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先问奥巴马医疗保险计划支持者一个问题:
如果你认为你不断使用某种产品/服务/资源是你的权力的话，请问，有谁会认为自己是应该为你提供这些产品/服务/资源的？当然不会有，所以你把希望寄托在政府身上，让政府来强制性地为象你这样的人来提供你的所需。当然，你会把自己扮演成一个社会的受害者或边缘者，你是所谓弱势群体之一。你认为你的敌人是大公司和富人阶层。因为这些人控制了你想要得到的产品/服务/资源。当政客们许诺你政府会强迫大公司和富人阶层向你提供你的所需时，你觉得这些政客是你的救星。
问题在于：
1。任何产品/服务/资源都是有限的，都是有价值的。你使用的越多，你就应该付出的越多，而不是越少。比如说，医疗保险和汽车保险或任何保险，如果你总生病老出车祸，你的保费就得涨，因为你使用的比别人多。就好象你去买菜，你少买少吃少付钱。 多买多吃您就得多付钱。您要是觉得您该多吃的那部分应该免费提供的话，要是你自己是提供者，您决不会答应。连您自己都做不到的事情，凭什么就要求别人去做？这不是蛮不讲理吗？！
2。政府的权力是会被滥用的，因为政客和官僚们所关心的不是你，而是他们自己。当一个有限的产品/服务/资源被政府所控制的话，提供这个产品/服务/资源的市场就没有竞争。 没有竞争的市场不叫市场，叫分配。所谓按需分配这个乌托邦思想是不可能实现的。 因为一，资源是有限的，需求是无限的。政府不可能使每个需要的人都得到他们所需，结果只能是限量分配凭票供应。中国改革开放以前就是这个局面。二，当有限的资源的分配被政府官员们所控制的时候，他们贪污腐化是不可避免的。因为总有一部分人靠行贿等手段会比别人多得到一些有限的资源，真正需要的那部分群体因为没有能力去行贿而彻底失去他们应该得到的那部分。这是为什么社会主义大锅饭制度制造更多穷人的主要原因之一。
3。所谓平等是不会使社会完美和谐的。因为任何一个制度都不可能是所有人都满意，因此，完美和绝对的和谐是根本不成立的。 人们要接受的是对现有制度的缺陷和不和谐的忍受能力是多大。能忍受得了，社会自然会和谐很多。不能忍受，社会的冲突在所难免。在任何一个社会里，总有一部分人的利益会为另一部分人的利益让步。合理还是不合理，民主的制度会自我调节。有限的产品/服务/资源能覆盖多少需求要靠市场来调节。太多的行政管理只能带来价格的上涨，而不是产品量的增加。要让产品量上来，投资产品开发的人必须有利可图。产品量的增加的结果只能是价格的下降，最后得益的是需要产品的人。
政府从来就不是万能的。事实证明，美国政府是非常低能的。任何能由市场竞争来达到平衡的事凡是经政府一插手，全部破产。美国的社会安全系统，MEDICARE，MEDICAID，退伍军人保险，房屋贷款，有一个算一个，没有不破产的。
美国医疗保险要改革，但决不能是政府取而代之。
要改革，就要让市场规律来发挥作用。没有竞争，就没有市场。没有市场，就没有选择。
奥巴马不顾广大人民反对一意孤行地要强制推行由政府控制的全民保险，最后的结果是真正需要得到帮助的美国老年病人和重病人的利益会被侵犯，不信您就等着瞧吧。
"真要实行全民保险也可以，但我要求总统和国会议员也参加，并在同一个计划内，享受同等的待遇。" haha, they already have rejected that idea.
"而看医生不付钱是一种下贱的行为，跟抢劫有什么区别？？？"
well said.
I''ve learned that credentials on the wall do not make you a decent human being.
回复北燕西飞.的评论:
"By the way, I am not even college graduated"
There are huge percentage of US nurses are imported from other countries, such as Philippines, China...etc. Believe or not, we are still importing every year!
Regarding your comment on that “only the U.S. has the best doctors and nurses in the world”All I can say is that you reallllllly make me laugh, and I laughed so hard after I have learned that you have TWO doctor's degreeS
I really don’t know who you talkED about! By the way, I am not even college graduated
I'm not insulting every chinese, i only talked about some. You know who i talk about?
Oh "My tiny little brain"? I have 2 doctor's degree, and my salary is more than 98% of population. I don't think my brain function too bad.
