靈小抓2008-02-23 04:28:56回复悄悄话
What the xxxx did he sorry for?! He is an artist or entertainer. Why celebrities should have social responsibilities and be role models? Listening to his music, watching his movie, or just looking at his handsome pictures, that is it, that is all his values to me as an entertainer. Who cares if he likes taking sexual pictures. I do too, and videos. So what? Amy Winehouse's Back to Black is the only CD I bought in 2007. She is a drug addict, but I am listening to her music. I don't have the right to judge how she lives her life. Those stupid people offended by Edison's pictures, please just xxxx off and get a life. No one force you to pay attention to his personal life. And please don't use children as an excuse. It is too old. Children are parents' responsibilty since they choosed to give birth to their kids, not others.
mmkl662008-02-22 09:42:22回复悄悄话
thanks for your prompt replies.
But after reading your replies, I can only say 最勇敢的是能向小孩认错的人, 最懦弱的是死不认错的人
mmkl662008-02-22 09:16:10回复悄悄话
Sorry if you think that I am not respecting you. But I just want to quote an example that is close to what we are discussing.
As a Hongkongese, I feel a bit ashame for this drama. Not coz I like any one of the artist involved, it is the fact that how ppl handling the case.
Firstly ah gill and edison did make a public announcement for the incident and say sorry for that. But even a 3 years old child can notice that they are not speak for their hearts. That's mean they don't know their social responsibility as pop stars. It is obviously not good for the society as a whole.
Secondly, the way that HK police handled the case is also very bad and needness to point out the fact that the head of HK police is the classmate of Edison gf's relative Mr Yeung.
When I passed by and read your posts, frankly I think that you also overlook about the sense of social responsbility. So I registered to this site for the first time and reply to you. Sorry that if you are uneasy with my strong words.
mmkl662008-02-22 08:37:02回复悄悄话
Pls think in this way, he announced in English just because he is doing a show for ppl that he is going to please with (Hollywood). On the other hand, even such banana look down Chinese, I really hope that Chinese like you won't look down yourself as well.
Also he says sorry don't mean that he is speaking for his heart. Again he is just doing a show as he still to be exposed in public in future (no matter he is in HK or Hollywood as an artist or CEO)
On the other hand, some lawyers saying that his speech (speaking in a regret way) would help him to avoid potential claims from those who has suffered in such incident. Eventhough he is not intentionally to do so, those who has suffered could also claim for the damages from his careless act.
But the most important thing is about the sense of responsibility. When you are a public person, you should know that your act would affect more ppl than ordinary ppl (and sometimes the effect could be out of your imagination) so as a public person you should have extra responsbility to ensure yourself your act won't affect the society in a bad way.
Pls don't think US speaks for the world. In many developed countries, many of their govt officials had to resign from their position just coz of sex affairs.
Frankly many ppl view that the photos are not that errotic as compared with those professionally made. But why it draw so much attention? just coz they are taken by the pop stars! No matter he is intentionally or not to disclose the photos to the public, it is already his fault to affect the society in a bad way. So saying a sorry is minimum requirement. On the other hand, if your errotic naked photos are posted on your blog, I think you don't need to say sorry to the public but just to your families or bf. Why? just coz you are not a public person.
历史是向前进的,而不是倒退,也不为人们所左右。 我们要适应社会的发展和改变,不管其有多少弊端,其最终是向好的方向发展。我们要平衡心态,客观的待人处事,不能像九斤老太,觉得现在不如以前,把别人批的一无是处。 道德观念只是在波动罢了,我相信会慢慢提高的。精神上的信仰,人们还是有的。不管是信仰谁,最重要是要相信自己,做到问心无愧。It's not about you did everything right, it's about you did your best.
