水中月
良辰静夜心无尘，对花倾情恨有身。已知飞红无悔意，手把枝头数青春。听风已见羽展翅，荆柯摇曳相握云。明朝踏马随君去，来生相逢笑颜芬。
三十二、故影
水溶带领三万长枪铁骑，并一万多京畿治下的精锐兵马返回京都去。但到了距京都一百多里地的大军行辕，他屯扎了兵马，命诸将养精蓄锐，随时听候调遣。自己却带了黛玉她们，并率护卫二百，悄然离开了遍插了王旗的行辕，便衣星夜奔往京都。
黛玉的大车依然走在队伍的中心，有八辆随侍的车子跟着，紫鹃抱着万儿带了两个奶水充足的奶妈在后面一辆大车里。那张稳婆完成使命之后便没有跟来，王庄头在水溶授意下给了她最大的酬劳，并允诺了她家人一些将来的打算。
大部分时间，黛玉会让紫鹃和万儿并一个奶妈到自己的大车里来，和孩子一同逗乐，时间也就快了。这样走了一天多，临近傍晚时分就到了京都边界的一处小镇。水溶叫黛玉下车吃些饭食，也舒展一下疲乏的筋骨。黛玉让水溶牵了手，和紫鹃抱着孩子走进一个名叫“晋升”的客栈。因为不想招人眼目，朱英他们也没把在里面的闲杂人等赶出去净场子，只随着老板的引领到了一处雅间。大家吃了些饭食正准备回去，万儿在这当口却又拉了一泡，正当紫鹃指挥着要这要那清理着，队伍那边有人叫王爷过去商量要事。黛玉便对水溶道：“收拾完了我们就回去，你先去吧。”水溶自带人去了，朱英和几个护卫就在雅间门口等着。
黛玉看着紫鹃和两个奶妈收拾好了，准备要走，却听得外头有人呵斥了谁一句，就有一个极熟悉的声音道：“你不要推我，我自会走开的。”黛玉一听，如雷轰顶，赶紧站起身来。只听得外面有些乱，因为正值恩科会试，很多举子前来应试，进城前都在这里打尖，稍有些钱财的便来厅堂坐着饮酒。黛玉叫了朱英，让他喊进来那个说话的人。那人走到门口，黛玉见他还是心里一惊，连忙拿帕子掩了微张的双唇，双目便开始变得模糊，这边紫鹃也直着身子呆住了。只见宝玉穿了一身降白茧绸的夹衣单袍，脚上一双半旧的黑土布千层底圆口鞋，面色玉白，两眼清亮，站在门口向黛玉望着。朱英正皱眉想着他是哪个---先前在王府朱英见过太多的王孙公子，现在宝玉又衣装大变，确实让人看他像个求功名的穷秀才了。紫鹃失口叫出声来：“宝二爷。”朱英马上想起他是谁来，眉头展开笑了，说了一句那个推搡宝玉的护卫，对宝玉做了个往里面请的手式。那宝玉有些懵懵懂懂走进来，直接就在黛玉面前坐了下来，两眼还是盯着黛玉，也不吭声。那边两个奶妈抱着万儿，想走也不能走。就听宝玉说了句：“妹妹看上去丰满了些。”这句话未落，黛玉早已泪如雨下。
紫鹃也含了泪犹豫着问道：“二爷怎么在这里呢？二爷吃过饭没有？”宝玉向紫鹃看了看答道：“我来还这家老板的棺材板儿钱，吃过了。”紫鹃有些担心地问：“是，是太太没了么？”宝玉摇摇头道：“不是太太，是薛蟠大哥。他去年秋后问了斩，就葬在这个镇子边上，要不是今儿宝姐姐提醒我，我都忘了还棺材钱的事。赶是今天可巧儿，在这里遇见你们。”宝玉和紫鹃一问一答地说着，黛玉只是擦着泪，一句话也没有。宝玉没有眼泪，嘴角有些苦笑道：“妹妹今天回来了，以后就不用回去了。看见妹妹身体很好，我也放心了，”黛玉这时才想起问：“宝姐姐好么？舅母薛姨妈都好么？”宝玉道：“她们都好。”说完沉默下来。
这时就听得万儿在旁边哭将起来，两个奶妈忙道：“世子爷是饿了，我们到车上去喂他。”黛玉点点头，于是紫鹃向宝玉行礼告别，也和那两个奶妈抱了孩子出去，自有两个护卫也跟了去。宝玉见黛玉的目光尾随着孩子离去，便笑笑说道：“妹妹也不让我看看他。”黛玉才想起来，刚要让他们回来，宝玉连忙阻止了道：“不要叫了，以后还没有机会再见么？”黛玉默然止住，心里想着“有机会再见”的话。却又听宝玉道：“有一天梦到你，见你站在一个平平的房顶上哭，到处是大风，我真怕把你吹下来。我还觉得这梦太奇怪，后来我听大嫂子说，兰儿给她来信，说是你在那里生了个男孩儿，我才知道梦都是反着的，梦里哭自然是白日笑的。”黛玉低下眼睛叹了口气，刚要说什么，又听宝玉冷幽幽地道：“宝姐姐也刚生了个女儿，前天出的满月，我给她取了个名儿叫芊儿。”黛玉一听，抬眼望了他，心里有一百种味道交织着，思忖着他说的话：宝姐姐生了个女儿，好像那孩子和他无关一样。又想那孩子的名字，就问：“是哪个字？”宝玉道：“草字头下加个千万的千字。”又问黛玉：“你儿子呢？”黛玉愣了一会儿，轻轻答道：“他小名叫万儿。”宝玉听了，两眼呆呆的，说了句：“这名字好。”
两个人都沉默了会儿，同时又都说了句：“你---”，宝玉就笑起来，黛玉也不好意思地笑了笑。宝玉道：“你不知道吧，如今湘云妹妹也在我那里住着。她在冀州的时候嫁了个姓魏的县丞之子，人很俊俏，对云妹妹也好，却是个肺痨，刚嫁了半年多，那人就死了。那一家子就胡赖在云妹妹身上，说她克夫，硬把她撵了出来。我得了信儿，专门跑到冀州接了她来。如今我们大家靠着宗祠里那二十亩薄田也能维持生计。宝姐姐和环儿还在杨柳村那边开了个棉花作坊，给军队做些棉衣，也有些进项。我是个无才无能的，有时到各村子里教些蒙童认几个字，聊以打发时光而已。”黛玉看着他，半天低声道：“你不是无才无能，只是错生了时候，时候也错待了你。”宝玉听了，一下子涌出泪水来，自己用衣袖慢慢擦了，没有说话。就听黛玉有些哽咽地道：“我在大漠那边，有一日也梦到你，和我说了些莫名其妙的话，后来你忽然撇下我就走了，我再也没看到你。”宝玉用手轻抚着桌边的一处凹坑，听了这话，停了手，泪眼望向黛玉，半晌无话。
这时就听雅间之外有些低低的人声和脚步声，黛玉抬眼一望，就见水溶站在门边，凝神望着宝玉。宝玉面向里坐着，似乎觉察到身后的目光，便慢慢站起转身，看到水溶，嘴角牵动了一下，身子跪了下去，道声：“王爷。”水溶连忙伸手搀住他，微笑道：“好久没见到你了，你可好？”宝玉道：“回王爷，我还好，多谢王爷搭救我们，又费心报明皇上赏还了我家宗祠土地，我们全家都在感念王爷的大恩大德。”水溶道：“这话说过了头，本来你我两家都是世交，应该相助的。更何况现在又成了亲戚，若不是牵扯到众多原因，自然还是应该多往来的。”说着，眼望向黛玉，黛玉脸上还含着悲伤，只不接他的目光。宝玉笑着打岔道：“可巧今天在这里碰到你们，我本来要走的，却似乎听见她们的声音，近前来一看果然是她们。”又道：“恭喜王爷得了世子爷。”水溶听了就呵呵笑起来道：“这要谢谢玉儿，多亏了她。我自然是心喜的，但是若得不着，有了她，我也一样欢喜。”这话说完，黛玉的脸上红若桃花，宝玉的脸却煞白如纸。
水溶道：“来来来，咱们俩个浮一大白，也为这两年没见面，也为了如今我们成了姻亲。”说着就让人送酒菜来。黛玉心里乱乱纷纷，不觉就问道：“你不是吃过了么？怎么还---”就听水溶和宝玉同时回答道：“这不是吃饭---”宝玉住了口，水溶也顿了一下，却接着说道：“是饮酒，只饮三杯，你不要担心。”黛玉默然而坐，见酒菜端上来，水溶和宝玉二人皆端起了男人气概，一人一大杯酒，仰头喝下，然后酒菜略吃了一口，接着碰了第二杯。宝玉喝干第二杯，脸色立时变成绯红，摆手笑道：“我于喝酒上终究是平常，王爷知道我喜欢唱曲儿，我可不可以唱上一曲，以助酒兴？”水溶笑道：“那自然好，只不过---”宝玉明白过来，看了一眼黛玉笑道：“王爷不用担心，我知道，我唱的和酒楼上的曲儿不同，没有那些个东西，我只是唱给王爷听。”水溶点点头：“以前你常来我府里做客，我就看你酒量平平，但你们家的诗词歌赋自和别家不同，很好，你且唱来听听。”
宝玉便将那只假汝窑的酒碗放置面前，执了一枝玉白色的筷子，丁丁当当敲了个过门，嘴里轻轻唱了起来：
“等那三春已过，杏子结实又如何？
待这虚景儿灯灭，遥看了天青地阔。
说甚么高楼大厦广，繁花锦绣多？
到头来，都把那馒头落。
则看那，衰杨枯柳人踪去，孤月残风影相和。
更兼着，世人嘲讥冷笑多。
这的是：富贵贫寒皆由命，人来人往筵席过。
似这般，生生死死情劫我。
闻说道，西方宝树唤婆娑，上结着长生果。”
宝玉刚唱完，就听黛玉抽泣了一声，泪落下来。水溶看着黛玉脸色一变，似伤心又似生气，但慢慢地，他的眼色又泛起温和爱怜的波光，伸手抓过黛玉的手，轻轻拍了拍。黛玉用绢子试了眼泪，水溶又倒给她一杯热茶劝她喝下去。宝玉把这些看在眼里，慢慢地微笑了。黛玉道：“你且不要管那些冷言冷语，人都要刚强活着。笑骂皆由人，宁折我不弯，你忘了以前我门前的那些杆竹子了么？”水溶也道：“至于富贵贫穷，不在快活人生的信条里，富贵不见得好，贫穷也有快乐的。还有，你若有什么难处，尽可以去找我。”宝玉呵呵一笑：“你们都错会我的意思了，我不怕别人说什么，也不恋富贵，憎贫穷，我现在反而很欢喜，很心安。”水溶道：“我本来要和你多喝几杯，只因京都里有要事紧急，我们就要去了，以后我和玉儿会请你到我府里来，到时候我们再畅饮一番如何？”宝玉把第三杯酒和水溶叮当一碰，笑道：“到时候再说。”
这里水溶也一饮而尽道：“我赠你一言：无人收废帐，归马识残旗。你若看见前面还有路，千万不要另走他途，只管顺着路来，必可以达到自己的目标。心静人沉着，过去的只管让他过去，不要纪念那么多。”宝玉点点头：“多谢王爷教诲。”水溶微微一笑，牵住黛玉的手，也不和宝玉作别就往外走，黛玉边走边回过头，看着宝玉，宝玉向她笑着点头，眼里含着闪闪的泪花。
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should upload soon...:)
Me too.