回复北燕西飞.的评论:
In order to save my valuable time, I will only respond your comment on number 8, but that doesn’t mean your other comments are conceivable. US are immigrants’ country, and more than 12% populations are immigrants, including you! So we can import doctors and nurses as many as we needed,we do not have to depend on our own resources.
One more thing, you ARE insulting most Chinese here with your stupid comment “but alots of chinese here really don't know too much about the american government or politics “if you don’t believe that is insulting, something is wrong with your perception, and I believe most of Chinese in the States are 藏龙卧虎,精英! Who knows more American government and politics than your tiny brain can imagine!
1. "Illegal immigrants" is another issue to resolve. Whether public option would cover them or not is not clear. But as you said, they have already been partially covered at present anyway.
"illegal immigrant" is not another issue if they are cost tons of $$ from tax payer. unfortually, liberals choose to ignore it.
2. Insurance is a tool to help people including yourself. Your irresponsibility has nothing to be proud of.
Trillion $ is the estimation for years ahead, not for each year. The startup cost will finally get long term saving.
You have no right of calling me irresponsible. I choose not to buy insurance because i'm young and health. If i become sick, i can afford health care with my saving
3. Public option gives a choice to small businesses, not force them giving up their current one if they have. How their costs can increase?
Public and private service can co-exist for different needs.
Yes, ideally it could exist. But if obamacare success, most of employers will stop insure their empolyees to save money, they will just tell them to get on government's health care. Private insurace will collaps.
As matter of fact, the problem with the insurance industrial is there are too much government regulations, if the consumers are allow to purchase insurance across the states, it will create healthy competition.
4. It's one myth that hospitals would suddenly line up with millions of patients under healthcare reform. Uninsured is only 1/6 of population. Your line could add only 1/6 longer, not counting the increase of healthcare resources.
7. High rocketing healthcare cost indicates a kind of monopoly profit hanging above us. Can you beg them a lower premium for you? You have the only choice to give them more money!
go back to my response to your #3
8. It takes time for the completion of the reform. As we know, pre-med is the most popular major right now. Don't under-estimate our new generation.
haha, premed is the popular, everyone can choose it, But you know how many people actually made it to medical school? Thanks to our high quality medical training program.
One more thing, you ARE insulting most Chinese here with your stupid comment “but alots of chinese here really don't know too much about the american government or politics “if you don’t believe that is insulting, something is wrong with your perception, and I believe most of Chinese in the States are 藏龙卧虎,精英! Who knows more American government and politics than your tiny brain can imagine!
1. "Illegal immigrants" is another issue to resolve. Whether public option would cover them or not is not clear. But as you said, they have already been partially covered at present anyway.
2. Insurance is a tool to help people including yourself. Your irresponsibility has nothing to be proud of.
Trillion $ is the estimation for years ahead, not for each year. The startup cost will finally get long term saving.
3. Public option gives a choice to small businesses, not force them giving up their current one if they have. How their costs can increase?
Public and private service can co-exist for different needs.
4. It's one myth that hospitals would suddenly line up with millions of patients under healthcare reform. Uninsured is only 1/6 of population. Your line could add only 1/6 longer, not counting the increase of healthcare resources.
7. High rocketing healthcare cost indicates a kind of monopoly profit hanging above us. Can you beg them a lower premium for you? You have the only choice to give them more money!
8. It takes time for the completion of the reform. As we know, pre-med is the most popular major right now. Don't under-estimate our new generation.
1. 无保险者在现有制度下只是小病没保障，大急病仍然由国家负担，这部分钱本来就花在他们身上。
No true! Government only request hospitals to provide emergency care to people who don't have insurance. They don't provide chronicle care.
A majority of $$ is spending on illegal immigrants who don't pay tax.
2. 无保险者买不起高价保险，但如果有可负担保险，他们就能支付部分健保费用。如果每个家庭平均仅支付一到二千元一年，每年就有高达100亿以上的健保新投入。
Not true! A big portion of small business owner or young people choose not to purchase insurance, I'm one of them. I can afford it, but I don't want to. I like to have the freedom to not to purchase insurance. "100亿以上?" that is far less than the trillion dollars even Obama's government project.
3. 众多小企业深受健保压迫，有些被迫放弃给员工的健保福利，对企业和员工都不利。如果有可负担保险，他们也能支付部分健保费用，保障员工健康，提高生产力。小企业创造最多的工作机会，是经济复苏的希望。
If health care reform pass, government controlled health care will replaced private insurance company. The small business will stop providing health care to any of their employee. Small insurance companies will collaps, You have no choice, but rely on your government.