不2008-02-21 16:31:17回复悄悄话
For the police,it's the really beginning of the case.Everyone know time is very very important to settle the net 犯罪,though it's a bit late,we'd believe the ability,indenpence and profession of the police.
ketsbaia2008-02-21 15:30:17回复悄悄话
He is being paid by Chinese to behave to chinese's virtue. if he is earning his living in the States, that is another story.
moonwalker1232008-02-21 15:12:08回复悄悄话
Clinton is different, he's a married man in the powerful position as a president, and Monica was just an intern. They were not equal.
moonwalker1232008-02-21 14:54:21回复悄悄话
Those who stole the pictures are the real criminals.
CGX is single, the rest of the women were all single at the time they played. Every adult did that, and mostly enjoyed. As long CGX didn't intensionally release and post these photoes, he didn't violate any law.
Anyone who publicize other people's private photo without consent should be pursued.
ziyanbabe2008-02-21 14:40:08回复悄悄话
you are sooo right. It's really not that big of a deal! Edison had sex with some stars, so what? It's not like he raped them! I believe edison took those picture with the permission of the female stars. So, the female stars can't blame on him. Edison is one of the victim too. Those pictures are private, people who spread them is the one that need to be punished! And, I don't think this will be a bad influence on teenagers. Teenagers will just learn to respect other people's privacy, and to protect their own privacy.
balsam_pear_k2008-02-21 14:23:29回复悄悄话
do you still remember Janet Jackson? She is an american.
iii16820002008-02-21 14:22:12回复悄悄话
Those stars are too fake, we all should celebrate the mess the made, Great job, CGX! Those who published the photos were heroes. Let's all see how fake the stars are. There was nothing wrong they played sex and took photos, but it was definitely wrong the stars were/are checating the mass.
everafter2008-02-21 14:03:48回复悄悄话
agree with you. especially that old guy who has four wives, he has no rights to critisize Chen because himself is the one who use his money to give women shame. And China's governor had to accept his fourth wife, what a joke.
不想再讨论这个话题,翻页,翻页。
我依然认为陈冠希有失误没错误。
如果非得换成社会责任的说法的话,另当别论。
欢迎您以后再来这里做客,本人写的都是即兴随笔,难免有措词不够严谨之处,请多多谅解。
But after reading your replies, I can only say 最勇敢的是能向小孩认错的人, 最懦弱的是死不认错的人
Good night!
演艺圈明星的特权,也是那些造星者,捧星者给与的。
若想让所有的人懂得社会责任,当然不是从陈冠希东窗事发做起!
所以,有隐患的时候不注意,沉醉在一片歌舞升平中,待到眼睁睁看着着火以后,在去责怪失火的人,而真正的纵火犯?就是曾经纵容他们的人。
As a Hongkongese, I feel a bit ashame for this drama. Not coz I like any one of the artist involved, it is the fact that how ppl handling the case.
Firstly ah gill and edison did make a public announcement for the incident and say sorry for that. But even a 3 years old child can notice that they are not speak for their hearts. That's mean they don't know their social responsibility as pop stars. It is obviously not good for the society as a whole.
Secondly, the way that HK police handled the case is also very bad and needness to point out the fact that the head of HK police is the classmate of Edison gf's relative Mr Yeung.
When I passed by and read your posts, frankly I think that you also overlook about the sense of social responsbility. So I registered to this site for the first time and reply to you. Sorry that if you are uneasy with my strong words.
中国人,当然看得起自己,但在尊重别人的同时,是不是得让别人先尊重自己!
否则,尊重就没有了相对的意义,尊重也是一种互动。
Also he says sorry don't mean that he is speaking for his heart. Again he is just doing a show as he still to be exposed in public in future (no matter he is in HK or Hollywood as an artist or CEO)
On the other hand, some lawyers saying that his speech (speaking in a regret way) would help him to avoid potential claims from those who has suffered in such incident. Eventhough he is not intentionally to do so, those who has suffered could also claim for the damages from his careless act.
But the most important thing is about the sense of responsibility. When you are a public person, you should know that your act would affect more ppl than ordinary ppl (and sometimes the effect could be out of your imagination) so as a public person you should have extra responsbility to ensure yourself your act won't affect the society in a bad way.