MIAO 说了可能等完稿后再贴.
I visited 潇湘网, seems to be good. Can't find it in Tianya though.
1.MIAO MM我实在钦佩你的淡泊明志. 坚决支持这里众JM的提议.请问我可以做什么.
2. WAITING FOR CHAPTER 33.
我早早搬了小板凳坐这里等着，嘿嘿嘿
Could not find it at tianya though.
Great! I have checked your link at 潇湘网. We will help monitoring.
在天涯网上的博克地址是：http://www8.tianya.cn/index.asp?vitem=&idDefaultItem=0&idWriter
=11802461&Key=181482009
顺便说一句，我还不大会在那里发文章。我发现大家的文章是一块儿往上发，不是一个章节一个章节地发，而且那里的作品真的是太多了，发上去一会儿就不见了。国内人才多啊。
在潇湘网上的地址是：http://read.xxsy.net/info/33261.html
这里还好掌握些。
大家若是暑假回国，我还没写完的话，可以上这两个地方去找我，我们又可以说话啦。
Please also tell us the sections you will publish at the two Web sites.
水姐姐尽管贴, 不理会他们的恶言恶语. 我们都支持你!!!
Support!
Jiajia is right. Please let us know and we'll follow to support you there.
"我最近会在潇湘网和天涯网去试一下"
Please let us know when you do it. So that we could help monitoring the sites and gather information so as to decide the best strategy.
You will have to wait until 17...lol. Tuesday.
"大不了给他们个“F”,重修."
-Agree!!! We have a whole bunch of people here. datuzi Mei Mei makes me feel like debating :-) You are right. I do believe that we could handle any abuse.
骂人又算什么？大不了给他们个“F”,重修.
不过，辩论的最高境界决不是骂人吵架的。
miaomiao 您先贴，我们走一步看一步。做最好的争取，做最坏的打算。
妹妹们，千万不可为我和他们争论，他们会骂人的。我不愿意让你们为我受委屈。现在我已经经受了锻炼，我不会再和他们过招了，让他们打空拳好了。“随尔去，任淹留。”网络就是这样，个人无力回天。
听取你们的意见，我准备再回去，不过不在那个晋江了。我最近会在潇湘网和天涯网去试一下。
谢谢你们，诚挚的感谢。
Mei Mei, many thanks for your strong support.
As a matter of fact, as I didn't know about the fight at Jin Jiang earlier, now thinking about it, we should go there to start more discussions. You know, how Dai Yu could have a new life. Of course, we shall do this only if Miao Mei Mei is fine with it.
"可是我宁可不红也不愿意让人骂"
知道您淡泊名利，您写黛玉不是为了红或出名，是为了您心中的黛玉。但是，正是为了黛玉，您不觉得您应该让更多的热爱黛玉的人们圆这个心中的梦吗？我们姐妹们都自愿为了黛玉而论战。您就在后方写文章好了，我们姐妹们上场辩论去。辩论越多，关注的人越多，更多的人们会享受全新的黛玉。
"我们姐妹们组个团杀过去！"
Yes, captain! :-)
You don't have to fight with them. We will fight for you :-)
我想建议现在就把出来的部分登到国内的网站上去----已经那样做啦，在国内的晋江原创网发了20回，后来自己撤下来，现在你到晋江评论上还可以找到骂我的几篇文章。就像你说的我不理他们就好了，越描越黑。不过好像也只有在大网站上发文才能表明了是自己写的。
回复datuzi：前段时间看见国内有人盗用了20回，两个名字都不认识，后来再找就没找到。最近又看到国外某网站大规模盗用海外原创的作者的文章，我这个也在其中，也到32篇了。
网络的虚幻实际上也是人世的现实，真有不合其心意立眉便骂的，我想平常生活中他们肯定是不会这样做。在国内他们认为骂你的文就是抬举你，一骂你就红了，可是我宁可不红也不愿意让人骂。有人为我说话，他们就说是我自说自话，是炒作。这里环境清静文明些，喜欢与理解我的亲爱的读者们一起交流。
我想有那些争执的功夫不如静下心写文章。
妹妹们建议得对。MIAO妹妹，请把抄袭您的作品的网站告诉我们，我们去为您讨公道：找网管，发帖，。。。您应该发动我们大家的力量，效果会来得快一些。
另外，您确实应该开始把您的作品发到国内网站上去。想想看，如果您吸引到1%的国内网站读者，您的读者群该会有多么壮大！批评吗，青菜萝卜，各有所爱，很难有什么东西满足所有人的胃口。您是为喜欢黛玉自强的人们圆梦的。走自己的路，让别人去说吧。再说了，下次有人敢骂您，请悄悄话告诉我们，我们姐妹们组个团杀过去！
Half is better than nothing. Please.........
大家觉得这个办法如何？我只能想到这个点子了。
support!
What an ugly person he/she is! Miao, could you please let us know your story was posted in which website, we can tell the truth to the readers there, and let that guy be ashamed of him/herself for doing that
"前段时间看见有网站贴俺的文，就是把俺的名儿改了一下，姐妹朋友们有啥好法子教教我防止这类事件发生。"
谁有好主意？我觉得至少，miaomiao要给那个网管写信，告诉他们那时没经过你同意的，更没有授权。必须道歉，或撤稿，或你重新贴。
关于春假，我们还是等17日看全章吧。别打扰您的思路。唉，反正大半的日子都熬过了。。。
Please please please...Waiting desperately.
要不我先把写好的半部贴上？看到大家这样热心地等待，俺心里觉得很不好意思。
前段时间看见有网站贴俺的文，就是把俺的名儿改了一下，姐妹朋友们有啥好法子教教我防止这类事件发生。
嗨，这个假期自己也没轻松了，反而让你们---也没轻松，真对不起。
"看到wumiao在海外原创回了几个贴，还以为这里指不定也有惊喜了呢"
那是miaomiao在散步。。。
这个日子啊，怎么就这么难过馁？
这个等待啊，怎么就这么熬人馁？
这个。我说啊。。怎么居然还有4天多馁？！！！
4 days and a half :-(
17日，下完课就可以看啦, backcount: 4 days left！
-母亲们的“通病” :-) 黛玉活过来那些时候，真是一个很好的增进他们夫妻感情的机会。两个人全心全意地为对方担心，黛玉怀着7个半月的身孕，站在房顶上遥望半个多小时，难产差点死掉 (贾兰跑去前线只是最后一根稻草);水溶立下一生中最大的血誓.何其感人!
水溶其实很可以利用那个时候和黛玉谈谈,但是他太爱黛玉,只是宠着黛玉,理解她初做母亲的心。
Miao Mei Mei will spend this week with her family, as her two kids are having spring break. Also, she really deserves a vacation.
If you feels difficult for this week, try to post your comments here. Share with us your thoughts. That will be fun; also making this week easier :-)
“血誓” 那章真是揪人心肺。黛玉 醒来后或满月之后她二人似乎就应该谈一谈， 让彼此了解自己因为牵挂对方多月来所受的煎熬。虽然黛玉一下“全心都在万儿身上”，但是“与水溶再携手回房去”的多个晚上， 还是应该有机会的。也许真让他们谈过(或让我们听到)，我们对他们的信心会更大 (especially just after reading this chapter), 也不会有这么多讨论了。
datuzi 说得好: "miaomiao 的心思和文章 are very unique." 我只有佩服的份。
我是100% Daiyu and miao's fan. 对水溶，自然爱屋及乌,他就是黛玉现在的幸福所在.
cannot agree more.
不是说水溶不好,而是说这两段爱情各自不同,是一个女人成长过程中的经历和自生的变化的反映.爱上水溶, 不等于对宝玉可以从此一笔勾销,怎麽可能?不是为了宝玉,DAIYU也不会在玉舍住那麽久, 而给了水溶机会. 爱上了水溶, 不等于不可以保留这样一个知己.
------说得对。无论黛玉多爱水溶都好，水溶取代不了宝玉，同样宝玉也不能，他们在黛玉的人生中各自扮演著不同的角色。
“她当然不会再选择宝玉,但是会在心里为他留下永恒的位子. 而且他不会再获得幸福了,这更让她难过”------如果宝玉是幸福的，我相信此时的宝黛相会将是另一种光景。情愿宝玉永远生活在自己的梦中，头脑清醒了，心却开始滴血。有妻有女又如何？幸福自他娶宝钗哪一刻开始就不属於他。他的幸福是需要与黛玉共同编织，但这时的黛玉已经甚麽都不能给他，他已经是别人的妻子和母亲。黛玉就是清楚地知道这一点，所以她才觉得更加难过。
另外，觉得离开大观园的黛玉，不会再选择宝玉，跟爱不爱宝玉没有关系。当初是贾家遗弃了她，选择宝钗的。黛玉是骄傲的，“呼之则来，挥之则去”不是她的性格。她选择以另外一种方式来爱他，就是回到南边，陪在父母“身边”，守著宝玉的诺言，让一切成为最好美的回忆。至於後来爱上水溶，是她始料不及的。
赞同DAIYU帮助水莹和清泰.
"只想说任何人都是经不起一切考验的，哪怕心里有真爱,如果老是没有希望，心也会淡的。"
sissidream MM, you are completely 100% Shui Rong's fan now.
"感情这个东西，有时说不明白。"
Agree! That might explain why Dai Yu was so attracted to Bao Yu.
"她还要帮助别人走爱情的道路"
I guess Shui Ying. Shui Ying is going to get married soon remember? in 1-2 months, it's time to make a bomb!
"只想说任何人都是经不起一切考验的，哪怕心里有真爱,如果老是没有希望，心也会淡的。"
Agree. Hope this would not happen on Shui Rong.
Also, Dai Yu almost died when she worried for Shui Rong. I don't believe it is not love. Just she herself didn't realize it. Shui Rong should feel it, though.
"她还要帮助别人走爱情的道路"
Hope this someone else doesn't mean Bao Yu. If she helps Shui Ying, making Shui Ying realizes how much Qing Tai loves her (maybe she never realized that before), that would be sweet. But then how about her fiance?