Furthermore, most of small business owners are placed at high tax brackets, they burden will increase more to fund the program.
4. 增加健保覆盖，有助于预防疾病传播和阻止小病发展为大病恶病。这是一个多赢的前景。
Increasing coverages for more people also mean some of the cares are covered by your insurace company right now won't be available to you in the future. You will have less options when comes to your medical treatment.
Older people and people with chronical disease maynot get the cares because of it.
5. 有了公共选项，私人保险的垄断被打破，现有投保者也有望获得更好的保险服务。私人保险作得好，也可以象私立大学那样立于不倒之地，怎会都被公立服务“消灭”呢？消灭的应该是价高质劣的服务吧。
Please refer to my point #3.
6. 公共健保对于药商暴利有制约作用，不象私人健保只会转嫁高药价。目前药商联盟已经在政府压力下同意将走薄利多销的道路，增加覆盖为此创造了条件。
7. 公共健保增加一些管理开支，但是没有私人保险那种日益增长的利润。利润是拿走没话说、增长不见顶，管理开支和浪费却是可以制约和纠正的。选票可以换总统和官员，不能换老板。
You can choose which private insurance company to purchase insurance from, but you can't choose not to be controlled by your government! At least not until next election.
8. 增加覆盖还要求有更多的医生护士等健保人员，增加这个行业的工作。增加的工作就会创造新税收。
HAHAHA funny !
so you realize there will be more doctors and nurses needed? you think if obama want to health care reform today, he can hire more doctor's and nurses tomorrow?
It takes years of school and training to be in health care field. They are the ones in top 5% of their class. Health care providers are in shortage as it is now. If you decrease their income with Obamacare, only bottom 5% of student will go to the profession.
2. 无保险者买不起高价保险，但如果有可负担保险，他们就能支付部分健保费用。如果每个家庭平均仅支付一到二千元一年，每年就有高达100亿以上的健保新投入。
3. 众多小企业深受健保压迫，有些被迫放弃给员工的健保福利，对企业和员工都不利。如果有可负担保险，他们也能支付部分健保费用，保障员工健康，提高生产力。小企业创造最多的工作机会，是经济复苏的希望。
4. 增加健保覆盖，有助于预防疾病传播和阻止小病发展为大病恶病。这是一个多赢的前景。
5. 有了公共选项，私人保险的垄断被打破，现有投保者也有望获得更好的保险服务。私人保险作得好，也可以象私立大学那样立于不倒之地，怎会都被公立服务“消灭”呢？消灭的应该是价高质劣的服务吧。
6. 公共健保对于药商暴利有制约作用，不象私人健保只会转嫁高药价。目前药商联盟已经在政府压力下同意将走薄利多销的道路，增加覆盖为此创造了条件。
7. 公共健保增加一些管理开支，但是没有私人保险那种日益增长的利润。利润是拿走没话说、增长不见顶，管理开支和浪费却是可以制约和纠正的。选票可以换总统和官员，不能换老板。
8. 增加覆盖还要求有更多的医生护士等健保人员，增加这个行业的工作。增加的工作就会创造新税收。
"没有性生活而活着，比S去还要惨。。。"
那么有一天你做不动了, 你就去死吗? 你总有那一天吧? 或者有一天你的小第第得病了, 你就自杀吗?
"医疗保健是基本人权要保障，那性生活是不是是健康成年人的更日常更基本的权利呢？"
如果你老公得了阳委, 那岂不是违反了你的更日常更基本的权利呢?
如果你老公出差三个月, 那岂不是也违反了你的更日常更基本的权利呢? Either one, call me please!
"什么？去Townhall 有人给报销？？我老公也去了，怎么不见他领钱回来？难不成自己偷偷搞小金库。。。"
Hahaha...glad to hear that! Either your 老公 too freaking dumb or just like what you said that "难不成自己偷偷搞小金库" Either way will not be good news for you!
另外，真要实行全民保险也可以，但我要求总统和国会议员也参加，并在同一个计划内，享受同等的待遇。
而看医生不付钱是一种下贱的行为，跟抢劫有什么区别？？？
瞧打的这比方，真低俗，让我都瞧不起你。
另，就这么低俗的比方都没有说明问题，没有性生活不会死人，看不起病可是会死人的，这能一样类比吗？
仙子就是仙子, 讲的都不是人话;老吾老，以及人之老；幼吾幼，以及人之幼.你没有同情心也难怪了,毕尽你是仙不是人; 但是为啥别人关心一下别人你也受不了? 难到是小时候....