Pls don't think US speaks for the world. In many developed countries, many of their govt officials had to resign from their position just coz of sex affairs.
Frankly many ppl view that the photos are not that errotic as compared with those professionally made. But why it draw so much attention? just coz they are taken by the pop stars! No matter he is intentionally or not to disclose the photos to the public, it is already his fault to affect the society in a bad way. So saying a sorry is minimum requirement. On the other hand, if your errotic naked photos are posted on your blog, I think you don't need to say sorry to the public but just to your families or bf. Why? just coz you are not a public person.
haha,我差点上了UFO的当了。7788520牛!~
那可能是我记错了,打比方而已,要说因色下台的,还是中国最多。
他的错是在性的问题上基本上是低级动物,作为高级动物的人情应该是性的usher,他就那么多情?20多人呀,而且是那么短的时间内。卷入这件事的女人都是和陈一人,加上现在的男朋友或丈夫也没几个人,本人就不作非议了。
电影明星嘛,没看杨丽娟追星追到老爸都跳海了,陈冠希或许也有苦衷呢,娱乐圈本来就够乱的,近朱者赤,近墨者黑,是非圈的情事谁能说得清,数量是大了点,年轻气盛嘛,人不风流枉少年,问神探好。
没人说做爱和自拍不对,他要负的是泄漏他人隐私的责任,连他自己都知道这是应该的,有什么好讨论的。过失泄漏和恶意散布,各是各的责任,过失罪也是罪,拜托稍微有点法律常识,不然有一天你也犯过失罪被逮了还问为什么。
对自愿被拍,不自愿被公开隐私的那些女性道歉是最起码的。
如果还有人特别是女人居然觉得道歉不应该,那也就不奇怪现在女性被如此不尊重了!因为有些人真的是没有自尊,也就不被尊重!
女性首先是要自重,才能得到尊重。
我支持陈冠希对他的女性朋友说对不起或者进行精神上的补偿,但是对于大众,没必要。
他真的无辜得无需道歉吗?如果你的女儿(我们假设她不是明星)有一篓用过的卫生巾们,一般人会马上在卫生间处理掉的东西,可正好她有一种私人的爱好,喜欢把它们存起来,还放在了书包里,一天还带到了学校礼堂。可是这天她遇上一个坏同学,楞是把她的私好当众抖出来。好家伙!那些私好还不止属于她本人的,还有一些贴上其它同学名字标签的。(当然,我们尽可能要假设跟陈的遭遇类同)。 当然鄙人是不会给这种状况贴上“金风”“玉露”之类美丽标签的。因为它们的的确确不雅,不美(你其实有没看过那些照片?)你以为你女儿的感觉会不会像你文章认为的那样无辜, 那样没什么可道歉的? 陈用英语在华人社会道歉是因为他深感尴尬和内疚, 还是有廉耻之心的。
-----------恭喜你,你的联想力太丰富了,我真的无法回答,哈哈。
没人说做爱和自拍不对,他要负的是泄漏他人隐私的责任,连他自己都知道这是应该的,有什么好讨论的。失罪泄漏和恶意散布,各是各的责任,过失罪也是罪。对自愿被拍,不自愿被公开隐私的那些女性道歉是最起码的。
如果还有人特别是女人居然觉得道歉不应该,那也就不奇怪现在女性被如此不尊重了!因为有些人真的是没有自尊!
失误不等于错误,痛打落水狗不是人道的传统,嘻嘻。
看一些人留言,真的哭笑不得,世上愚人怎么那么多?愚人们,好好的理理思路,看看到底谁该道歉,谁该被谴责,谁甚至应该付法律责任?
