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事实与历史:对乌克兰的宣传者与反对者的回应

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原文链接:https://medium.com/@giorgioprovinciali/facts-and-history-answer-to-propagandists-and-nay-sayers-about-ukraine-c94a52b02391?sk=1ae8fb5b2dfc27b3e72126fc5b0027c1

Facts and History Answer to Propagandists and Nay-sayers About Ukraine

By: Giorgio Provinciali

Chernivtsi Referring to the 90 billion EU loan, an Italian newspaper ran a Sunday headline:Zelensky costs us 220 each. A few days earlier, those same pages also justified the statement by Italian Vice President Matteo Salvini, who said,If Hitler and Napoleon failed to bring Moscow to its knees with their Russian campaigns, its unlikely Kaja Kallas, Macron, Starmer, and Merz will succeed.
Reproduced almost verbatim by another Italian Kremlin mouthpiece, those headlines arent just obscene: theyre, above all, false. Wrong in their numbers, method, logic, political message, and historical reconstruction.

Photo courtesy: La Verit

Lets even assume we wanted to divide that figure by the European population. Without even bending the arithmetic to populism, 90 billion divided by approximately 450 million EU citizens equals just over 200 per capita, not 220.
But thats not even the point.
No European citizen will pay 200 euros today, tomorrow, or through a Ukraine bill. This is a common debt, spread over decades, like any other European Union financial instrument. It is a loan, not a grant, and Ukraine will be required to repay it only when the Russian Federation repays reparations for the war Vladimir Putin unleashed in Europe.
Not Volodymyr Zelensky.

Between inflation, the industrial crisis, eroded real wages, devalued savings, and bills which we paid immediately the Russian war has already cost Europeans thousands of euros each. If Russia were to win in Ukraine, the structural instability at the EUs borders would lead to even higher permanent military spending. By keeping this eventuality at bay,the Ukrainian resistance led by Volodymyr Zelensky if anything, reduces the cost of the war for Europe.
Reversing this sequence is not opinion, but intellectual dishonesty.

The EU is supporting Ukraine to limit the damage, defending its borders and interests after suffering an energy, economic, industrial, and military shock caused by Russian aggression.It is Moscow that has brought a colonial and imperialist war to Europe. Not the other way around.
The financial instrument adopted by the EU is a loan, not a gift. It is a joint debt, with multi-year repayment and interest; frozen Russian assets guarantee a portion. It does notcostItalians as if it were lost money, and Zelensky receives nothing. The funds are disbursed in tranches, under the control of the European Commission, the European Investment Bank, and the International Monetary Fund.
The Ukrainian resistance is not a source of expenditure but the consequence of an illegitimate invasion. Supporting it is not just a moral duty: it is a way to defend Europe in line with international law.
The Russian war, which is the cause, defies all logic and rules and has already cost every Italian thousands of euros.

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Likewise, the logical and historical reversal with which they attempt to justify a very serious and doubly incorrect statement made by a minister of the Italian Republic, like Salvini, is astonishing.
Both the Napoleonic campaign of 1812 and Operation Barbarossa of 1941 took place mainly in present-day Ukraine: in central and eastern Ukraine, the Dnipro basin, the Donbas, Crimea, and the Ukrainian steppes. Less than a month ago, I documented in avideorecorded in Moshchun how,alongside the Second World War trenches, Ukrainians dug trenches to defend Kyiv in 2022.
A few months earlier, Iexplainedhow, together with a partisan from Sumy armed with a metal detector, Alla Perdei and I found coins, bullets, and buttons belonging to the Nazi-Fascist soldiers sent in vain to invade Ukraine.With its territory devastated, millions of civilians dead, and cities transformed into battlefields, it was Ukraine that exhausted and shattered the offensive capacity of those invaders.Saying that Russia resisted is a propaganda oversimplification that ignores geopolitical reality.Napoleon Bonaparte and Adolf Hitler werent stopping a Russian advance: they were invading Ukraine to push further east.
Its not true that no one ever stopped Russia. Whats true, instead, is that those who tried to conquer Ukraine including Russia itself always ended up losing the war.

History answers Minister Salvini and those newspapers.

Tsarist Russia suffered a resounding defeat in the 19041905 war when it attempted to expand into Manchuria and Korea, and Japan inflicted a complete and overwhelming loss. The Russian fleet was destroyed at Tsushima, the empire lost Port Arthur, and was humiliated and forced to sign a peace. The following year, the 1905 revolution occurred.
In 19391940, the USSR attempted to invade Finland. It was the Russian army that suffered enormous losses, exposing its inefficiency. A failure so severe that it made Adolf Hitler realize that the Red Army was far from invincible.The Nazi-Fascist troops ultimately crumbled in Ukraine.Lasting 10 years (19791989), the Afghan War was a total strategic defeat, ending with the collapse of the USSR in 1991.
In Ukraine, Russia has already been stopped strategically: it wanted to conquer Kyiv, overthrow the government, and annex the entire country. How it went is clear to all.

Therefore,Russia can indeed be stopped, and it loses every time it attempts wars of expansion. The myth of its invincibility is propaganda, not history.And the Italians who were stopped in Ukraine should remember this best of all.

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I took this picture when, with Alla, we were inside a trench built by a partisan from Sumy to resist the Russians in the same forest where WWII was fought copyrighted photo
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Me in Moshchun, where Ukraine built trenches exactly where other trenches from WWII were copyrighted photo

THANKS TO ALL WHO BACK US IN THESE HARD TIMES ????????????????????????