要让井底之蛙跳出来是很困难,真的.但是通过讨论我们至少可以知道那蛙是谁...即使它化装成仙.
welcom. haha
医疗方面的确需要改革但是不需要政府来建立另外一套体制。// conservative from liberal satate california floating by
Good point. Thanks!!!
Most liberals are mentally disordered. There is no way they will listen anything different than what they believe.
However, this is America, we live here too. They can't shut us up!
Yes indeed!!! Thanks for your comment!
哈哈哈哈，妙语连珠，说的好！
I'm totally with you...
well, it's hard to argue anything with mobs knowing nothing about history and economics, so I'll just tease them.
对不起拉 noso, 别怪我言语粗俗在这儿捣蛋。。。
什么？去Townhall 有人给报销？？我老公也去了，怎么不见他领钱回来？难不成自己偷偷搞小金库。。。
你们的意思 right to pursue happiness 就是要保障happiness。 医疗保健是基本人权要保障，那性生活是不是是健康成年人的更日常更基本的权利呢？那么多单身汉，是不是政府都要来管一管保一保呢？你们有公德心同情心，是要把女儿贡出来，还是要把老婆来共一共呢为政府解决难题呢？什么？没门？那让强奸犯性饥渴都去你家门口转悠去！
哈哈，难道你们是还没有？等着参加ACORN 站队后O8给分一俩个？难怪呢，指着push 医保过了轮到你自个儿捞实在好处啦。等着吧。
No offensive, but alots of chinese here really don't know too much about the american government or politics, they are only here to insult people who disagree with them. How is it possible to have an argument with them?
Good job, Noso and a few other people! you guys keep post good stuff here!
如此冷酷的告诉那个问他对她100岁但是有强烈求生欲望的老祖母如何安排的妇人说：
你还是吃吃止痛药吧。 奥巴马不关心老弱病残AT ALL!
另外，尽管我生活在LIBERAL横行的加州，我还是孜孜不倦地企图说服我的LIBERAL朋
友， 我相信人心总是善良的， 道理总是可以说清楚的， 但是有些人真是太“执着”
了，我开始相信“YOU CANT ARGUE WITH A LIBERAL”
现在这些人又被蛊惑起来，尤其是那些干瘪又能干嚎的white trash最适合他们的demographic profile.
我不知道这里的某些年轻人士，你们是傻还是迂，跟着那些贪婪私欲的大佬们的指挥棒上窜下跳，甘心为他们做卫道士。那些去townhall meeting 捣乱组织者的经费是有人报销的。你们在这里反对医保改革，保险公司的老总免你的copay 不成？
我家门口的路是PRIVATE ROAD，胆敢在PRIVATE PROPERTY上胡闹，小心腿被枪打断。
米国现在还是个法制国家。
（二）你也许会说，别的产业的CEO更高。对了，这就“不正常的竞争”。CEO们互作董事会的董事，互相支持利用，零散的个人持股者又有什么用啊？（1）公司业绩好，他们拿的多；公司业绩不好，他们也不少拿（拍屁股走人拿的更多）。（2）只要会计账面上好，他们拿的多，谁管以后的事，反正我已钱到手，不好了你也不能把钱要回来。这也造成了很多CEO目光短浅，不顾公司的长远利益。当然也有不少好的CEO，他们大多不太在乎或已经很有钱了。我看应该把董事会和执行部门真正完全分开是十分必要的。CEO的实权太大了。为什么某些家族企业公司办的好哪？公司，董事会，CEO的利益一致。不是家族企业公司也要有个办法才成。
（三）我支持PUBLIC OPTION。因为如果我自己买一个和大公司一样的保险，我要比大公司一年多付7-8千美金.我还是我，很少看病，为什麽不能也给我们组成一个团体哪？
（四）从CNN的一位专家的节目里得知，每个人付给医院的钱中有10-20%的是替没保险的人付的。如果没保险的人占总人口的10-20%，你现在已经在替他们付保险，为什么不让他们也加入，即使付的少一些。
想到那儿写到那儿，仅供参考。
"founding father 定义的人权有 life, liberty and right to pursue happiness. 医疗保险属于哪一条基本人权？"
你的 life,和happniess的定义是什么呢? 你是仙,我是人,我知道生病看不起医生,不是 happiness;也就谈不上life 了. 如果是在非洲也就认命了, 但在世界最强大的美国,这中间就有讲不过去的东东了.你的书背的不错,希望不要是填鸭式教育的结果.
