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sigh. JDT即使有圣灵的带领也不能表现得好一点点． Local Access打往中国电话卡1.3￠/分种

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从下面在美一方与JosephShen的讨论中得出：

JDT即使有圣灵的带领也不能表现得比非JDT好一点点,　在总体上（或统计学意义上）．

As said by Shen "圣灵的功用是帮助人，但不强迫人。人要学会凡事顺从圣灵带领。"

结果是：圣灵是在帮助人，尤其是JDT, 但他们没有"学会""顺从圣灵带领".

当然，也有可能如果没有圣灵的帮助，　JDT　群体会表现的更糟糕．
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• 评价"所有"JDT顺从程度很低,这不该是你的风格吧 -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (4 reads) 4/27/07
• I am not trying to judge, but just reasoning. And if it is the t -belief- ♂ (159 bytes) (9 reads) 4/27/07

If it is the truth, as I said, I accept it no matter how ugly it is.

Of course, here, I reached the conclusion only based on the content of discussion.

• And, I am surprised to 2 JDTs were happy at the end of -belief- ♂ (15 bytes) (9 reads) 4/27/07

the discussion.

• 我们不能忘记已经过去的事情 -comelater- ♀ (325 bytes) (7 reads)
4/27/07

小沈说:"我仍然为在美女士的谦虚诚恳态度喝彩"

之前在美与乡下人已经对小沈说过
这个赖基呀，总是自己找抽。 -乡下人进城- ♂
整天价就见你丢丑来着。用赵丽蓉说的话就是放什么瞅别人。 -在美一方- ♀

面对这样的态度讨论问题的两个人,小沈仍旧在说"我仍然为在美女士的谦虚诚恳态度喝彩"

这不是在"顺服"神,是什么??

• 顺从圣灵带领 -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (4 reads) 4/27/07
• 请注意，我说过是在统计学意义上的． -belief- ♂ (0 bytes) (4 reads) 4/27/07
• 你这样说,是否肯定小沈"顺从"圣灵带领呢? -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 4/27/07
• I am not going to judge a person. Particularly, make judgment -belief- ♂ (17 bytes) (7 reads) 4/27/07

only on one case.

• 回你主贴,你说"所有"JDT,然后解释说不judge. -comelater- ♀ (16 bytes) (8 reads) 4/27/07

你让我还说什么??

• For me, its a reasoning conclusion. And I did not judge any part -belief- ♂ (43 bytes) (3 reads) 4/27/07

And I did not judge any particular person.

• 那请你以后注意措辞,不要让读你主贴的人们有误解你是在judge -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 4/27/07
• and I did not say anything related to "All JDT", only statistica -belief- ♂ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 4/27/07
• 你谈整体的表现,难道不是出于对几个JDT的judge吗? -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 4/27/07
• No, based on the research data for social science community. -belief- ♂ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 4/27/07
• data如何来,不是来源于judge?只是不来源你的judge罢了 -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (4 reads) 4/27/07
• data 源于judgment? I have to say, you need basic training -belief- ♂ (98 bytes) (7 reads) 4/27/07

on scientific research.

Ask your husband, if data in his research is from judgment of not

• If he agrees with you on this, he'll be in big trouble. -belief- ♂ (0 bytes) (2 reads) 4/27/07
• 你的data是不是表明JDT的整体表现的? -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (2 reads) 4/27/07
• 你认定了一个群体的judge.你的认定不是一种judge吗? -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (2 reads) 4/27/07
• Also, you see, there is a reason for me to "Sigh", because -belief- ♂ (92 bytes) (7 reads) 4/27/07

they seemed to be satisfied and happy by the end of that discussion.

I only can sigh.

• 这是你的什么标准?直觉吗?那他们本应该如何呢? -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 4/27/07
• That's what they should think about. -belief- ♂ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 4/27/07
• 上面的贴子,是你自己写的,你让他们想,你不想吗? -comelater- ♀ (36 bytes) (4 reads) 4/27/07
• I can push them to think, but can't think for them. -belief- ♂ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 4/27/07
• 你说他们happy不是judge而是push 他们吗?得...明白了 -comelater- ♀ (0 bytes) (2 reads) 4/27/07