Parting Rain (图)

Parting Rain each essential to be a partial whole- ness & dismiss the seasonal allegory the universe is so-smally wed in you / with you and it is nothing but a delayed n-e-w-s we know that don’t we? and parting rain whets my desire to be & to be wet with you in this dry season and why not step out the leaky shed & be rained upon & sing your own s-o-n-g ::june 2005 art: derek batty

[影云]

作舟，谢谢你对画饼充饥的诠释，开心你的理解！！！
也谢谢你精辟的爱的艺术课！！！“三十七计，爱为上！！！！！”

我想，我们现在的疑惑早在人类的SELF-AWARENESS苏醒时就有了，这样久的历史里，
也有不少人找到“答案”和“解决这些问题的办法”。但人类仍孜孜以求。那是因
为我们需要自己“寻”到“答案”，而不是依赖谁给予。

我所说ENJOY YOUR LIFE里，就有“放下”的意思 - - - 退一步，海阔天空。

[LTG]

same here....

making "noise" is a good thing!!

:))

[by水滴]

老塘沽， 和你聊天挺过瘾的， 再次谢谢。

[by水滴]

I am confused why "love takes more than one heart/mind...."?

[LTG]

"......I do see a lot of people are burned and lost their mind when "in Love"...

that means they are not loving, but "laboring/slaving/making a full time job out of it"....pity on them!!!!

one cannot "make" love happen....one can make "success" or "war" happen ...

love takes more than one heart/mind....

love is an art more than a "work"....

when there's too much expectation, there will be less love...

love should burn like the fire in the fireplace in winter, not the fire caused by earth quake :))

talking about Love is too easy.....but it helps us take it seriously....

[by水滴]

Good point! "why do we have to be "burnt" when in love??"

The matter of fact is that I do see a lot of people are burned and lost their mind when "in Love". what are the factors that determined that some are burned and some are not? I really need to ponder about it more.

Thanks for your response and patient.:)

[LTG]

水滴,

goooooood!!!

don't mention it!!

:))

[by水滴]

:)) Hi, LTG: As I told you before, sometimes I could be very "bad" and say something to "piss off" the others. I actualy didn't mean that you really thinks so..:)) For two years we have been knowing each other, at least I know something about you that will not make me to draw this conclusion. If, I do, I won't even mention about it! :))

[LTG]

"btw. Oh, forget to ask LTG, How to prevent being burned into ashes when one loves with all his/her heart and soul? Can one be madly in love while still stay rational?"

why do we have to be "burnt" when in love??

why can't we become more healthier, happier, sexier, more attractive when in love???

:))

if, and only if, one is truly in love [with another person, a place, a career, an art, Life, etc...], one's life should be enriched and enhanced and enlightened.....that is true Love as far as i see it....

"rational" is another problem....

according to what standard we measure something/behavior as "rational/irrational??"

a tip for shui-di:

sit quietly with your favorite poem/poems, and read it and read it and read it and read it until tears drop....

:))

the reason?

that happens to me many many times...:)

[LTG]

水滴,

what you said is also true... but i am not suggesting that "i" can love my "enemy"....i try....that is all....

like writing and reading poetry, i never expect magic will happen....no.... but i write and write and write....that's all there is to it

:)

i have never meant to suggest that you have less artistic quality or capacity to love....no.....sorry if i made any unclear comments...:)

everyone who participated these discussions have shown incredible concern and talent regarding Life/Love?Meaning, etc....

[by水滴]

AAAB: You are right, loss is something we need to deal with through out our life. So try LTG's way, LOVE with all your heart when you have chance. I guess, you will feel more fulfilled than you never loved and never tasted the pain of lose...

btw. Oh, forget to ask LTG, How to prevent being burned into ashes when one loves with all his/her heart and soul? Can one be madly in love while still stay rational?

hehe, hope you don't mind that recently I am quite noisy...:))

[LTG]

"...想着世事的难测，和虚拟世界的不稳定性，怕这里会突然消失，无影无踪，什么也不留....."

everything, i mean EVERYthing, will "突然消失，无影无踪，什么也不留....."

that is fact....

knowing the "facts" and understand them make us strong/peaceful so that we can enjoy this short but beautiful life....

another method:

if we fear something will disappear, we should do something to keep it grow and healthy, right? :)

[by水滴]

:)) LTG: you guessed that a person like me who is not artistic will be dissappointed by your anwser,right? Maybe I have less capacity to love than a poet.:))))

Unconditional love is very hard to achieve. Congratulation to you if you can truelly love your enemy! You know, only very few parents can unconditionally love their children. I don't know how many can unconditionally love their enemy. But there was and is and will be people who can achieve this! Solute from RC!

[AAAB]

我能爱，但爱到极至就成了怕，怕失去。如同爱你们和你们的诗歌在这儿一样，但想着世事的难测，和虚拟世界的不稳定性，怕这里会突然消失，无影无踪，什么也不留......