1,陈冠希是单身成年人,他可以和任何单身成年女人交往和做爱,这既不违法,也不违反道德(当然如果你要用什么婚前不能有性行为这样的道德标准,我无话可说)。
2,自拍,无论是发生在夫妻前,还是情侣前,只要是双方自愿,这既不违法,也不违反道德。这属于情趣,属于隐私,应该被法律保护,不应该被窥视和暴露。
综上,陈做爱和自拍,既不违法,也不违反道德(把过时的,无聊的道德标准放一边),他无错,也不用道歉。
真正有错的,是把这些私人照片散布到网络的人,不仅仅是错,而是违法,应该被法律制裁。
幽默一下,08年初的大雪下的很黄,很暴力。
拍私人私密照又如何,私人习惯空间罢了。恋爱的男女做这些举动,很天经地义啊。
明星也是人,不是和尚尼姑,不是圣人。他们娱乐了大众之余,私生活还要取悦于大众?
私人生活,没有妨碍其他人的生活,其他人就无权批评。
希望他下次千万把自己的东西管好。
他要成商人,绝对是个啥都敢做的。。。
我是希望我这辈子都不会碰到这样的人,这样的人没有自己的道德底线的。
历史是向前进的,而不是倒退,也不为人们所左右。 我们要适应社会的发展和改变,不管其有多少弊端,其最终是向好的方向发展。我们要平衡心态,客观的待人处事,不能像九斤老太,觉得现在不如以前,把别人批的一无是处。 道德观念只是在波动罢了,我相信会慢慢提高的。精神上的信仰,人们还是有的。不管是信仰谁,最重要是要相信自己,做到问心无愧。It's not about you did everything right, it's about you did your best.
回复加勒比女海盗的评论:
说CGX没责任新加SB正是因为他是成年人.他自己也都承认了错误. 1. 向家人, 因为家人蒙受耻辱 2. 向受害者, 因为自己的疏忽造成了女朋友的损失. 3. 造成不良影响, 当然不是对那些喜欢看娱乐新闻的人而是对他们这些偶像失望的人,青少年首当其冲.
性教育不是通过porn pictures 进行的
海盗回答你----------
相信他承认错误是认真的,但是只对和他相关的人,并不是大众,就像任何一个孩子不想让家人失望。
1. 向家人, 因为家人蒙受耻辱 ,给亲人惹了麻烦,无论对错,都是不应该,这是一种责任之谈。
2. 向受害者, 因为自己的疏忽造成了女朋友的损失.
这是一种最典型的无奈,道歉,失误不代表错误,如果他认真的是认错,倒是显示他谦虚赤诚的一面了。
3. 造成不良影响, 当然不是对那些喜欢看娱乐新闻的人而是对他们这些偶像失望的人,青少年首当其冲.
他依然有对社会的责任感,毕竟那是不良影响。
4.性教育不是通过porn pictures 进行的,即便他的图片做了性教育,也没特别出格,毕竟比同性恋,SM,群居滥交要正常多了,如要鸡蛋里面挑出人家性事的毛病,那我也不好多说。
网络泛滥,色情泛滥,洪水猛兽,陈冠希背的黑锅也是不是重了些?
说CGX没责任新加SB正是因为他是成年人.他自己也都承认了错误. 1. 向家人, 因为家人蒙受耻辱 2. 向受害者, 因为自己的疏忽造成了女朋友的损失. 3. 造成不良影响, 当然不是对那些喜欢看娱乐新闻的人而是对他们这些偶像失望的人,青少年首当其冲.
