡，今生想做个女人，来生也只想做个女人，可见我多么弱智:)) 很多聪明的女人兼具男人与女人的双重个性。。。
...
Listening to the rain
my soul takes on a voice
making me believe
everything will be alright
from now on, like this quiet falling
Nothing is lost
Nothing gained
...
this other voice
:
So is life
So is death
So is love
and everything else
we want to name
很有同感！！！
也喜欢Adi Da的这幅作品，天蝎座不少艺术家的内在视觉很独特，比如毕加索。。。
among the nameless
trees of autumn
touching the wet
leaves of memory
drinking the colors
of remembrance &
the longing-in-the-heart
....
Listening to the rain
my soul takes on a voice
making me believe
everything will be alright
from now on, like this quiet falling
Nothing is lost
Nothing gained"
I am wondering whether you "spy" at me and my mind when I walk among the woods. :)
//
As you can sense, I love Alex's art very much! In fact, I bought one of his post today. Yesterday the price was marked $40 (withoun signiture), today it reduced to $25. What a coincidence! Did they know that I can't afford $40, but can afford $25? :))
I also checked out Adi Da's teaching. I love his teaching. But after reading "Ken Wilber"'s assay, I got a more realistic view of Da as a person.:)