MMs, want to join in my guess?
谢谢miaomiao.
只想说任何人都是经不起一切考验的，哪怕心里有真爱,如果老是没有希望，心也会淡的。
黛玉一定会继续走自己的路，她还要帮助别人走爱情的道路，只是：前途是光明的，道路是曲折的。感情这个东西，有时说不明白。17号那天11点我给你们答复。
感谢大家，鞠躬。
Love this one!
So let me say it out loud here again: "How about let 水溶 give up finally and let 黛玉 and 宝玉 both go back to the paradise forever..." and how about never let Daiyu love Shurong full hearted? and how about they (Dai and Shuirong) will never happily live together?
非常同意,MIAO这段描述得非常好.黛玉如今对宝玉和对水溶的情是不一样的.黛玉的表现并不会伤及对水溶的感情.水溶也最终明白了.
谢谢MIAO把水溶写得如此通情达理.很感谢终于有人给了林妹妹一个知冷知热的保护伞!
>>>"mm是在说气话吧!"
You are right! I hate to see that happen. miaomiao 的心思和文章 are very unique, she won't take the ending that somebody says it out.
While I understand all the discussion that we are having here on those three, I still feel that Dai Yu overacted a little bit, which makes Shui Rong's love stands out. When looking ahead, how I wish Dai Yu and Shui Rong could open heart to each other earlier, definitely NOT in the last chapter!
mm是在说气话吧!
黛玉如今若真能抛夫弃子，那就真是仙而非人了！可是既然来到凡间， 就多享受一下凡人之乐又何妨！ 不然真的只好和宝玉到天上去。因为他二人连一同出家也是不可能的。
很赞同拥林及万年月等的观点。 宝玉这样的男人，论才不及黛钗，论责任感不及自己的亲姐妹元春探春， 还不是一心一意只爱黛玉，他们的故事出了大观园，怎样继续？
MM太偏激了.谁的初恋不是铭心刻骨,何况是大观园里这段旷世情缘? 两玉之间的过去的深沉的爱会让他们成为永生的知己.这是建立在共同的思想基础和两小无猜的青少年生活之上的.和对水溶不同.
不是说水溶不好,而是说这两段爱情各自不同,是一个女人成长过程中的经历和自生的变化的反映.爱上水溶, 不等于对宝玉可以从此一笔勾销,怎么可能?不是为了宝玉,DAIYU也不会在玉舍住那么久, 而给了水溶机会. 爱上了水溶, 不等于不可以保留这样一个知己.
我非常理解DAIYU的动情.他们的爱情不是自己死亡, 而是命运作弄后的牺牲品.如果不抄家而他们能在一起,想必也幸福.
世界上没有完美的东西,现在DAIYU才终于明白,她要得到和放弃什么.她当然不会再选择宝玉,但是会在心里为他留下永恒的位子. 而且他不会再获得幸福了,这更让她难过.
藕短丝连,发HU情,止HU礼,这里表现得非常恰当.赞.
Can't agree more with datuzi about Daiyu's decision of getting married. It's completely clear nobody forced her into it. And I can't see the motivation behind her entering this marriage if not for love, because I can't imagine how she could sepreate her soul from body. So how can she still loves BaoYu? (In Gone with the Wind, Scarlett married Rhett Butler for his money, and she never tried to hide this. That explained why she could still love Ashley after becoming Rhett's wife.) If she still loves BaoYu, she should stay single to wait for her chance to become BaoYu's wife.
Three people in a marriage will be too crowded, period. Any decent person can only love one person at a time. '一个LG和一个情人' scenario only means the cheating wife doesn't want to leave the money, social status or other benefits coming with the marriage.
About BaoYu, I have to borrow 万年月MM's comment from her article:'一个只会风花雪月，无病呻吟的假宝玉，根本就是对社会、对任何人都毫无益处的.' 宝玉不是曹雪芹. He never wants to take any responsibility. I will not forget that BaoYu caused 金钏的死 and he fled away from the scene.
"还是觉得对水溶太残忍。本来他们经历了这么多， 虽然“衷情” 似乎总只有他一人在表，但黛玉动情的表现的描述也不算太少， 绝不会想到她会如此失态。 她不是从 “百合”一节起就要走自己的路， 过自己的生活了么？"
Agree! I even feel a little bit disappointed somehow after reading this chapter. 黛玉 was very confused, and she met 宝玉 BEFORE and 宝玉 is recovered. Now I almost lose confidence in 水溶 after they shared great difficulites and joys in northwest.
How about let 水溶 give up finally and let 黛玉 and 宝玉 both go back to the paradise forever... sigh
说真的,匆匆忙忙,迫不急待的读了第一遍,心一下紧了：林妹妹如此不能忘情，看来要全心爱上水溶太难; 这样一来我们盼她真正幸福快乐的希望不是要落空了么？
仔细拜读各位留言，真是大有所获，同意宝玉是要出家，我第一遍硬是没看出来！谢谢！这样也就说得过去了。
还是觉得对水溶太残忍。本来他们经历了这么多， 虽然“衷情” 似乎总只有他一人在表，但黛玉动情的表现的描述也不算太少， 绝不会想到她会如此失态。 她不是从 “百合”一节起就要走自己的路， 过自己的生活了么？我还以为宝玉已成为妹妹心底一个美好而心酸的回忆了呢！ 再一次不得不对妙妹妹的心思和文章佩服！
总觉得现在真要让林妹妹幸福，只能让他们夫妻心灵相通，生死以共。妙， 什么时候才能再让他们互诉一回衷肠，真正“互诉”啊！ 可别让我们等到最后一节啊！
感谢WUMIAO的一枝妙笔，让水溶在短短一年时间里（顶不了天上一天吧），赢得了众多FANS。现在包括宝哥哥在内，都祝愿他成功到底。不过他先天不足，后天又落后宝哥哥十几年，虽然占居有利地形，多努力栽培还是应该的。水溶的广大FANS们，饮水思源一下，宝哥哥正落难，目前议论他能不能养活林妹妹，有没用，会不会挣银子，不合适。至与浊还是清， 跟宝钗一起伺候宝玉,更扯不上。 俺算是理解了，林妹妹落着泪，对宝哥哥道：“你且不要管那些冷言冷语，人都要刚强活着。笑骂皆由人，宁折我不弯，你忘了以前我门前的那些杆竹子了么？”.....
俺再八卦一哈，水溶的两个妾不也死了疯了，他还是个王爷呢。宝哥哥没那么多历史使命吧。这是命和无奈.
DAIYU又何尝不是这样.
他是那个时代的反叛儿, 是众多姐妹眼中的英雄,保护神哩 ---
他是打心眼里爱护著大观园的女儿，但他的保护只是精神上的，实质上他谁也保护不了，金钏跳井死了、司棋和晴雯被赶了出去。他只能偒心和流泪。
"Still spent too much time typing Chinese."
Yeah, me too. Need to recover Chinese input first before I could get back to discussion. These two days every time I tried to join in, and then gave up. I need a big chunk of time before I could type in all Chinese word. Tried WU BI today, forgot a lot :-(
如果挣钱养家是浊世，我实在是不对宝玉有什么恭维的。三十六计，走为上计，谁不会？
相反的，我到敬佩水溶的出浊世而不染。
黛玉有了爱和富贵，有什么不好不够的吗？难道只有爱才是最高尚的吗?
宝玉一句"女孩儿是水做的"，比”妇女能顶半边天“还厉害，让无数大观园里的小姐丫头”竞折腰“，也让后来的姐妹信心百倍！
如果可以把感情分成精神的和世俗的，黛玉可以毫不费劲地找到他们。
黛玉和宝玉情深义重，为何又嫁给水溶？同意jiajia分析的。试想贾家已倒，只要黛玉坚决不同意水溶，她心里明明白白（可不像宝玉糊里糊涂娶了宝钗），黛玉是有可能等到再嫁给宝玉的。王夫人会不同意？她肯定同意，因为黛玉救了她。黛玉可以做侧妃，为什么不可以跟宝钗一起伺候宝玉？她为何不把未来押在正在康复的宝玉身上，而是放在她只认识几个月的水溶？
走出大观园后，种种事端，黛玉开始把宝玉当作她未了的心愿了，她可能不会意识到usefulness,但她亲手给水溶一个爱的机会。谁也没有逼她嫁人的，是黛玉自己决定重新生活的。
--八、听琴： ”黛玉冷冷道：“我为他，泪流干了，名声也出去了，把该做的做完，也就不欠什么了。”
--十六、百合： “如今我已经不再埋怨东风了，更不自嗟，活一天，我便活出我的样子来，活不了，忍淹留，我自凭尔去。”
但我总觉得宝黛让人感觉余情未了，是因为他们的情意真正是很纯洁美好的（也是温室里的）。黛玉梦见宝玉也是因为心愿未了的。所以黛玉迟迟没有发现自己对水溶的感情转变。衷心希望miao大人让黛玉从身心上爱上水溶，真不希望从这里看到”忧伤中的快乐“。
p/s Still spent too much time typing Chinese.
说出了我的心里话,为宝玉心酸难过.说了喜欢DAIYU：“你不是无才无能，只是错生了时候，时候也错待了你。”评价他的话,
同意.
刚回来读了32章, 又见到各位妹妹的的评论,精彩的很呢.
初读红楼是卅年前的事, 那时就喜欢黛玉和宝玉, "宁为玉碎,不为瓦全"(maio, 这里,俺为妙玉打不平, 她也是这类的,怎会苟且偷生沦为小妾?.不过俺明白着呢,这是红楼外的故事么),俺为他们流了多少泪呢
宝玉咋NO USE 了,他是那个时代的反叛儿, 是众多姐妹眼中的英雄,保护神哩. 没错, 他不爱老腐子们,他爱众多姐姐妹妹, 俺就爱他"女孩儿是水做的"这句.
看maio 这章, 这俩玉还是梦中都有你我的呢, 万儿,芊儿, 多好啊. miao 一定会有文章为这第二代的吧? 俺喜欢这节. 可也为了宝玉心酸流泪,他一定不可以与这污世同存的.
是这样,喜欢的人,就希望她过得好,至少能配上她的才华.如同李纨在珠兰一章里说的,我早说你是个有福的，你那时在家里就不明白。你心底外貌才气都是老天赐的，若得不到最好的人，不说我们，就连老天爷也伤心的
4). yeah, just like our author. Working in a restaurant during day time, and writing this fictioin at night.