性教育不是通过porn pictures 进行的
个人猜想,临场发挥,或许有误,但是,俺写的只是随笔,没想到会掀起如此大的波澜。
暂且这样比方,他讲英文会更具有安全感,否则他也不会出了事立刻飞到大洋彼岸了。
理解俺的观点,俺谢谢支持,不支持俺的看法,俺也认同,谢谢来这里参观,听我胡言乱语。
毕竟俺不是写的独家专栏,不能保证言论都具有推敲性。
就算破案又如何?不过是一场笑料罢了,于事无补,造物弄人啊。
不去追究杀人的,反而追究制造武器的。
平心而论,我经常回国,但是走在街上,除了一些陌生之外,总有一些惶恐,一旦最熟悉的地方变成了最陌生,便真的有些多愁善感油然而发。
现在80后90后的思想,突飞猛进,或许比自以为曾经还挺新潮的我要豁达开放的多。
而所谓的传统道德观念,一再的被打破底线,早熟,早恋,同居,过早的性行为,堕胎,已经不再是稀奇的事情,摇头丸,病毒,夜晚那虚无的霓虹灯下,迷失了灵魂比比皆是,而在娱乐圈,纸醉金迷的娱乐圈,谁能是永远理智的?陈冠希是和几位女星有性关系,但是总比那些为了权利和利益去潜规则的人高尚的多吧?他帅,多金,女子自然喜欢,不是指责女子虚荣,但凡女子,总有虚荣心的。他老成玩弄女星也好,少不经事也好,其实都不是最关键的,最关键的是,老一套不实用了,那道貌岸然的伪君子时代已经快被颠覆了,只是有些人不愿意承认罢了。
这个时代,与日剧新,虽然不敢说改朝换代,也面目全非了。
是接受还是排斥,车轮滚滚,道德底线还能捍卫到什么时候,精神上的信仰人们还在谈吗?
坦白的高尚的人。真正可恶的是那些伪君子和假道学,既要当**,又要装圣人,古时的皇帝就是,自己六宫粉黛三千佳丽夜夜乱搞,却不知羞耻地定出苛律酷刑去处死那些所谓淫乱的人。
鄙视那些道貌岸然,暗地偷窥的人!!!
整个裸照事件不就是一些人为了眼球而点击出来的吗?
楼主只是客观认为这件事没有这么严重。
把这件事搞得沸沸扬扬的反而是那些口诛笔伐的人。
纠着裸照不放的,心里高尚不到哪里去。
赞同你的观点,因果报应,可取。
谁让这个社会如此虚伪,都喜欢道貌岸然的伪君子!
回天天欢喜.我告诉你什么是玩弄,"玩弄"除了是戏和耍之外,就是施展手段和伎俩.就是因为CGX利用自己的外表和多金才使得女艺人们"愿打愿挨",她们被玩弄的后果就是嘴里含了颗吃不下又咽不下的苦果.
替天天欢喜说------被陈冠希外表和多金被迷惑欺骗的女星的苦果,可以不可以这样说,有得到就有付出?可不可这样认为,她们暂时得到了那外表和多金的时候,幸福告诉你了嘛?谁玩弄了谁?是外表和多金玩弄了女性,还是外表和多金被女性迷惑了,都说不准的,现在见了外表和多金,便不顾一切往上扑的女性,不在少数吧?
谢谢批评。
我以后再随笔上每篇都得标上------以上纯属个人观点。
吸引眼球和点击,您还真说对了,尽管我写的不怎么样,但是你不能要求我没有上进心吧?
我从来不轻易说-----排泄物。
站在陈冠希旁边出镜?------本来我也挺上镜,随便别人怎么看?
我写了,你来了,也算缘分。
事实证明,文艺界就是那么混乱,其中阴暗不是舆论可以阻止得了的。
如此自私的社会,谁会给谁交代?为情自杀的多了,到头来还不是被人骂愚蠢?
主要的还是社会制度,法律体系,人类道德观,包括文化取向的问题。
其实我真正愤慨的是,现在还有道德规范吗?现在的道德规范是什么?谁能说得清?社会的失衡,令人担忧,甚至感觉没有公平可言。
如果每个人都这样,裸照事件根本闹不起来
我愿意说,你愿听,至于消化系统,我在自己家里肆意胡为,你可是在大路上经过。。。
这件事大家都应该反省,散播照片的应该被对付,娱乐圈应该自我节制,崇拜偶像的应该清醒,父母应该教育孩子什么是对错,说大便臭的应该去闻闻自己的大便.