至于屋主指责的"偷换概念"一说, 真的就是操练不出你的那一亩三分田. 医疗保险, 医疗保健都只是不同的手段的名字; 其实在这场争论中,不是争论方法手段的问题, 而是什么人受益的问题.看来屋主同我们的奥总统一样的现有政策受益人, 不一样的是奥总除了维护自己的利益之外, 也关心那些弱势群体; 喔, 还有,他是总统, 你不是.
全民医保很可能会像隋炀帝的大运河，最终拖垮美国，导致护卫美元体系的美国军力下降，使美元提前退出结算位置，国家财政彻底崩盘，金融寡头破釜沉舟，大举颠覆竞争国家的政府，陷世界于灭亡。
我在美国，所指的founding father当然是这个国家的founding father,恶心着了是你自找的。
打仗的预算是国防，是每个政府的基本职能之一。我不是说伊战该打，要我说，不是反战吗？奥巴马现在早就该从阿富汗伊拉克都撤了。但是一旦打了，国会又不批预算，不是送人去死吗？
提供全民医保是福利，福利是社会主义/共产主义国家的职能，不属于资本主义国家的基本职能之一。我从社会主义国家来，也享受过社会主义国家的医保福利。我觉得现在美国的医疗保险制度有问题，成本过高，需要改革，但是改到社会主义，我不支持。
that's all. hope it's simple enough that you can understand and don't need to bad mouth people to make your point (if there is any to make).
我在美国，所指的founding father当然是这个国家的founding father,恶心着了是你自找的。
打仗的预算是国防，是每个政府的基本职能之一。我不是说伊战该打，要我说，不是反战吗？奥巴马现在早就该从阿富汗伊拉克都撤了。但是一旦打了，国会又不批预算，不是送人去死吗？
提供全民医保是福利，福利是社会主义/共产主义国家的职能，不属于资本主义国家的基本职能之一。我从社会主义国家来，也享受过社会主义国家的医保福利。我觉得现在美国的医疗保险制度有问题，成本过高，需要改革，但是改到社会主义，我不支持。
that's all. hope it's simple enough that you can understand and don't need to bad mouth people to make your point (if there is any to make).
两个月前我被邻居一只小宠物狗咬了一小口，去了急诊室做了基本处理和预防。等账单来了一看，1300刀！还是享受了30%的无保险折扣以后。可怜的狗主脸都绿了。
我也知道，医院的呆账太多，所以账单就大。而呆账多又是因为很多没保险的穷人急诊的钱收不回来。而穷人不买保险是因为医保太贵。而医保贵是因为西医的对抗式治疗方式就是向着高费用发展。所以，以愚人之见，只有广泛普及中医养生，建立国家赞助的预防医疗和养生体系，才是根本解决之道。
如果把一些得病而无钱看病的人(肺结合, 禽流感, 猪流感, 肝炎…) , 让他们去你家(潇洒人生路, 桃花仙, 还有那个叫高大大的) 门口附近 散步, 你们愿意吗? (前提是你们不知道他们得病了)
美国的社会安全系统，MEDICARE，MEDICAID，退伍军人保险，房屋贷款, 都还没有破产啊?! 你是道听途说 说是社会安全系统将要破产, 还没哪!
任何事物都有寿命期的, 包括制度和条例, 每个人都会死吧, 你家的电器, 电视, 冰箱 等等都有寿命吧, 不可能永久用吧? 制度和条例也一样有寿命期的, 一个好的制度和条例也许10年20年有作用, 过了一定时期也就” 破产”了.
一万年前, 任何人没有医疗, 五千年前, 几个人吧, 二千年前, 十几个人吧, 一千年前, 几百人吧, 1945年, 几万人吧, 1970年, 60% MABYBE, 1980 more than 60% ….2009 全民医保!!!!
不要叫什么” founding father” 做为亚裔应该知道他是白人的 “founding father”, 回家多学学历史.多恶心啊!张口这样叫.