Don't get me wrong. 我钦佩作者的才华。我想如果她可以不工作，天天在家引诗做画，岂不更好？所以我希望黛玉还是和水溶在一起。
宝玉是写不出石头记的。他是一个如果衣食不能忧的人。有钱还好，如果无钱，就出家。就现代人看来（起码我看来），不是仙风道骨，而是不负责任。
女孩子，男朋友可以是坏男孩（当然宝玉不坏，只是叛逆），嫁人还是得是好男人。我想黛玉潜意思就是如此。
宝玉咋NO USE 了， 去写《石头记》， 永远活在红迷的心里。
"在现实生活中，还是水溶这样的男人吃得香"
水溶迄今为至，不就给了林妹妹一点人间的爱受和富贵嘛。也附带了多少富贵的精神压力，为了追求精神自由，还要跑到大西北。 问题是林妹妹属于仙界，和我们人间的人思想不一样。穷点咋了，不行就回仙界呗。
水溶身上有那么多的羁袢，哼哼, 好好努力吧。
回复jiajia07的评论:
"To date we have already got 7 pages of discussions for this chapter........."
气喘地说，俺有点跟不上了，决定留一级。
still cannot install. But sevenforks.com is better than inputking. and jiajia might try to use 五笔字型 there. Thanks a bunch.
在设置里面把你的email地址输入进去，应该就可以。
另外，除了google的拼音输入法以外，还有一个online Chinese input tool，http://www.sevenforks.com，用这个你什么都不用安装，而且还可以选择全拼，双拼，和五笔字型输入法，好像有一位网友问过在哪里可以找到五笔字型输入法，这里就有。那jiajia的电脑不能安装任何中文输入软件的话（没有记错吧，是jiajia吧？），也可以试试这个网上的工具，不过电脑再死机可别怪我呀。呵呵。
《红楼梦》我读得真是稀里糊涂，一直以为“香融金谷酒，花媚玉堂人”是黛玉写给元妃的呢。---
mm，你没记错啊！只是我觉得是水溶将“花媚玉堂人”引申为对黛玉的描写。
Bao Yu is of no use in real life. He only lives on the wealthy life his family gave to him. So he was enjoying playing with many many girls in the garden.
Shui Rong, on the other hand, took the responsibility for serving his country since 20 years old. He is much respectful.
同意！的确，他们俩是很不同类型的男人，宝玉是个大不透的大男孩，他很简单，只希望守著林妹妹，永远生活在没有风雨的大观园里。
但水溶却不一样，他在朝廷打滚近10年，年纪轻轻便有今日的地位，不是单靠父荫、和母亲的庇护，还有更多的是自己的真本领，文武全才、有勇有谋，所以这个男人并不简单。在文中大家看得最多的是他温柔多情的一面，对妻儿温柔体贴（只限玉儿和万儿），对母亲孝顺、对妹妹爱护有加。但政治是无情的，心慈手软的人绝不适合玩政治，所以他应该还有另一面，可能在稍後的宫廷斗争中，就能见到。
在现实生活中，还是水溶这样的男人吃得香。
其实感情这东西,不是1加1的数学.命运帮DAIYU做出抉择,而非爱情.
2.水溶当然直到抄家才认识的DAIYU,之前是仰慕而向往,尽力搜罗关于她的信息,也属正常.BAOYU再傻,未必会对外人倾吐自己的感情隐私,毕竟要为DAIYU的名声着想.可能酒后稍微流露一些爱意,对DAIYU自然比对别的JM更加推崇,水溶傻瓜就陷进去了. 那个时代,女子无才便是德,有个才女,哪个高明的男人不爱呢?
3.这里想到一个漏洞.水溶只比DAIYU大八岁,不可能和DAIYU的父亲生前有任何交往.所以前面DAIYU的某些关于他是父亲故交的推测很荒谬,请MIAOMEIMEI怎样改一改.
4.虽然大家都爱DAIYU,想给她一个好的结局,总还是感到失落.这样的女孩子,在那个社会里,是没有出路的.所以要她生存下去,只能变成宝钗.无奈ING.如果生在今天,该是如何活色生香的精彩.
《红楼梦》我读得真是稀里糊涂，一直以为“香融金谷酒，花媚玉堂人”是黛玉写给元妃的呢。
--bye, see you folks tomorrow. (zzzz...)
Nice 3 comments regarding "就听水溶和宝玉同时回答道：...".
I guess I am wrong. In , Bao Yu only likes a few men. One of them is 水溶. 水溶 is perfect from the beginning.
"反正水溶很早就留心黛玉"
-Ding!
"Chapter 4”林姑娘的病一直都没有好么?还是咳嗽的这样厉害”
In fact, he knows it very well."
-Ding! Wonder how Shui Rong knows about it? Kind of suspect that Bao Yu would have told him anything about Dai Yu. Then how did he know about that?
"哪能”光知道名字”? 至少还知道林妹妹的病。"
---lol. Nice comment!
"说实话跟黛玉其它的诗词比起来，“香融金谷酒，花媚玉堂人”都算不上顶好的，也不知水溶为何记住了它。"
--Because he was thinking and guessing and imagining, "我就想你会是个什么样的人呢？" Then, "后来看到你，呵呵，好个花媚玉堂人，不只花媚，更具玉质。我就想，就是你了，就是你了。" Seems that his original imagination was quite right :-)
""关於水溶识宝玉的目的，如果加上阴谋论的话，那就会变得很可怕"
Not necessarily. If we like someone's work (like Dai Yu's poems), we might want to get close to his/her friend. A little 阴谋, not that 可怕 :-)
“香融金谷酒，花媚玉堂人”都算不上顶好的，也不知水溶为何记住了它。---或许应该说流传出去的，水溶都记住了。或者是水溶将“花媚玉堂人”当成是黛玉的写照。
水溶第一次见黛玉是抄家的时候吗？---印象之中应该是，之前只有北静王妃等几个王妃夫人见过她们几个姐妹。连薛蟠这个远亲，都是在宝玉病时，乘混乱见过。
"关於水溶识宝玉的目的，如果加上阴谋论的话，那就会变得很可怕，还好这文叫“林黛玉和北静王”，北静王是忠的，不要怕，不要怕"
Right! He used to like Bao Yu very much and persistently until his marriage with Dai Yu. 水溶正面说是很成熟，反面说就是成府很深了。It's great that miaomiao made him an idol here.
反正水溶很早就留心黛玉：
Chapter 4”林姑娘的病一直都没有好么?还是咳嗽的这样厉害”
In fact, he knows it very well.
chapter 21 "我以前光知道你的名字，你们在贾妃省亲的时候做的那些诗都流传出来，那时我看见你的那首叫什么《世外仙源》的有一句：香融金谷酒，花媚玉堂人，"
哪能”光知道名字”? 至少还知道林妹妹的病。
说实话跟黛玉其它的诗词比起来，“香融金谷酒，花媚玉堂人”都算不上顶好的，也不知水溶为何记住了它。
chapter 21 “我就想你会是个什么样的人呢？后来看到你，"
水溶第一次见黛玉是抄家的时候吗？俺２０最近一次看《红楼梦》是２０年前了，谁给补补课？先谢谢了。
黛玉和“玉”字很有缘，出征时碰到妙玉，回京时遇到宝玉，这大观园的三块玉，虽同为金玉之质，但结局却各异。
关於黛玉对水溶称呼的变化，可能就是她内心的变化，由最初的救命恩人“王爷”，变成如今和自己平等的“你”。西北一行，没有了王府的繁文缛节，有的只是“老爷、夫人”，在那里他们是一对平常的小夫妻。
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黛玉心里乱乱纷纷，不觉就问道：“你不是吃过了麽？怎麽还---”就听水溶和宝玉同时回答道：“这不是吃饭---”宝玉住了口，水溶也顿了一下，却接著说道：“是饮酒，只饮三杯，你不要担心。”
1. 水溶和宝玉都对黛玉情有独锺，说明他们都是同一类人，连回答都是一模一样，同时也恭喜水溶，证明他已经和宝玉看齐，提升到知己的层面。
2. 水溶和宝玉都想成为黛玉最关心的人，水溶的反应很自然，毕竟他们是两夫妻，但宝玉就有些反应不过来，还当在以前的大观园，还好他停得快。不然的话，场面就会很尴尬。
3. 宝玉住了口，水溶接著道。如果这是场比赛，是否表示两个资质相近选手，开始时势均力敌，後来一个无奈退出，另一个坚持到底成为最终的胜利者。
I know exactly what you mean. I think you made a very fun joke. I like it :-)
Thanks a lot for clarifying the "joke" I made about buying the paintings and poems. That was exactly what I mean. You posted so many comments and I am lost tracking it.:)
---"黛玉抬眼一望，就见水溶站在门边，凝神望着宝玉。"
----Will Dai Yu have some reaction?
Yes, she might feel embarrassed, as miao pointed out later '黛玉心里乱乱纷纷".
Will Dai Yu have some reaction?
So Dai Yu doesn't need to 回到天上去了?
"宝玉微笑道：“我等着你，咱们一会儿都要到天上去的，别忘了。”"
"回头看宝玉，身后早已经空无一人。四野茫茫，只有那一痕蓝色平线横亘天际，悬着半片薄如纸片般的落日。黛玉心慌乱如麻，身心象撕裂了般苦痛。宝玉呢？他怎么可以自己走了呢？他不管我了么？"
"正这时忽然就听有人在自己背后笑嘻嘻又低低地说了句：“为了他你再回去吧---”说着用力在她背后一推，"
-Who pushed Dai Yu? Is it Bao Yu? "为了他你再回去吧", this who is Shui Rong? Since Shui Rong is preying for Dai Yu to come back?
"黛玉 always addresses 水溶 "你" instead of "王爷" now"
Agree! Thanks for pointing out.
"黛玉让水溶牵了手，和紫鹃抱着孩子走进一个名叫“晋升”的客栈。"
How could 黛玉 do this, carry Wan Er with 紫鹃? shall we switch "和" and '让",---
"黛玉和水溶牵了手，让紫鹃抱着孩子走进一个名叫“晋升”的客栈。"
Did you folks notice that 黛玉 always addresses 水溶 "你" instead of "王爷" now? She is changing, but she does not have chance to sit down and think about it.
"我觉得此次见面促成了宝玉出家。宝玉可能一直有出家的念头，但他有牵挂，那就是他的林妹妹."
Agree, now Bao Yu leaves in peace.
Also include the love between Bao Yu and Dai Yu. This sentence is to Bao Yu, also to Dai Yu.
"那宝刀是不是完成历史使命啦？还是紫娟拿着它吗？"
Second. Waiting to see.
"有趣的是，黛玉吃软不吃硬 （总被真情熔化），水溶吃硬不吃软（怕死了那剪刀）。 miaomiao是不是又得让这小俩口谈谈啦？"
Cannot agree with you more! "黛玉吃软不吃硬，水溶吃硬不吃软" Really reflects the situation between the two. "黛玉情坚似钢铁，也几乎被这个男人的眼泪熔化成绕指柔", 水溶"听罢，颓然坐下，喃喃道：“姑娘有此烈性，我原该知道", and "怕死了那剪刀".