这些无论在道德层面或法律层面都是说不清道不明的问题,存在着截然相反的看法和做法。试看20年前被认为性犯罪而被枪决的案例,今天也可能只视为道德问题,甚或道德问题也算不上。即使在今天,不久前曾有流莺被游街示众,而演艺界的这种种性欲表演、贪官大款们包养的成堆情妇二奶恐怕比流莺更让卫道士们愤怒,究竟算不算犯罪呢?一边被称为娼妓而打入十八层地狱,一边被称为风流韵事而受到保护,不就是因为前者贫弱无依而后者有钱有势吗!
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"艳照门"的发生,象有的网友说的,是偶然也是必然,就是因为他亮丽的外表下有一个肮脏的灵魂,所以那位"奇拿"不发都不行,否则不是惊死就得憋死."艳照门"涉及的女艺人,有的已嫁为人妻,有的欲嫁人,CGX为什么还要保留和她们做爱的照片?本身就说明了他的道德有问题,是个严重的性变态.这是他的错之二.
"艳照门"事件的发生,也有好的一面,那就是警醒了艺人,做为"公众人物"因如何自律,不要表里不一,再有就是防止了CGX玩弄和伤害更多的女艺人.
这些个艺人从社会得到了多少啊?!原来,这些个收获是不用回报的,连最起码的社会责任都是不用负的。
作为公众人物,陈冠希的言行要有表率作用。他的行为客观上来说对社会造成了不良影响。他是需要道歉的。如果你要反驳阿娇,张柏芝不也没有道歉吗?所以陈冠希也不需要道歉。他道歉就是很好很诚恳。拜托!这个理由是站不住脚的。因为相片是从他这里流出的。他拍了当然有责任保护好这些资料。资料是别人偷走的?为什么不可能是在陈冠希的默许下copy走的?不是有传过他用这些照片跟别人打赌吗?当然谣传不能当证据。但是警察都还在调查中,还没有最终定论,楼主怎么就可以这样肯定地说“一个无辜的受害者,何错之有”?没错,他是受害者之一,但他并不无辜。他最起码有保管不善的责任,其他责任有没有很难说,幕后的事情我们也无从知道的。而且事情一开始就马上跑路躲起来,等阿娇,张柏芝她们做炮灰,还正好等上肥肥去世,然后才回来道歉,还劳师动众的。你要说他不需要向观众道歉,那香港人还要说为什么要拿他们纳税人的钱去保护这种人呢!!!
他的行为影响了这么多人,现在不就出来道个歉吗?有什么不应该的!你看,他就这样出来随便说一说,马上就有这么多人迫不及待,义愤填膺地跑出来帮他说话了。这世界上真是黑白颠倒了。弄清楚了,他说的是退出香港娱乐圈,没说退出别的娱乐圈!他本来就是半退的状态!况且退出娱乐圈再进入对他们来说还不是小菜一碟!做善事吗?要复出的时候跑到某个节目上演出就好了。还可以大声地说,是为了做善事呢!做善事也不可以么?然后就重出江湖了。
他的道歉和演讲,只能说明他背后的公关危机处理的十分好,公司很有能力,这是阿娇,张柏芝所不能比的。
再说,楼主动不动就上纲上线,什么“何时日渐冷漠的国人竟然变得如此刚正不阿仗义直言了?”、“耻笑艳照门事件中的中国人是酸的”,真是让人笑话!大家有不同的观点,你觉得自己的正确,你怎么知道陈冠希看了你这篇文章他会怎么想?!怎么还扯上所有中国人了??!!
“陈冠希的发言全部都是英文,可见他对国人的世俗的厌恶”、“更多的就是对国人世俗的蔑视,所以他讲的是英文,所以他不在意随声附和的国人听不听得懂,世俗是你们的事,与我何干,陈冠希的道歉中已经表达的在明白不过了”,难道不成楼主是陈冠希肚子里的蛔虫?还是陈冠希的公关跟你说你需要这样写这样说?