什么，什么？你没钱？没钱就该干活挣钱，对不对？
医生给你看病是要收钱的，否则医生回家吃什么？
什么，什么？你不想干活挣钱？你要别人干活挣钱来替你买医保？？？
你是一个穷凶极恶的强盗！
享受医疗应该是人权，前提是每个人要自己干活挣钱买医保。人人生而平等，谁也不能压迫谁，不管你是什么人！
你凭什么把参加 Town Hall meeting 的人叫 trash？这是美国政治制度中最好的工具之一。看来还真的有比某些国会议员更无知狂妄愚蠢的东西啊
founding father 定义的人权有 life, liberty and right to pursue happiness. 医疗保险属于哪一条基本人权？
作为你所定义的“部分人”之一，我享有我的医疗保险，但这不是特权，这是我辛苦工作后由我的公司和我自己腰包里掏钱买的。不劳而获让别的纳税人替你出钱付医疗保险才叫“特权”！
"right to pursue happiness" is not equal to "right to gauranteee happiness". 你有权利追求幸福（包括吃穿教育，医疗保险，结婚生子，etc. etc.)，政府不应该成为你追求这些幸福的阻碍，但不是说政府或者其他人应该替你包办这些事儿。奥巴马的全民医保是要替少数人包办这些幸福，但是恰恰成为了其他大多数愿意自食其力的人民追求他们的幸福的阻碍。
谢谢评论。
问题就在这里。医疗保险不是医疗保健。美国对穷人，退伍军人，老人都有医疗保健计划，但都破产了。医疗保险是商品，不是福利。奥巴马要让商品变福利，最后的结局是破产，大家全玩儿完。
鱼目混珠，偷换概念，医疗保险不是医疗保健，您懂吗？
不错, 医疗是人权, 吃饭穿衣更是人权, 旅游娱乐也是人权.问题是仅仅因为你是人就该免费享受这些吗? 有人免费享受,就必然有人免费提供, 你自己愿意做免费的提供者吗?
基本上, 世界上高福利的国家经济都缺乏竞争力和活力.本来他们的基础好,应该干得更好才对.
过去加拿大经济不振的原因之一就是很多加拿大的人才和投资都流向了美国.加拿大人少地大,可以靠出卖资源撑下去,美国只能在吃老本中慢慢耗死了.
另外福利条款通过容易,等发现有问题要收回则比登天还难.
你这奥饭除了人身攻击外要还能说别的算你有些歪门邪道。你还真以为自己不是什么垃圾吗？ 很可笑。
完全支持凡人悟空的观点
首先,支持奥巴马医疗保险计划的人不是弱势群体,他们是关心弱势群体的人;因为在你的一亩三分田里你是听不到弱势群体的声音的,请问你上一次接触到因没有医保而饱受痛苦的人是什么时间? 其次享受医疗应该是人权,而不是部分人的特权. 屋主的论调很象当年反对黑人平权的人讲的话. 如果没有黑人平权运动的成功的话, 我们华人以及混血人在美国会有今天的权利吗?;再者,请问,有关公众利益的是那一件不是通过这样或那样的政府行为来实现的?
This is why the Democrats are lashing out like wounded water buffalo. Rasmussen’s latest poll shows ObamaCare dropping like a rock in public opinion. As in approaching two to one against. Worst of all for Obama’s plan, the ratio is three to one against among non-affiliated voters.
Thirty-two percent (32%) of voters nationwide favor a single-payer health care system where the federal government provides coverage for everyone. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 57% are opposed to a single-payer plan.
Fifty-two percent (52%) believe such a system would lead to a lower quality of care while 13% believe care would improve. Twenty-seven percent (27%) think that the quality of care would remain about the same.
Forty-five percent (45%) also say a single-payer system would lead to higher health care costs while 24% think lower costs would result. Nineteen percent (19%) think prices would remain about the same.
There’s wide political disagreement over the single-payer issue. Sixty-two percent (62%) of Democrats favor a single-payer system, but 87% of Republicans are opposed to one. As for those not affiliated with either major party, 22% favor a single-payer approach while 63% are opposed.
This is why the Democrats are howling madly and trying desperately to shift blame away from themselves. This is why some are hiding from constituents while others are preemptively demonizing anyone who disagrees with them. If the public polls are this bad, how much worse are their internal polls?
I’d bet they are staring at electoral disaster and they know it. If they pass this monstrous plan against these kind of poll numbers, there are going to be a lot - a real lot - of unemployed Democrats in 2010.
No doubt they are planning on passing a former Democratic lawmaker stimulus plan in the near future. Just in case. They’ll need one.
please do your homework. : )
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I refuse to respond any stupid personal attack like yours.
You are "the people", right? Did you truly understand the issues involved or just being a copy cat????