That's the only way the two can finally get together, in their soul level. This is really how convincing Dai Yu could change her love to Shui Rong eventually, even though "黛玉情坚似钢铁".
"miaomiao是不是又得让这小俩口谈谈啦?" datuzi Mei Mei is so sweet! Miao Mei Mei, maybe we would see some deep talk between them two in the near future?
"我觉得此次见面促成了宝玉出家。宝玉可能一直有出家的念头，但他有牵挂，那就是他的林妹妹."
Your thoughts triggered my more thoughts, thanks :-)
After this meeting, Bao Yu knows that his 林妹妹 really doesn't belong to him any longer. Before, maybe, I say maybe, still deep in his heart, he might still dream of getting back with 林妹妹. (I guess everyone may have the same hope under similar situations.) He definitely knows how deeply his 林妹妹 and him loves with EACH OTHER.
But now, as Shui Rong has expressed so clearly in front of him, his 林妹妹 has become 水溶的玉儿，"林妹妹已完全不属於自己了". Moreover, 水溶 really loves 黛玉 so much.
So for Bao Yu, there is nothing in this world that would keep him here. All his hope, his dream, his everything (Dai Yu), his love, don't belong to him any longer. Then why he would still stay in this world. There is only one way in front of him. He is out of any hope. It's time for him to leave.
记得海棠花妹妹曾经评水溶“很man"，他现在既要面对宫里的不测风云，又要牵挂黛玉（及儿子），不简单啊。
有趣的是，黛玉吃软不吃硬 （总被真情熔化），水溶吃硬不吃软（怕死了那剪刀）。 miaomiao是不是又得让这小俩口谈谈啦？
而且， miaomiao的写作一直很注意细节的（当然现在写得急，不能面面俱到）。她把黛玉，水溶和宝玉安排在这里（离京城不远）偶然相逢，肯定有涵义。一来正如我们讨论的，把三人的感情归路做个铺垫；另外是不是也暗示着接下来的宫里家里的明争暗斗跟以前没有多大关系了呢？
那宝刀是不是完成历史使命啦？还是紫娟拿着它吗？
"他想通过宝玉，对他那位才貌双全的表妹多些认识。"
Agree with this layer. But at that time, everyone knew that Dai Yu would marry Bao Yu. I kind of doubt Shui Rong would use this method to get close to Dai Yu. But Dai Yu's outstanding talent might be one important reason why he looked Bao Yu even with more appreciation.
Since Miao Mei Mei hid a clue in that chapter, I guess sooner or later Miao Mei Mei will explain, in some way.
"水溶对黛玉的一举一动，他都看在眼里，没有嫉妒、没有眼泪，只有微笑。"
I guess 嫉妒 still exists. But Shui Rong is a real man. He knows that Dai Yu and Bao Yu's love story happened even before he met Dai Yu. Also, Dai Yu has been treating him better and better. Especially, Dai Yu worried for him so much while he was in battle, which almost killed herself (with the baby). He has nothing much to be jealous about. But of course, he is a man, he loves Dai Yu so much and he wants to be the only man in Dai Yu's heart. That's very understandable. So he chooses to give Dai Yu more understanding and time and space. He believes that his love will make Dai Yu loves him only, eventually.
"而且他也看到水溶小小的“醋意”，所以他要唱支曲儿给水溶听，告诉水溶自己将要走的路。"
Agree with 海棠花 Mei Mei's explanation. Bao Yu wants to release Shui Rong.
"Inputking.com has Chinese input system online"
Thanks for your information. I just tried a little. Seems not a good input system. Pretty rudimentary. Just my primitive impression. I will try to find a way as soon as possible.
Regarding ""selling paintings, poems? 恐怕水溶把那些字画都买了吧"
实话说，俺看了不太舒服."
I think what datuzi Mei Mei wanted to say is that, Shui Rong loves Dai Yu. If Dai Yu married Bao Yu, he would "把画都买了", trying his best to help. Although I don't know how many guys in the current world (or just in the world) would have that broad heart to do that). Most likely, they feel sad, and turn to other things. Nobody can blame them. Because they don't have to hurt their own hearts all the time. If one cannot get his/her loved one, he/she needs to search for his/her life.
Cannot agree more with your "活得清清白白". Not only Dai Yu, Shui Rong also 活得清清白白. He even risks his life to fight for his country. Nobody can deny that he 活得清清白白.
"水溶再能，玉儿现在还是个副老婆，还得不时受点气，还要连累被暗杀。他也没办法."
He was married, signed by the king, before he even met Dai Yu. Also, his wife is the queen's niece. Yes, he still owes Dai Yu, and that's Miao Mei Mei's job to solve the problem for all of us! :-) In general, that's not Shui Rong's fault. At least, since Dai Yu married Shui Rong, he has shown to everyone he ONLY loves Dai Yu.
－－ "selling paintings, poems? 恐怕水溶把那些字画都买了吧"
俺本意不是指富贵品贱的，想说水溶对黛玉的包容。当玩笑看吧。
完全同意“活得清清白白”。我一直觉得无论富贵品贱都可以“淡泊以明志，宁静以致远”的，生活的经历可以让人趴下去，也能让人站起来。
－－“ 水溶再能，玉儿现在还是个副老婆，还得不时受点气，还要连累被暗杀。他也没办法。瞧他牛的，把画都买了。”
哈哈，同意！ 这个问题就交给 wumiao大人了！
"我想黛玉是已经爱上水溶了, 在前面的百合一回已经完全明确"
I agree that Dai Yu has started to fall in love with Shui Rong. However, I think even up to now, she herself was not that sure, or she never really analyzes her feelings.
"在前面的百合一回已经完全明确" - I have some different opinions :-) I think at that chapter, Dai Yu is:
(1) very touched by Shui Rong's love, "才知道一个男人竟然也可以哭成这样", "黛玉情坚似钢铁，也几乎被这个男人的眼泪熔化成绕指柔" (please pay attention to the word 几乎 Miao Mei Mei used), "黛玉的心迷朦狂乱".
(2) very moved by Shui Rong's strength, "黛玉听了，心情难以形容，原来婚姻在至情至真的人那里也可以自己作主的，那座看不见的大山原也可以翻过去。" Please pay attention to "原来婚姻在至情至真的人那里也可以自己作主的". From experience with Bao Yu, Dai Yu thought 婚姻 cannot 自己作主, even Bao Yu, the guy, cannot. However, Shui Rong "至情至真", he "可以自己作主". It was the first time Dai Yu knows this possibility, especially this was the forever pain in her heart - she almost decided to commit suiside because of it. Now she sees that Shui Rong "可以自己作主". Right away her heart was convinced.
(3) was pushed by the environment. Shui Rong's concerns are exactly what she is worrying about, "不愿意再让她来羞辱你，也怕别人会另样儿看你". Dai Yu is a BING QING YU JIE DE GUI ZU NV ZI, Shui Rong's wife insulted her very much. To some degree, marrying Shui Rong is the only road for her, as she said, she tried to kill herself, she tried to flee away, but neither worked.
The most important thing is definitely Shui Rong's true love. It is not only just from his word, Dai Yu did accidentally hear Shui Rong's words in front of the wall. And she already knows that, as in Chapter "十、玉成", "黛玉心中明白，原来他经常到这里来隔墙听黛玉弹琴，怪不得那天他能说出自己那首刚谱出的《凤凰涅磐》的意思来。") As "当晚紫鹃连连长叹道：“王爷是真心的...” Dai Yu is very clear and certain about Shui Rong's heart and his love to her.
In addition, In Chapter "十三、沧桑", "黛玉闻言大吃一惊，自己孤陋寡闻，也从不打听，原来北静王有这么大的魅力和来历，而北静王水溶也从未在她面前多说过任何的话。对比之下，黛玉心里又对他添了一份敬佩之情，更不用说先前救出宝玉的感激之意，再加上当日和今日的救命之恩，如此种种，让黛玉心绪繁乱，精神不宁。"
And, finally, in Chapter "九、欲绝", Dai Yu promised Shui Rong if he could save Bao Yu, "“我愿为奴婢，到王府伺候王爷。”" Although Shui Rong never threatened her because of this, in Dai Yu's heart, she owes Shui Rong. "如王爷肯帮忙，黛玉愿肝脑涂地，绝不辞也。”", "黛玉道：“我已经说了，王爷若能帮助把宝玉等人放出，我的话一定做数。”". Dai Yu never eats her words.
So, based on all of these reasons, Dai Yu agreed upon Shui Rong's proposal. I kind of think at that moment, Dai Yu didn't fall in love with Shui Rong, YET.
I tried to install '谷歌拼音输入法'. It did not come up when I use google. Is it because my operation system is in English? Any ideas?
回复jiajia:
Inputking.com has Chinese input system online, you do not have to install. Check it out and see if you like it.
"麻烦大家尽量用中文好不好？"
Sorry for the inconvenience. I did try to use Chinese. However, my laptop had some issues a couple of months ago, and I couldn't use Chinese input any longer. Every time I tried, my machine will crash and I will have to restart. A couple of weeks ago, I tried to recover Chinese input for typing Chinese for my parents' convenience, my operating system registries were screwed up and it took me two days to recover to a workable environment. I think, if I really spend some time, I could get it fixed. But, I will get a new laptop very soon, and I can reinstall the machine. So spending a lot of time on my current laptop seems unworthy. At current time, I am just like walking at the ege of ice while I use my laptop; and I cannot afford not having the laptop for my work.
So XDJMs, I will try to get back to Chinese input as soon as possible. Many sorry for the temporary inconvenience.