[LTG]

水滴,

我的答案会让你失望：）

因为，我战胜“恐惧”的方法是诗歌，是艺术。

心理学家/哲学家/资本家/艺术家会有不同的选择。

恐惧人人都有，有人怕胖，有人怕穷，有人怕死，有人怕孤独。。。

如果我们对人生的意义感兴趣的话，我们就知道“恐惧”与它是无关的。

战胜恐惧如战胜敌人。

如何去战胜“敌人”呢？

打啊！

不。

要学会去爱你的“敌人”！！！

作舟恍然大悟：

三十七计，爱为上！！！！！

[by水滴]

In stead of self-soothing, people can self-stimilating. Imaginary cake is used to comfort us, fear is used to make us uneased (Huang Huang Bu Ke Zhong ri).

According to LTG: people can choose not to fear. My question is how one can be empowered to chose not to fear? What is the best way to help ourselve to overcome the real fear?

[LTG]

yes, AAAB,

feelings of "insecure" has a lot to do with the outside world, which puts pressure on people (so that our "civilization would move forward" :)

by saying "having individual choices," i mean that we can create fears as well as love/beauty/gratefulness, etc...

why waste time creating fears while there is potential in every and each one of us the ability to create Love/beauty/gratefulness, etc...??

[AAAB]

我觉得“恐惧”大部分是来自体内的，被外界刺激了的部分被放大了，成了威胁性的“恐惧”；没被外界刺激的部分，被体内自身吸收了，消失了。
我常有“恐惧”感，不安全感，多半属“个人制造”。哈

[LTG]

各位好!

抱歉没能及时参与你们的讨论! 难度不小啊!

比较突出的是关于"恐惧/担忧"的讨论[水滴,影云和知凡都谈到了]...

我觉得影云引用"画饼充饥"很恰当, 就是说这里面的“方法”。

画的“饼”怎么能充饥？

当然能。如，“望梅止渴”的典故。

“恐惧”是什么？

恐惧也是“画”出来的呀！！画，就是想象。

所以，“恐惧”和“饼”都可以是很“真实”的东西，如诗歌里的“真实”。

恐惧会被人利用去威胁，操纵他人。国家的领袖/政府甚至利用人们的心理的弱点
来故意制造恐惧，来操纵芸芸众生的意志。

我们以前都同意人的生命是一种肉眼看不见的energy, 就像行尸走肉没有积极的
能量一样，我们能感到，但见不到人的“灵魂”，“灵犀”等等。

世俗的“实用主义”把人们搞糊涂了，什么能生财升官才是“有用的”。

这些道理是一样的，所以，只有少数人读诗歌。

从而，有人选择“画饼”，有人被迫“画恐惧”，也有人选择“画”诗歌/艺术等。

一个人的生活/生命在离开母体后，多靠自己的选择。作为集体动物的人，我们的“选择”
也可能是相对的，我说我们的“选择”是无限的，你大概会说是极其有限的。

不论如何，我们每一个人都有一定的选择能力，画饼画鬼，就在个人了。

[影云]

离别的雨

部分完整
的万物之本
打发走
季节性的
寓言

宇宙
在你里面
与你
细微地
结合
这不是
别的，而是
迟到的
新闻

我们早已
明白
难道不是？

离别的雨
惊醒
我的渴望
与你
与你一起
湿润
在这干燥的
季节里

为何
不踏出
漏雨的棚
被雨
淋湿，放声
高歌

[by水滴]

AAAB: You are quite humorous.:))

[AAAB]

hope i could fortunately meet a pretty woman walking in the rain and singing the nameless songs
parting rain
whets
my desire
to be
& to be
wet
with you
in this dry
season

[知凡]

水滴，那咱来生就做那一双孤燕吧！！！来生我肯定是个男的，但会很“花心”，你可得先有准备......:)水滴，若不“花心”也做不了"孤燕"，你要明白这个“真理”，“花心”不等于“随处发泄”......这是知凡目前的所“知”，所以呢，明亮眼睛，来生咱两唱一曲“双飞燕”.....别生气，知凡很真心哦:))

[by水滴]

那样，一只孤燕就成了对。。你知道吗， 我的小名叫燕子。我很喜欢燕子。

[知凡]

水滴，小时候我对孙悟空72变的能力非常神往。如果下次我看见一个女子在雨中，唱着歌，我会变成水滴的心上人搂着你……. 哈哈！开玩笑，千万别生气…… 这是我读到你的描述，第一个出现在我脑海里的画面，不骗你……:)

[by水滴]

I can't interpret much of the abstract meaning here. But I can share a concrete experience..:)

One of my favorate pleasure is walking along a hiking trail in my neighborhood under a raining sky, alone, singing along the way and let myself soaked in the rain. I love rain for whatever the reason.

Next time whenyou see a silly woman walking in the rain and singing the nameless songs, that could be me..:))

[by水滴]

Like the paint, this piece is too abstract for me. Try to understand and my thoughts start to jump..:))

[影云]

Love it!!!
Beautiful, flowing, and philosophical!!!
Love the dualism in it too