我们不能鼓励至少不应该纵容此种事情.

我们不能鼓励至少不应该纵容此种事情.

一个女人, 一个母亲, 杀死了自己四个可爱的孩子, 目的是报复伤害离她而去的丈夫.

在美国被判了无罪!!!

女人可爱, 但不全是弱的. 伤起人来, 是狠的, 不应只是因为女人就被纵容.

她生了四个漂亮可爱的男孩, 但婚姻出现问题, 丈夫离她而去. 她想的是杀死孩子, 因为她知道那是丈夫最不能失去的, 是会真的报复伤害她认为的 “负心人”.

她不是把她们一起淹死, 而是一个一个的. 她打算自己自杀, 却没了勇气去死. 试问, 敢于一个个杀死亲子, 是多大的狠毒, 不敢面对杀死自己, 被称做良心发现. 玩笑吗? 不是, 是真实的证词. 多完美的. 体现了她的弱.

那是谋杀呀!!! 死个孩子. 一个个的…加上精神问题, 逃避了刑法.  谋杀的冷酷又那里少了法律的冷酷呢, 只是对无辜的人吧? 

想过那父亲吗?

想过为和男人离开女人吗? 不全是喜新厌旧的, 不全是无家庭观念的. 女人呢? 好喜欢她们, 离不开她们, 但有些事, 我们男人无法面对, 选择离开, 有的并非喜悦.

试想, 这个判决, 杀四子无罪; 想那女老师, 和13岁孩子上床, 轻判; 如果是男性犯的如此罪, 会如何呢??? 只想PETERSON的案吧.

在美国女人的权利太大了, 应该保护, 却不应该纵容. 社会会如何面对?

好朋友离婚, 失去一切, 大屋, 名车, 孩子, 每月还要交纳钱, 供无工作的她保持原有的生活标准. 离婚原因是她的不贞.

哎, 唉, 哀!! 现代社会的悲哀. 太多, 原本好的经文, 被如此利用. 社会福利, 辛勤的人纳税, 懒惰的人月月吃福利, 免费医疗. 生了孩子不养, 照领政府公益, 孩子在街上, 不毒不抢才怪. 为何我们的保险如此贵, 因为太多的人没车险. 有了勤劳, 有了财产, 有了道德, 有了顾及; 不去勤劳, 无财无业, 不在乎所有, 享受的人生. 一次, CHICAGO新闻, 一个公益的楼要重新建, 里面的人要靠自己活六个月. 所有的哪些烂人跑出来示威. 一身体健康的26岁女人说, 我如何去活, 没屋没公益钱, 我只好去街头卖淫, 如果市长如此做. 试问, 多少的快餐店需要人, 试问多少的语言不同的南美人一星期找到割草的工作. 美国饿不死人, 只要你不懒惰, 但懒惰的人不应该活在勤奋人的肩上. 再比如, 移民法, 非法的反要和合法的同样机会. 因为大多工作移民是印度和中国人, 所以他们的绿卡无限期延迟, 而先办理其他地区的. 这公平吗? 再言, 打胎, 本是自然的事情, 让女人自己决定就是, 却在很多地方定非法, 让多少15岁以下的女孩当了妈妈. 有言, 干细胞研究, 伦理, 但自己不能自救吗? 人活到120岁, 工作到85-90不好吗? 对这的反对和反对加利略有和不同? 呜呼, 人在违背自然还是在侮辱她呢?

法律!! 已经不在为正义而言. 为小人所利用. 应该提倡自然法律初衷, 以血还血, 以牙还牙, 勤者多得, 懒者饿亡. 社会公益是必须的, 给哪些真需要的, 而不是为人所挟.

[都是国人]

• 区别好坏女人的标准,与区别好人坏人的标准 -Yuan- ♀ (316 bytes) (3 reads) 2006-07-26
不应该有什么不同.都是人, 都不容易.
这是我个人的观点.请兄弟斟酌.
我的故事中的女人与你的故事中的女人,好与坏之分在于人性是否抿灭: 是好人与坏人之别.

如果强调女人的特质,我的故事中的她是个失败的女人.好在她已经能够面对现实,坦然承认失败.她说她很侥幸结了一回婚因之得以生养一个孩子.生命得以完整.
再次多谢兄弟!


• 她没失败, 如你说的做了她要做的, 她是好人, 因为除了自己 -都是国人- ♂ (100 bytes) (0 reads) 2006-07-26
她没勇气去伤别人, 也保护了自己...

孩子感谢她的...

她也一定感谢孩子呢...

不是吗?

[都是国人]

• 女人也是人,怎可超越人伦的裁判!你国法律让她逃脱了 -Yuan- ♀ (818 bytes) (15 reads) 2006-07-26
是法律和执法有问题.肯定有男人也如此逃脱的,所以我们不能总结说因为她是女人就被社会纵容了.
只不过真想不通她如何还就这么活下去了: 自己的孩子呀,一个一个地...你们知道孩子看妈妈的眼神充满怎样的信任吗!!!