有同感，俺现在头还有点晕。但还是佩服，提议再设一个楼外园地耕耘奖。
回复datuzi的评论:
"selling paintings, poems? 恐怕水溶把那些字画都买了吧"
实话说，俺看了不太舒服。 卖画卖字，穷困潦倒怎麽了？还是活得清清白白，有时，这是命，谁也没办法。曹公一生大部分时光都是穷困潦倒，为糊口卖画卖字也干过。但留下了旷世绝作《红楼梦》。一个红学养了多少人，多少人为之如痴如醉。现在还研究不清楚。咋能说没用。
如果当时可以做主，黛玉知道这结果也一定会嫁给宝玉。不然就不是林妹妹了。搞得大家现在很不忍，呕心沥血要给她造一个幸福的结局。到现在还为她要不要伺候吃饭操心。
水溶再能，玉儿现在还是个副老婆，还得不时受点气，还要连累被暗杀。他也没办法。瞧他牛的，把画都买了。
对不起， 下次一定注意。：）
平日我用的是“InputKing在线中文输入系统”， 要不就在miao或者大家文里找词， 有些花时间。“谷歌拼音输入法”是不是要用中文系统才好使用？
很同意你那段关於宝玉出家，及黛玉一步一回头的理解。
我觉得此次见面促成了宝玉出家。宝玉可能一直有出家的念头，但他有牵挂，那就是他的林妹妹，他心中依然记挂著妹妹。不然的话，当水溶当著他的面，表白对黛玉的爱时，宝玉的脸不会变得“煞白如纸”。如今，林妹妹已完全不属於自己了，既然自己己不能给她带来幸福，所以他选择放手，彻彻底底地放手。而且他也看到水溶小小的“醋意”，所以他要唱支曲儿给水溶听，告诉水溶自己将要走的路。
出家这条路他走得很放心，水溶对黛玉的一举一动，他都看在眼里，没有嫉妒、没有眼泪，只有微笑。
榕树下网站大概是我了解到的比较适合发表文章的地方。有兴趣的帮着wumiao判断一下它的好坏。
1.我想黛玉是已经爱上水溶了, 在前面的百合一回已经完全明确.
2.我仍然坚持她和宝玉的知己关系不会改变,这也是一种爱情的变身. 能够拥有这样两份爱情,是她的幸运...如果是现代, 就希望她有一个LG和一个情人了...呵呵,不过和这里无关.
3.我想她已经逐步意识到自己对水溶的感情了,不过骤然面对初恋的爱人,情不能自己,所以没有控制好.但是以他们夫妻的深情,她也深知水溶会理解.
黛玉的才华应该是贾妃省亲後就广为人知。贾母庆寿时，北静王妃等人见过黛玉，但那之後，连小过黛玉的探春都已开始议婚了，而且黛玉出嫁时已有19岁，所以当时黛玉未必真得很小。
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回复jiajia07的评论∶
水溶的确可能这麽想∶“He knows that, even after they got their own baby, Dai Yu is still in love with Bao Yu.”
但我觉得此时的宝黛之间未必是love，或者说这种love已非单纯的男女之爱。他们之间经历太多了，两人自幼青梅竹马一起长大，曾经到“非卿不娶，非君不嫁”的地步。各自嫁娶，而且还都有了孩子。此时异地相遇，又是宝玉生病之後与他第一次单独相处，他们之间更多的是唏嘘和无奈。
嫁给水溶之後，黛玉在不自觉中己渐渐地将对宝玉的爱转移到水溶身上，可能连她自己都不太清楚，就象“血誓”黛玉梦中，刚和宝玉泪眼相对，但看到水溶来了“黛玉一时又欣喜起来：原来你没死。恍恍惚惚觉得和水溶是有著婚约的。黛玉不知不觉就迎了过去”。由此可见在黛玉心里，水溶的份量在不断增加，何况还有个万儿。宝玉现在只会是她的表哥，她的知己。她不可能同一时间爱著两个男人，这样对谁都不公平。
但水溶却不一样，他的确还没摸透黛玉的心，整个贾府都知道黛玉将来是要嫁给宝玉的，所以水溶应该一早知道宝黛之间的关系。由於他深爱著她，所以他才会在乎她的心，在“衷情”中他就试探过黛玉，当时她只以“知己”做答。作为一个男人，她见到自己妻子在为旧情人流泪，“看著黛玉脸色一变，似伤心又似生气”，水溶的表现很正常。
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“不过我也应该再多写些他对孩子的爱。”，对啊！很希望早些看到你笔下的父子情。
could be. but when 水溶 met 黛玉, 黛玉 was too young, as LI FEI mentioned.
我觉得水溶结交宝玉的目的很简单，“醉翁之意不在酒，在乎山水之间”，他想通过宝玉，对他那位才貌双全的表妹多些认识。
心有灵犀，呵呵
"其实我交结他-----如今不说也罢" --why? "
Great question. That's what I was thinking of asking tonight. And datuzi Mei Mei already spoke it out. That is really an interesting place.
情敌见面，份外眼红。虽然俩人都是温文尔雅的真男人，但还是有点火药味。“玉儿”这两字，刚看时就觉得有些甚麽的，经datuzi一提，的确有道理。
Even now 水溶 is not quite confident about 黛玉真爱的 (except Wan Er. , but I mean from the deep soul, grown-up side)。
1. In the beginning, 水溶 "站在门边，凝神望着宝玉"-- which indicates the subtle relationship. he could come in with an excited welcome! since they were good friends before :)
2. then he showed off his passion for 黛玉 in front of 宝玉! very interesting. "这要谢谢玉儿，多亏了她。我自然是心喜的，但是若得不着，有了她，我也一样欢喜。”
Will 水溶 address 黛玉 as '玉儿' in front his mother or sister? --maybe not. 潜台词可能是“她是你的林妹妹，是我的玉儿." 而且谁都知道孩子是黛玉生的.
This is not enough yet! "但是若得不着，有了她，我也一样欢喜" -- a little bit show off, but he deserves it. :) 以致于"黛玉的脸上红若桃花，宝玉的脸却煞白如纸". Not everyone can 心想事成, but 水溶 made it!
3. 宝玉跟水溶抢一下词,--Both of them 有些尴尬了.
4. "水溶看着黛玉脸色一变，似伤心又似生气，但慢慢地，他的眼色又泛起温和爱怜的波光，伸手抓过黛玉的手，轻轻拍了拍"-- 水溶,of couse understood what 宝玉 sang, his 温和爱怜的波光 came from his heart for 黛玉 only, not after thinking about宝玉's future, 虽然当宝玉站在黛玉面前时,他现在还没占什么大优势.
5. 水溶微微一笑，牵住黛玉的手，也不和宝玉作别就往外走-- Not 水溶's 稳重 style though.
Miaomiao' magic will let Shui Rong's true love take over 黛玉's heart.
according to the deions, Shui Rong is 27-19=8 years elder than Dai Yu and then 6 years elder than Bao Yu. Shui Rong used to like Bao Yu very much. recall in "chapter 4 潇湘 :
水溶在原地转了两圈，面对黛玉只好刨心列胆：“我乃世袭的北静王，我的名字叫水溶，当今圣上乃我舅父。我与你表兄贾宝玉本是好朋友，我大他几岁，过去曾经也一处习作玩耍。其实我交结他-----如今不说也罢" --why?
Has any JJMM figured out the reasons that Miaomiao did not write out?宝玉is too outstanding or 水溶wants to approach 宝玉 for 黛玉's poems?
I also do not think 黛玉 can love two persons at the same time, so黛玉本篇表现出来的情不自禁，令人有些伤感。She knows how to face Shui Rong but does not know how to face Bao Yu. 好几处都刻画了她的内心矛盾, for example,
1. always "泪如雨下"---- missing him too much
2. 黛玉看着他，半天低声道：“你不是无才无能，只是错生了时候，时候也错待了你。” while later 黛玉只不接水溶的目光; --不接目光 is the best deion of her thoughts.
3. "你忘了以前我门前的那些杆竹子了么？"-- She does not need to emphasize bamboo, and bring Bao Yu back to old days.
Miaomiao handled this part very well, I would say. Because Bao Yu and Dai Yu have not communicated in a "normal" way after 宝玉's marriage since 宝玉was sick for a long time and Dai Yu mairred out. Now 宝玉 has a clear thought about his future but 黛玉 shows her 一步三回头的眷恋.
Bao Yu is of no use in real life. He only lives on the wealthy life his family gave to him. So he was enjoying playing with many many girls in the garden.
Shui Rong, on the other hand, took the responsibility for serving his country since 20 years old. He is much respectful.
"selling paintings, poems? 恐怕水溶把那些字画都买了吧"
-lol. Good thinking!
"It might take her a while to realize it."
-Agree. When a person doesn't have to pretend himself/herself at all in front of another one, that one must be his/her: (1) either Mom and Dad, or (2) very close brothers and sisters, or (3) soulmate.
Obviously Shui Rong could be Dai Yu's soulmate, although Dai Yu has not realized that yet. But soon. QIAN TU SHI GUANG MING DE, DAO LU SHI QU ZHE DE :-)
Agree with most of the comments JMs made here, especially most of Jiajia's and 五维's.
Finished this chapter with a heavy heart, mostly because 黛玉和水溶 still have a long way to become soulmate, 心意相知， 水乳交融, but now they are facing 宫里园内的凶险.
"这里水溶也一饮而尽道：“我赠你一言：无人收废帐，归马识残旗。你若看见前面还有路，千万不要另走他途，只管顺着路来，必可以达到自己的目标。心静人沉着，过去的只管让他过去，不要纪念那么多。”宝玉点点头：“多谢王爷教诲。”水溶微微一笑，牵住黛玉的手，也不和宝玉作别就往外走，黛玉边走边回过头，看着宝玉，宝玉向她笑着点头，眼里含着闪闪的泪花。"
五维 is right. From last paragraph, both 黛玉和水溶 knows that Bao Yu is to going to say farewell to the 世俗 world.
"水溶牵住黛玉的手，也不和宝玉作别就往外走":
Shui Rong 心有不平, though he loves 黛玉 to death.
黛玉 exhibits all of her emotion for 宝玉 in front of 水溶 without any wearing any mask, very naturally 真情流露. People only do that in front of their dear ones. 黛玉一点都不矫情, because of the true love. It might take her a while to realize it.
Thinking loud, how can 黛玉 and 宝玉 make a living if they get married? selling paintings, poems? 恐怕水溶把那些字画都买了吧.
"I am using "Firefox"."
I am using Firefox too. By the way, my original word was "des"-"crip"-"tion". Would you like to try to use the word in a whole in your next message? Thanks :-)
Dear Miao Mei Mei, thanks very much for your reading our readers' opinions carefully and your prompt reply.
Your explanation about Zhu Ying's action is reasonable. Maybe you could also consider a little more about his hesitation of letting Dai Yu see Bao Yu, especially alone after Zi Juan and baby left? Zi Juan probably should also think about it, since she is always a very smart woman, thinking of her not willing to allow Shui Rong and Dai Yu stay alone together at the beginning :-)
If you would like to add some showing Shui Rong's love to Wan Er, we might expect to hear Shui Rong's telling Dai Yu in person (again) how he only prey to get Dai Yu back when he knelt down in snow, and how much he loves their child because it comes from Dai Yu, and how much he appreciates Dai Yu gives him all life's happiness, etc.
Anyway, you know better how to write beautiful scenes. We are here just waiting :-)
btw...my reading carefully just because I love your story. As 五维 Mei Mei said, we love to 细细品味 your lovely story. Thanks again.
I see, thanks for clarification. I have no problem posting though. I am using "Firefox".
"黛玉是爱水溶的,而且水溶也明白,"
Very agree! The reason why 白瑞德 finally made up his mind to leave 郝斯嘉, because he saw 郝斯嘉 holding 魏希里, which adds the last straw.