楼主的思想境界匪夷所思。“他举身事外,受了点挫败不要紧,在人生旅程当中,不过一段精彩的落寞风景而已。”,看来陈冠希拍的这些,楼主是欣赏的很了。“精彩的落寞风景”,精彩,估计楼主是很喜欢他这种做法了,落寞倒不见得,他不是还有你这样的于危难之中显真情的知己么?
艳照门落幕?不见得吧!他动了那么多人的奶酪,这样就算了?虽然幕后的事情观众无法知道,但是如果就此落幕的话,估计香港的警察是太想上镜了,整天没事就去保护陈冠希,站在名人旁边好出镜啊。
鄙视那些为了眼球和点击,为了显示自己而把大便说成是香的人!!!
"艳照门"的出现,看起来偶然,其实是必然的,因为CGX玩弄女星已经达到了极至,第一个看到艳照和散布出去的人,首先肯定是惊得不相信自己的眼睛,再后来就是得让公众知道CGX在他帅气外表下是个什么样子的性变态,否则,第一个看艳照的人,不是惊死就得憋死.社会对每一个人都是公平的.
搞不懂为什麽几张香港女人和一个明显是东亚病夫的男人作爱的照片如此轰动!她们可是演戏的,本来就是供人玩的,何必用道德不道德来衡量她们?
应该是戏子爱演戏 为钱心甘情愿供人玩的任君享用 冻雨不滑来一个吗?
愚民很可怕,中东有个女孩因为自由恋爱不是给石头打死了吗。
公众人物多是瞎捧的,何况陈冠希一直没有标榜自己是优秀人物。不盲从的人不会掺和这种事。
私下怎么做, 是个人的权力。但是不小心, 运气不好, 暴自己的隐私于大众之前,那别人是否还肯尊重你, 进而接着捧你的场, 是别人的权力。
上的山多终遇虎, 自己不小心, 咎由自取。
他对大众道歉, 是以委屈自己, 来争取大众接着捧他的场, 众女星的场,以减少损失。
现在因他引起的巨额损失, 总该有人买单。他的未来难说。
明月成都有点搞笑。如果CGX还没有违反普遍道德观,到什么歉呢?逃离香港干什么?戏份为什么给全部删除?你自己的道德观当然不是普遍道德观。呵呵。
普遍道德观并不等于正确的道德观.
强烈建议你去看---姜文---太阳照常升起,黄秋生那个酷啊。
奶奶不走,讲故事,好听,不听老人言,吃亏在眼前。
2. 该不该谴责他? 套句耶稣的老话,请没作过类似事情的人先来.
3. 英语说的很正, 让我想起前几天看的"PAINTED VEIL"里面的黄秋生. 讲英语的英国口音比 ED NORTON 还正. 可一说中文台词, 没把我笑背过气去.
我,站在你身后,砖头飞来,你顶着,我先撤,ok?
也不能因为是明星就如此夸张行事吧?
戏份为什么给全部删除?因为那个导演或者制片太笨,不会炒作。嘻嘻。
把你的粉黛弄浅一点,搞得像贞子似的~
我当是什么文章呢,还有人喊好,真是水平尔尔。陈冠希当然没有错,他干他自己的事,不关别人的事,这点还要你声明半天吗?搞得像是网友都很白痴、不讲道理似的!
陈冠希的事情反应的是网友对他的嫉妒,这点你有分析到吗?逊!
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我当是什么文章呢,还有人喊好,真是水平尔尔。陈冠希当然没有错,他干他自己的事,不关别人的事,这点还要你声明半天吗?搞得像是网友都很白痴、不讲道理似的!
陈冠希的事情反应的是网友对他的嫉妒,这点你有分析到吗?逊!
陈尚算知耻而退,不知楼主为何愤愤不平?发照片的当然也算阴险可耻。但世间如果真的没有狗仔队,难道任那些明星名人男盗女娼,胡作非为?难道真的等待天遣?他们有普通人没有的资源,自然也就得付出些代价。
请问他违反了哪一条你所说的普遍道德?一个未婚男孩有几个女朋友就是风流成性?真好笑!