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事实与历史:对乌克兰的宣传者与反对者的回应

作者:Giorgio Provinciali

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切尔尼夫茨周日一家意大利报纸针对900亿欧元的欧盟贷款发表了标题为:泽连斯基让我们每人花费220欧元的文章。几天前,这同一报刊还为意大利副总理马泰奥萨尔维尼如下言论辩护,他说:如果希特勒和拿破仑在他们的俄罗斯战役中未能让莫斯科屈服,那么卡亚卡拉斯、马克龙、斯达默和梅兹也不太可能成功。

这些标题几乎被另一家意大利克里姆林宫的喉舌逐字重复。这些标题不仅令人反感:更重要的是它们都是假的。它们在数字、方法、逻辑、政治信息和历史重建方面都是错误的。

(图:照片由《La Verit》提供)

即使我们假设想将这一数字除以欧洲人口。即使不将算术扭曲为民粹主义,900亿欧元除以约4.5亿欧盟公民,每人仅超过200欧元,而不是220欧元。

但这根本不是重点。

今天、明天或通过乌克兰法案,没有任何欧洲公民需要支付200欧元。这是一笔共同的债务,分散在数十年之内,就像任何其他欧盟的金融工具。这是一笔贷款,而不是赠款,乌克兰只有在俄罗斯联邦偿还普京在欧洲发动的战争的赔偿时,才会被要求偿还这笔贷款。

不是弗拉基米尔泽连斯基。

在通货膨胀、工业危机、实际工资下降、储蓄贬值和需要立即支付的账单之间俄罗斯的战争已经使每位欧洲人损失了几千欧元。如果俄罗斯在乌克兰获胜,欧盟边界的结构性不稳定会导致更高的永久性军事支出。通过阻止这一情况发生,弗拉基米尔泽连斯基领导的乌克兰抵抗力量,完全是在降低欧洲的战争成本。

扭转这个顺序不是观点问题,而是智力上的不诚实。

欧盟正在支持乌克兰,以限制战争造成的损害,捍卫其边界和利益,因为其遭受了俄罗斯侵略造成的能源、经济、工业和军事冲击。是莫斯科将殖民主义和帝国主义的战争带入欧洲,而不是反过来。

欧盟采用的金融工具是贷款,不是赠款。这是一笔共同债务,具有多年偿还和利息;冻结的俄罗斯资产保证了其中一部分。它对意大利人来说并不花费如同损失金钱,而泽连斯基也未获得任何东西。资金是分期拨付的,由欧洲委员会、欧洲投资银行和国际货币基金组织控制。

乌克兰的抵抗力量不是支出的来源,而是非法入侵的结果。支持它不仅是道德责任:而是依据国际法捍卫欧洲的一种方式。

这场俄罗斯战争,作为根本原因,挑战所有逻辑和规则,已经让每个意大利人损失了几千欧元。

(图:我在乌克兰莫什恰拍摄了这段影片版权归Giorgio Provinciali所有)

同样,试图为意大利共和国的一位部长,如萨尔维尼,所作出的非常严重且双重错误的声明辩护的逻辑和历史颠倒,令人惊讶。

1812年拿破仑的战役和1941年的巴巴罗萨行动主要发生在当今的乌克兰:在乌克兰中部和东部、德涅普河流域、顿巴斯、克里米亚和乌克兰草原。不到一个月前,我在莫什恰拍摄的视频中记录了乌克兰人在2022年如何在第二次世界大战的壕沟旁边挖掘壕沟以保卫基辅。

几个月前,我与一位来自苏梅的游击队员一起,解释了如何使用金属探测器,Alla Perdei和我找到了一些属于纳粹-法西斯士兵的硬币、子弹和钮扣,他们被派来入侵乌克兰,但最终徒劳无功。乌克兰国土遭到毁坏、数百万人平民丧生、城市变成了战场的情况下,正是乌克兰耗尽并摧毁了那些侵略者的进攻能力。宣称当时是俄罗斯在抵抗是一种简化的宣传,忽略了地缘政治的现实。拿破仑波拿巴和阿道夫希特勒并不是在阻止俄罗斯的进攻:他们是在入侵乌克兰,向东推进。

并不是真的没有人能够阻止俄罗斯。事实是,正相反,那些试图征服乌克兰的人包括俄罗斯本身最终总是输掉战争。

历史回答了萨尔维尼部长和那些报纸。

沙皇俄国在1904至1905年的战争中遭受了惨重的失败,当时它试图向满洲和朝鲜扩张,而日本则给予它彻底且压倒性的损失。俄罗斯舰队在对马海战中被摧毁,帝国失去了旅顺港,并遭到羞辱,被迫签署和平条约。随后的那一年,发生了1905年革命。

在1939至1940年间,苏联试图入侵芬兰。俄军遭受了巨大的损失,暴露出其低效。这次失败如此严重,以至于阿道夫希特勒意识到红军远非不可战胜。纳粹-法西斯部队最终在乌克兰崩溃。持续了十年的阿富汗战争(19791989)是一场完全的战略失败,最终导致1991年苏联的崩溃。

在乌克兰,俄罗斯已经在战略上被阻止:它想征服基辅、推翻政府并吞并整个国家。结果如何时显而易见。

因此,俄罗斯的确可以被阻止,每次试图发动扩张战争时,最后都会失败。其不可战胜的神话是宣传,而不是历史。而被阻止在乌克兰的意大利人,应该最清楚这一点。

(图:我与Alla拍摄了这张照片,当时在一个由苏梅的游击队员为抵抗俄军建造的壕沟里,正是在二战交战的同一森林中版权归Giorgio Provinciali所有)

(图:我在莫什恰拍的照片,乌克兰在与二战壕沟完全相同的位置上修建了新的壕沟版权归Giorgio Provinciali所有)

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