有一个我非常了解的中国女人,也得了产后抑郁症,丈夫事业正不顺利的时候,实在无心理她...一次心神恍惚中,她抱着儿子哭一场,说:妈妈好可怜,死活都不会有人在意的,死了也就影响了你,活着苦着也没实在啥意义,要不咱两一起死了罢. 她抱着孩子走到阳台上,从十楼往下看, 再看看孩子,孩子正幸福地搂着她的脖子,充满信任地看她... 她吓坏了,跑回卧室把孩子放在床上,不敢再让自己的'魔爪'碰孩子一下!

不为救自己也得救孩子,她请丈夫家人帮助,她从此有意识地不单独与孩子在一起.
因为即使理智失去了,人性也未失去,她活了下来,活得越来越好,孩子也长大了,跟着父亲,却与她也非常亲密, 是母子,又更象朋友.每当想到当年十楼阳台上的一幕,她都会放声大哭一场.


• 顶!! 好女人...说她呢....顶是夸妹子的铁 -都是国人- ♂ (0 bytes) (3 reads) 2006-07-26
• Still crying, thanks for the feedback, -Yuan- ♀ (122 bytes) (8 reads) 2006-07-26
feel better now.
故事中的这个她不认为自己是个好女人.每一次 想起那件事她都控制不住大哭,我也不知道她这是后怕还是至今自责.

• 她是个好女人, 绝对是的 -都是国人- ♂ (0 bytes) (2 reads) 2006-07-26

[都是国人]

我的看法, 不见的对, 大家看看官方原本吧..人心自有公平

Jury finds Yates not guilty in drownings
By ANGELA K. BROWN, Associated Press Writer




Andrea Yates was found not guilty by reason of insanity Wednesday in her second murder trial for the bathtub drownings of her young children.

Yates, 42, will now be committed to a state mental hospital, with periodic hearings before a judge to determine whether she should be released. An earlier jury had found her guilty of murder, but the verdict was overturned on appeal.

The defense never disputed that Yates drowned her five children one by one in the bathtub of their Houston-area home. But they said she suffered from severe postpartum psychosis and, in a delusional state, believed Satan was inside her and was trying to save them from hell.

Yates stared wide-eyed in court Wednesday as the verdict was read. She then bowed her head and wept quietly.

The children's father said the jury had reached the right conclusion.

"The jury looked past what happened and looked at why it happened," Rusty Yates told reporters outside the courthouse. "Prosecutors had the truth of the first day and stopped there. Yes, she was psychotic. That's the whole truth."

Rusty Yates divorced Andrea Yates after the children's June 2001 deaths and recently remarried. He said they are still "friends" and reminisce about the children.

The jury, split evenly men to women, deliberated for about 12 hours over three days before reaching its verdict. On Wednesday, the jurors listened again to the state definition of insanity and asked to see pictures of the five young children: baby Mary, 2-year-old Luke, 3-year-old Paul, 5-year-old John and 7-year-old Noah.

Prosecutors had maintained that Yates failed to meet the state's definition of insanity: that a severe mental illness prevents someone who is committing a crime from knowing that it is wrong.

The jury had not been told that if they found her insane that Yates would be committed to a mental institution for treatment. If found guilty of murder she would have faced life in prison.

"I'm very disappointed," prosecutor Kaylynn Williford said. "For five years, we've tried to seek justice for these children."

In her first trial, Yates was convicted of capital murder and sentenced to life in prison. An appeals court overturned the conviction last year because erroneous testimony about a "Law & Order" television episode that didn't exist could have influenced the jury.

Defense attorneys presented much of the same evidence as in the first trial, including half a dozen psychiatrists who testified that Yates was so psychotic that she didn't know her actions were wrong. They said that in her delusional mind, she thought killing the youngsters was right.

Some testified about her two hospitalizations after suicide attempts in 1999, not long after her fourth child was born. At the time, the family lived in a converted bus. Dr. Eileen Starbranch, a psychiatrist, again testified about how she warned Yates and her husband not to have more children because her postpartum psychosis would probably return.

Yates' stayed in a mental hospital for about two weeks in April and 10 days in May 2001. Psychiatrists testified that she was catatonic and wouldn't eat and that her postpartum condition from Mary's birth in November worsened after her father died in March.

Yates did not testify. But a few state and defense psychiatrists who evaluated Yates played some videotaped segments for jurors.

During a July 2001 jail interview, Yates told psychiatrist Lucy Puryear that her children had not been progressing normally because she was a bad mother, and that she killed them because "in their innocence, they would go to heaven."

The state's key witness was Dr. Michael Welner, a forensic psychiatrist who interviewed Yates for two days in May. He testified that Yates killed the youngsters because she felt overwhelmed and inadequate as a mother, not for altruistic reasons.

Welner said that although Yates may have been psychotic on the day of the murders, it wasn't until the next day in jail that she talked about Satan, wanting to be executed and saving her kids from hell. He said the hallucination may have been triggered by the stresses of being naked in a cell on suicide watch and realizing what she had done.

Welner said Yates knew her actions were wrong and showed it in multiple ways: waiting until her husband left for work to kill them, covering the bodies with a sheet and calling 911 soon after the crime.

Prosecutors also brought back a key witness from the first trial, Dr. Park Dietz, the forensic psychiatrist whose testimony led to her conviction being overturned. The judge barred attorneys in this trial from mentioning the earlier testimony problem.

Dietz again testified that Yates knew killing her children was wrong because she knew it was a sin.



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