In this story, Dai Yu and Bao Yu FA HU QING, ZHI HU LI. NEI YAN XIANG DUI is already the very extreme. So I fully agree, Shui Rong knows Dai Yu just needs some more time; and he is willing to wait.
At least, just kidding, Dai Yu didn't tell Shui Rong just after the baby was born that she didn't want any kid any longer, and didn't want to be close to Shui Rong any longer (as 郝斯嘉 told 白瑞德)...lol.
That's not a word - I tried to explain in several notes earlier :-) The issue is that, every time when I tried to post my notes, the central part of the original word was truncated. You could try from your side, to see whether you could write the word, yes, that's MIAO2 SHU4. Please let me know :-)
You are right, "将要入佛门之意". Thanks for the explanations.
One question though, "其实大约黛玉和水溶都听明白了，只是故意把话往世俗事上引，不想多说出家的事，以免宝玉更有这种想法。"
In the original Hong Lou Meng, "第二十二回 听曲文宝玉悟禅机 制灯迷贾政悲谶语, 宝玉填一支:
无我原非你,从他不解伊.肆行无碍凭来去.茫茫着
甚悲愁喜,纷纷说甚亲疏密.从前碌碌却因何,到如今
回头试想真无趣!
黛玉笑道:"不该撕,等我问他.你们跟我来,包管叫他收了这个痴心邪话."
In that chapter, it seems that Dai Yu knows how to get Bao Yu stopping thinking of 出家. What I mean is that, Dai Yu knows how to convince Bao Yu, instead of avoiding some topics. Like in that chapter, she decided to ask in Bao Yu's face.
However, in that chapter, "黛玉又道:"你那偈末云,`无可云证,是
立足境',固然好了,只是据我看,还未尽善.我再续两句在后."因念云:"无立足境,是方干净." In the original Hong Long Meng, Bao Yu definitely has 立足境. However, things are different now. He 无立足境, "则看那，衰杨枯柳人踪去，孤月残风影相和。更兼着，世人嘲讥冷笑多。" Now it is clean for him. Maybe that's also one reason Dai Yu stops persuading him any longer.
So, agree with 五维 Mei Mei, Bao Yu is going to be a monk soon.
I could not find "Deions" in the dictionary, guess you mean "depiction"? miao2 shu4? learned a new word. :)
jiajia：我觉得你的认真的劲头，将会使你做什么事情都会成功的。
朱英想不起来宝玉是因为他在王府见到的王孙公子很多，再加上宝玉衣着神态改变太大，大约他把宝玉认作普通去会试的秀才了。不过我可以再说明一下。水溶对黛玉很在意，即使没有孩子仍会爱她，不过我也应该再多写些他对孩子的爱。
谢谢你，你果然是应该得最佳读者奖。
姐妹们都去度假了，我想，我也去---买菜去。
关于宝玉唱的曲。大约是说红尘已看破，将要入佛门之意。其实大约黛玉和水溶都听明白了，只是故意把话往世俗事上引，不想多说出家的事，以免宝玉更有这种想法。所以宝玉说“你们都错会我的意思了”。其实黛玉水溶多半是故意的。
对宝玉来说，俗世已无可留恋，唯有黛玉的幸福让他牵挂。这次见面，他亲见黛玉身体精神都不错，水溶又如此关爱黛玉，这最后的担心也没有了。他于是可以放心的皈依佛门了。
对黛玉来说，她情不自禁的流泪可能是眷恋宝玉，但更主要应是对宝玉出家的无奈。也许水溶理解了这一点，才在伤心之后转来安慰黛玉。同样，黛玉最后的一步一回头也应该由宝玉出家的不舍而引起。不然，黛玉在水溶面前因眷恋宝玉而流泪，这如同用千万把利刃刺向水溶的心，对水溶太残忍了。不过这只是我的理解和一厢情愿。我太希望林妹妹幸福了，若水溶的心在痛，林妹妹的幸福就打折扣了。白瑞德最后离开郝斯嘉的情形，很类似吧。那是绝望了。
对于芊儿, Jia jia 说的是因宝玉心里想着"俺只念木石前盟",很有道理. 我想还有另一层意思,正好符合曹公所说的贾府辈分."水文王草".芊儿和贾兰贾荣贾蔷是一辈. 是否芊儿和万儿有姻缘呢?--扯远了.
Jia jia, 这两天上网少,刚看见你昨天关于贾兰悬念的回复, 说得好.谢谢了.等有空了再多聊.咱们有整整一个星期外加一个周末呢. :)
datuzi Mei Mei, somehow the word cannot be shown. The middle part was always truncated. Let me use pin yin MIAO2 SHU4.
ok, again, i don't know why the system didn't allow the word. i mean deions. try the capitalized format this time.
deions means "Deions".
I thought it was a typo. But I just retyped and again when it was posted, somehow it was changed to deions.
Mei Mei, sorry, deion is a typo, it should be:
After Wan Er was born, we didn't see any specific deions about whether Shui Rong loves the boy, until his sentence in this chapter, "我自然是心喜的"
That's PIN YIN. In Hong Long Meng, for Bao Yu, "AN2 ZHI3 NIAN4 MU4 SHI2 QIAN2 YUAN2".
what is the meaning of "deion" and "An Zhi Nian Mu Shi Qian Yuan"?
I mean Baoyu became Monk after Xiangyun died or something...but it might be too much for this book.
That's possibility though :-) At least now it is TIAN SHI DI LI REN HE for Bao Yu and XIANG YUN...lol.
In general, no opposition. However, now Bao Chai is helping the whole family for living. If Bao Yu, as a useless man (to some degree), gets another wife. Does that sound right? Now to some degree, he depends on Bao Chai. 出家probably sounds better for him.
有关于宝湘结合的红楼版本,这里好象开始有这个发展趋势?湘云已经在家里了,她经过这番风雨,对人生的看法大变,也许和宝玉倒相知更多,至少强过宝钗一些.这里的文章可以做下去.
拭目以待,MIAOMEIMEI如何结局.
MMs, please join in me for further discussions.
"有骨头不愁肉", the most important thing of a good book is its backbone, the story and the idea. Miao Mei Mei already has a wonderful story, a wonderful backbone. "人都说好文章是改出来的，我还得改。" That's probably true. A book is even more difficult than a story. Many details need to be TUI QIAO back and forth. But, "Bu Pa Ban Bu Dao, Zhi Pa Xiang Bu Dao". You have a good story, then you already have a solid foundation and potential to go toward a book.
How about this, since you serve us with such a wonderful story and fairy tale, as repay, we will try our best to help TUI QIAO details. Then you could gradually make your story perfect and with more meat.
MMs, any further opinions?
yes, this is for Baoyu and Baochai. somehow matching 忧伤中的快乐,both for Daiyu and Baoyu. Daiyu because she will always bear in mind Baoyu-s unhappiness. Baoyu... we don-t need to repeat any more.
This is Dai Yu and his first child, result of their true love. Shouldn't him cherish their love result very much? I guess Miao Mei Mei wants to emphasize that Shui Rong thinks Dai Yu is the most important, and she is way more important than his children, if he has to make a decision. That is obviously very sweet. But "Ai Wu Ji Wu", he should especially loves their child. (He role in Shui Rong's heart is completely different than Shui Rong's other daughter.) I still remember how much Rhett Butler loves Scarlett and his daughter in "Gone with the wind". Just a thought :-)
Is it because the dream earlier? Since anyway it is not the first time Dai Yu met with Bao Yu after he was married.
Coming back from where, no need to go back where? Especially thinking about the previous "那个昏迷中的梦". In the last chapter, "黛玉思忖了背后那句：“为了他你再回去吧”的话，为他---是水溶？还是这个孩子？还是宝玉？她不明白。" These "come" "go" words appear so many times in the original story and in this story. Need Miao Mei Mei for more explanations to us :-)
Dai Yu is asking Shui Rong or Bao Yu? Or since her heart is "乱乱纷纷", she herself doesn't know? Because Bao Yu also mentioned that he had eaten.
Because of 芊儿 and 万儿? Or "草字头下加个千万的千字", still Bao Yu, "An Zhi Nian Mu Shi Qian Yuan", still "草字头"?
"叹人间, 美中不足今方信.纵然是举案齐眉,到底意难平."
That's for Bao Yu and Bao Chai, not for Dai Yu and Shui Rong though :-)
I fully believe that with this chapter, Miao Mei Mei shows that she will not fall into a common three-person love story. She wants Dai Yu to have a perfect love story, with Shui Rong. Then Bao Yu is one mountain that they both have to climb over.
I guess that is the fareware between the three. Shui Rong "也不和宝玉作别", "牵住黛玉的手" "就往外走", them couple will go to their own life.
"黛玉边走边回过头，看着宝玉" Dai Yu is still in sad mood. She also knows that's the fareward between her and Bao Yu.
"宝玉向她笑着点头，眼里含着闪闪的泪花" Bao Yu is saying goodbye to his life-time love. He doesn't want to make her sad, so he "向她笑着点头", although "眼里含着闪闪的泪花". They both know that that's the end between them, finally and formally. From then on, they will have to say goodbye to their love and leaves it in their history.
Decent. Bao Yu also expressed his feeling, as Dai Yu thought in Chapter "二十四、出征", "但又觉得见面也只有尴尬和难过". He is willing not to see Dai Yu any longer. He doesn't want to bother her life, since he also knows that he still lives in Dai Yu's heart, forever.
Bao Yu knows Dai Yu has got her life-time love. He now feels fully released. He truly loves Dai Yu, so he feels happy for her. On the other hand, he also saw Dai Yu's heart, the same as before (well, at least to certain degree). He also feels released.
Really like this, Shui Rong "脸色一变", he knows he is still a loser at the moment (not exactly of course), but still at the moment, Dai Yu has not changed much from the last time when Dai Yu beg him to save Bao Yu and promised to his servant. So he "似伤心又似生气", remember how much he was mad in Chapter "九、欲绝", as he explained in Chapter "二十一、衷情", "水溶看着她的眼睛道：“真不明白，还是假的？你说的愿作奴婢那句话，惹恼了我，" He knows that, even after they got their own baby, Dai Yu is still in love with Bao Yu.
Soon, he controls himself. He really loves Dai Yu. He wants to give Dai Yu enough time to recover. He believes that his love will eventually win (or move) Dai Yu. So "但慢慢地，他的眼色又泛起温和爱怜的波光，伸手抓过黛玉的手，轻轻拍了拍。"
"黛玉用绢子试了眼泪，水溶又倒给她一杯热茶劝她喝下去。" Dai Yu knows her reaction is a little too much. But she couldn't control herself. And on the other hand, this sentence also shows that Dai Yu knows how much Shui Rong loves her and spoils her. She doesn't have to cover her real feelings in front of Shui Rong. Shui Rong will understand her. "水溶又倒给她一杯热茶劝她喝下去", really sweet. All Shui Rong's understanding and love are shown in these simple actions.