不嘛,领导您在多讲几句,乍一看以为你在笑话我,在仔细一听,您说的好过瘾啊,肯定是中央领导视察讲话。
他的道歉,怨大于了谦。
为他不值。
Thank you, 陈冠希, 娱乐了国人, open 了 eyes
路过就说一句。他是ABC,中文说不溜,所以用英文倒不是楼主想的那样。真的不在意那就不用出来道歉了。 个人其实觉得他也是受害者,挺可怜。
我个人感觉,如果在国际上讲英文可以理解,在香港发布会上,讲英文为了流利也是有可能,但是潜意识里,肯定是心理上有排斥了,在习惯了的英语上找安全感。
因为人人都觉得无聊,恨八卦太少。
CGX is single, the rest of the women were all single at the time they played. Every adult did that, and mostly enjoyed. As long CGX didn't intensionally release and post these photoes, he didn't violate any law.
Anyone who publicize other people's private photo without consent should be pursued.
There's no justice there.
别那么上纲上线。各个地方的风气不同而已。说起“虚伪”,娱乐圈能把垃圾包装成“金童玉女”,虚伪吗?其实,很多指责从这种“金童玉女”的反差而来。我没心指责cgx,你说的也有一定道理,但还是不能完全苟同。
娱乐圈本来就是打扮出来的,迷惑的就是那些愿意被迷惑的人,愚昧盲目的崇拜,抽自己的嘴巴也只能是无知的表现,只怪包装公司的礼品盒设计的太漂亮是无处投诉的。
散播图片者比他更加不如。但他的罪名是普遍道德上的风流成性。他私人的作风,在无外人知晓下,就不违反现有的普遍道德吗?道德只在外人知晓下才成问题吗?
Clinton只是有此丑闻但并没有这种照片。倘若他的照片满世界飞的话,恐怕早在Vote of No Confidence前就辞职了。CGX是名人,但其违反普遍道德的事情被大家知道后,还能继续作榜样吗?
当然普遍道德观是人订的所以结果是要么改变大陆的普遍道德观,要么是他退出明星圈不再出名(也就没有这么多人评论他了)。哪个更易先行?
大陆普遍的道德观?---------?
陈冠希是名人,娱乐圈的名人,名人不一定是榜样,如果说道榜样,当从柏杨先生的丑陋的中国人说起。
成龙先生对着私生女也不过说了一句,犯了一个男人的错误而已。标榜,在被众星捧月,生活糜烂的娱乐圈去找榜样?你想他成为什么样子的榜样。
娱乐圈的乱,不止是大陆,全世界都有绯闻。
大陆的道德观,我看一时半会是很难改变,陈冠希即便退出娱乐圈,他早就出了名,继续,他还会出名,你认为娱乐圈的走向是一个人的评论多少所左右的嘛?芙蓉姐姐还越闹越红呢,这就是娱乐圈的怪象,丑的不丑,没准还更火呢。
陈冠希何错之有?" 他缺少责任感! 另外还SB. 人家好好的姑娘就因为他的变态要求和行为及愚蠢弄的下半辈子没了希望, 多年努力付出付之东流. 更别说对青少年的健康成长的恶劣影响了.
好好的姑娘是成年人,并且他们的要求是否变态?青少年的性知识本来就是应该普及的,虽然不是教育他们手拿摄像机,但是也不是一个陈冠希等娱乐圈中纸醉金迷等人控制得了的,性成熟本是瓜熟蒂落的事情,归根究底如何树立正确的人生观才是最重要的。
Clinton只是有此丑闻但并没有这种照片。倘若他的照片满世界飞的话,恐怕早在Vote of No Confidence前就辞职了。CGX是名人,但其违反普遍道德的事情被大家知道后,还能继续作榜样吗?
当然普遍道德观是人订的所以结果是要么改变大陆的普遍道德观,要么是他退出明星圈不再出名(也就没有这么多人评论他了)。哪个更易先行?