In front of Shui Rong :-)
Wonder Miao Mei Mei has more reasons to show us in the future chapters why Bao Yu wants to sing in front of Shui Rong this song.
Seems that before, Bao Yu always sing something like "酒楼上的曲儿", having "那些个东西"?
Bao Yu has grown up. He knows how to act decently, even though his heart is so uncalm at the moment.
They are both in front of their only life-time soulmate, the only woman they both love for the life time.
Good deions. Both Shui Rong and Bao Yu are nervous in front of Dai Yu. They also both need some alcohol.
"宝玉住了口" He realizes his role, he is oply a supporting actor in this scene.
"水溶也顿了一下，却接着说道：..." Shui Rong feels Bao Yu's reaction. He "顿了一下". Then he calms down, "接着说道".
Really likes Shui Rong. He is such as man. He explicitly express his love to Dai Yu.
"taking care of Daiyu as a real brother...or former lover"
Just my feeling. I don't think Bao Yu considers Dai Yu just as a former lover, let alone a real brother or sister.
Bao Yu told Shui Rong, "我本来要走的，却似乎听见她们的声音，近前来一看果然是她们.” When Bao Yu first came to the door, "面色玉白，两眼清亮，站在门口向黛玉望着。" After Zhu Ying asked Bao Yu to get in, "那宝玉有些懵懵懂懂走进来，直接就在黛玉面前坐了下来，两眼还是盯着黛玉，也不吭声。" Finally, he said, "就听宝玉说了句：“妹妹看上去丰满了些。”
Later, when Dai Yu totally forget to introduce her Wan Er to Bao Yu, Bao Yu didn't say at the moment. Afterwards, "宝玉见黛玉的目光尾随着孩子离去，便笑笑说道：“妹妹也不让我看看他。”黛玉才想起来，刚要让他们回来，宝玉连忙阻止了道：“不要叫了，以后还没有机会再见么？” - His heart is crying. He also didn't dare to see Dai Yu's son.
And many many.
In short, I think Bao Yu still loves Dai Yu so deeply. He still completely doesn't fit into his marriage. He cannot care less. But as 明艳如我 Mei Mei said, he is growing up. He knows how to kind of control his feelings to Dai Yu. She is married to Shui Rong.
These deions are really good. All three's expressions and feelings and subtle interactions are shown vividly.
Shui Rong implicates that he didn't want to have more communications with Bao Yu because of "牵扯到众多原因" (obvious). "说着，眼望向黛玉", he still so much expects to see that his Yu Er already completely fully loves him. Unfortunately, he has to be disappointed again at the moment, even though they two already had a cute son. "黛玉脸上还含着悲伤，只不接他的目光."
The situation between the three is really embarrasing. Bao Yu fully understands and tries to help Dai Yu, "宝玉笑着打岔...".
Nice!
This deion is really GOOD! Nice job! Thinking about it, there are so many things under the words.
Shui Rong is good. He stood at the door, starting at Bao Yu. He didn't go in; he kept enough space for Dai Yu, even though, please remember, at the moment, both Bao Yu and Dai Yu are NEI YAN XIANG DU.
Of course, he is the husband. He stood at the door. That's his right. But at least, he didn't say anything, even not entering the door. But every one of us could imagine how much feelings in his heart at the moment.
是啊，多谢啦，我可以安心得去睡啦。
姐妹们玩儿好
叹人间, 美中不足今方信.纵然是举案齐眉,到底意难平.
sigh...
Not sure whether Miao Mei Mei hides some link here or not. Dai Yu's that dream is very important. Bao Yu's reaction deserves more explanations; maybe Miao Mei Mei will tell us in later chapters.
噢,都忘了EASTER DAY了. 祝水姐姐和家人幸福快乐!
At least now you could go to sleep before it gets too late. Miao Mei Mei is so considerate.
Once again, Bao Yu knows that in the world, Dai Yu is his only soulmate. How could he get lost of her? I guess that, he not only feels sad about his personal fate, but also, and more important, he feels so sad that he lost Dai Yu. Just as later, when Shui Rong said, "有了她，我也一样欢喜。" "这话说完，...，宝玉的脸却煞白如纸。"
I guess at least on one side, Dai Yu feels a little sweet. Although Bao Yu married Bao Chai, still, she is Bao Yu's soulmate and only love, even though the couple had a baby.
I took it as a flattery :-) No, I am not. I am in engineering area.
Right. In Dai Yu's heart, she needs to finally clear her thoughts and feelings. We all hope a perfect ending for them three. I mean, Dai Yu will finally fully loves Shui Rong. In her heart, Bao Yu will always be her soulmate; but eventually, not closely related to men-and-women love. Shui Rong will eventually have Dai Yu's full heart. Bao Yu, he will become a monk, right?
Again agree, you seem to be a professional critician?
This sentence is good, as it relates to "十七、重锦", Bao Chai thought, "也许以后也得靠自己才行" and "十九、钗环", "黛玉道：“姐姐拿这些银子做点本钱，做个小生意也好，你们家过去不是很会这些经济上的法子,..." Seems that Bao Chai took Dai Yu's suggestion and tried to do something to support the whole family. Good.
this sounds very frustrating... 10 days without a new update...
1. Agree, I also mentioned it should be in different ways. since Love could also vary into another form.
2. I think life is never perfect, Daiyu will love Shuirong as the lover and husband, while her love to Baoyu will faint but remain an important part of her personality. Remember Miao Mei Mei said忧伤中的欢乐, the complexity of human being is not just a switch between yes and no.
agree with your comment on zhuyings reaction, also seemed strange to me.
Not sure why Bao Yu didn't want to say hi to Zi Juan. In addition, Zi Juan is now married. I guess her dressing especially hair style would have changed. Bao Yu always knows how close Zi Juan is with Dai Yu, and how Dai Yu always treats Zi Juan as her sister. Wonder why Bao Yu didn't say hi to Zi Juan. Maybe his full heart is on Dai Yu?
In front of Zi Juan and 两个奶妈?
Shui Rong said to Bao Yu, "以前你常来我府里做客". Also, Zhu Ying escort Dai Yu to see Bao Yu and Dai Yu before. Furthermore, Bao Yu is obviously very handsome and outstanding. Kind of doubt Zhu Ying didn't recognize him at the beginning.
Since Zhu Ying and Zi Juan are married, I guess Zi Juan must have told Zhu Ying about Bao Yu and Dai Yu's past. Since he is Shui Rong's most trusted person, he should know (guess) Shui Rong's concern. Of course in any way, he should treat Bao Yu very politely; but I guess he would have some concern for Shui Rong, and may not just "眉头展开笑了" - seems he is very happy to see Bao Yu.
This sentence is good, showing Miao Mei Mei's careful considerations.
So one didn't come along, either because she didn't want to leave home with her own kid, or because Wan Er didn't eat that much anymore?
Agree, in general. But I think: love is always selfish, at least in some ways. From Shui Rong's perspective, he wants to have Dai Yu's whole heart. Although Dai Yu and Bao Yu can remain to be 知己 (soulmates), Dai Yu should say goodbye to their love in her heart, if she wants to have a wonderful life and it's fair to Shui Rong. Agree that "sometimes you could love 2 persons in different ways", but needs to be in different ways. One in love, one in other way, for example, brother-sister feelings eventually. If "Daiyu will always love Baoyu in the deepest heart", if she still "love" Bao Yu and cannot change the feelings to another type of love, Shui Rong will never be really happy.
"黛玉见他还是心里一惊，连忙拿帕子掩了微张的双唇，双目便开始变得模糊"
This is NOT the first time Dai Yu saw Bao Yu after she moved out of JIA FU. In Chapter "十四、日暮", she went to see Bao Yu and Bao Chai. However, this time, she saw Bao Yu alone - without Bao Chai. So she still could not control her feelings toward Bao Yu, even in front of her servants. (Remember, Zhu Ying is Shui Rong's people.)
After reading this chapter, I fully agree with u, 衷情is one of the best chapters of this novel, I also like 日暮,血誓, all have to do with Baoyu. It is difficult to describe the 3er relationship, especially in regard of Baoyu and Daiyu.
But I think Daiyu will always love Baoyu in the deepest heart, sometimes you could love 2 persons in different ways.
Like what Daiyu said to Baoyu你不是无才无能，只是错生了时候，时候也错待了你,they will remain 知己.
I read the last chapter and had so much wanting to discuss with MMs. But I was too busy in the last several days and didn't get the chance. Will bring out my thoughts this weekend.
Miao Mei Mei has the best thinking for this chapter. It gives a real end in Dai Yu's heart toward Bao Yu. Dai Yu deserves her own new wonderful life. In order to fully enjoy her life, she will have to cut her love to Bao Yu, sooner or later. That will be fair to Shui Rong too. He really deserves that. I think in Shui Rong's heart, he also expect that one day, Dai Yu can put down Bao Yu and only love himself, with her full heart.
In Chapter "九、欲绝", Shui Rong thought, "果然自己就没有一点希望么？这辈子即使可以得她的人，却不能得她的心么？" Now he has got Dai Yu as his wife. But I guess he is still uncertain whether he has got her heart. Almost, he knows, sadly, he has not won her heart. In Chapter "二十一、衷情", he said, "你为他那么着，其实我很佩服的，你很有侠义和勇气，就算是这两样吧，是不是？还有别的么？” Please pay attention, "就算是这两样吧，是不是？还有别的么？" He so much wanted to hear a positive answer for the first question and a negative answer for the second. (Although he almost completely knows the answer.)
At that time, Dai Yu said, “古人有话，士为知己者死。王爷难道没有知己的么？” The answer was so obvious. Dai Yu considers Bao Yu as her "知己"; although Shui Rong considers Dai Yu his "知己": "来的晚，人却是第一份。" I was really touched and moved by Shui Rong's complete love to Dai Yu at the moment. He must be so disappointed and sad at that moment. But still, he chose to give Dai Yu time and space, just clearly express his love.
At that time, Dai Yu so much understood Shui Rong's love and was very touched too, "黛玉的心里如石投水，涟纹波波荡去，忍不住也抓住了水溶的手". But still, she didn't cheat her own heart and didn't say something untrue just to please Shui Rong.
"两个人都默不作声，过了一会儿，水溶把黛玉的小手放在自己温和的大手心里，轻轻摩挲，两个人又共同望向玉舍那边。" Shui Rong was showing his true love without words; two of them decide to turn the topic to themselves, to their own love story, that's why "两个人又共同望向玉舍那边", because the house records the starting of their own love story.