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[短评]非法移民的天堂:美国还能撑多久?(文/视频) (图)

(2007-12-02 07:46:43) 下一个


据美国移民研究中心(CIS)最新报告统计,2000年以来7年间,有1千3百万移民涌入美国。按此速度,今后10年,预计将再有1千5百万移民来到美国,将成为美国历史上最大的移民潮。

然而,这些移民中,有5百60万是非法移民。

在美国,有3千9百万移民,占人口的12。6%,而至少有1千2百万人是非法移民。他们主要来自墨西哥和中南美洲。

大量的非法移民涌向美国,美国在进口贫困。

这种现象直接冲击着美国的公共政策,也是美国大选的主要话题之一。

民主党候选人希拉莉提出的全民保险计划,听起来很好,但跟其他民主党的一切纲领一样,好听不可行。

民主党说4千8百万的美国人没有保险。然后,据统计,34%的移民家庭,即1千3百万的移民没有保险,这里面,有8百30万没保险的是非法移民,占全国没保险人口的18%,如果算上他们在美国出生的孩子的话。

然而,美国政府对于这些没保险的非法移民是非常慷慨的。这些非法移民不纳税,大部分收入返回自己的祖国,然而他们生病去医院的账单却由美国政府买单。即使假设非法移民只用其他人所使用的保健资源的一半的话,他们每年消耗了美国纳税人300个亿。

从1989年以来,美国没保险的人口的增长中71%是移民和他们在美国出生的小孩。在民主党的全民保险计划中,这一点被忽略掉。

此外,59%的非法移民和他们的孩子是属于贫困或接近贫困线的。

在全国范围里,非法移民中有40%享有美国政府的福利。其中33%的非移民拿食品券,27%的非法移民拿医疗补助。

美国每年除了要花上百亿的钱付非法移民的福利以外,还要支付非法移民犯罪分子进监狱的一切费用。

美国虽然是移民国家,但失控的非法移民已经给美国纳税人以沉重的负担。

54%的非法移民居住在加州,德州,亚利桑那州和佛州,每年光福利这一项就花去这几个州纳税人200亿美元。

在美国能拿到福利,更吸引更多的非法移民来美国。这些人没有什么技能和文化,在美国,他们成为半永久居住,靠福利生存的贫民阶层。

对待这些非法移民怎么办?共和党有人提出加强边界管制,遣返犯罪分子,惩罚雇佣非法移民的雇主。民主党有人提出要非法移民合法化。这些都似乎不能有效地根本地解决问题。

不过可以指出,希拉莉所鼓吹的所谓全民保险计划是异想天开,自相矛盾。如果不解决非法移民的保险问题,怎么会是全民保险。要给非法移民保险,这笔钱由谁出?给他们保,是不是在鼓励非法移民?

别忘了,美国政府的钱就是你我纳税人的钱。你愿意把你的钱花在国家安全上,让人民自己来决定自己的事情, 还是花在均贫富上,来负担那些只拿不出的非法移民的福利,让政府来管理你的财产。

这是你要考虑投共和党还是民主党一票的基本点。

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noso 回复 悄悄话 看看民主党是怎么拉新移民选票的,看看新移民是为什么支持共和党的。

Republicans winning new citizens for 2008 vote
By Toby Harnden in San Diego, California
Last Updated: 12:01am GMT 10/11/2007

Minutes after taking the Pledge of Allegiance, new American citizens are urged to register as voters by Democratic activists who see them as natural party supporters who could hold the key to the 2008 election.

But with increasing illegal immigration threatening the economy and security of the United States, many legal immigrants anxious to uphold the laws of their adopted country are moving towards the more hard-line immigration stance of Republicans.

Even in California’s Democratic-controlled San Diego, sizeable numbers of America’s newly-minted potential voters said that illegal immigrants should be penalised rather than given an easy route to citizenship as most Democrats advocate.

“For a long time, immigration was OK,” said Sara Wright, 49, a seamstress from Mexico who arrived in the US legally in 1986.

“But now, no more. A lot of really bad people come from Mexico and commit crimes.

“People are coming in and having two, three, four babies and going on welfare. Some are making money here and spending it back in Mexico.

"That’s not right. They should go back to Mexico and get a permit.”

Mrs Wright, whose American-born husband Ed served in the US Navy, was one of 1,591 people from 89 countries who became citizens at a ceremony in San Diego’s Golden Hall on Tuesday.

Nearly two thirds of them were from Mexico, whose border is just 17 miles from the city.

During the 40-minute ceremony, performed by a judge, the new citizens waved American flags, sang “America the Beautiful” and raised their rights hands as they repeated the oath to “abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty” of another nation.


Follow Toby Harnden as he travels from coast to coast to weigh up the mood of US voters

Some men wore ties emblazoned with the stars and stripes while many women dressed in red, white and blue.

After the oath, some wept, others hugged one another and many turned to the public gallery and flashed broad smiles.

With the number of illegal aliens in the US estimated at anything between eight and 20 million people out of a population of around 303 million, how to deal with the problem is becoming an explosive political issue in the 2008 campaign.

President George W. Bush’s plan to provide a “path to citizenship” was rejected by Congress and branded an “amnesty” by many senior Republicans.

Hillary Clinton’s status as front runner for the White House was damaged recently when she declined to criticise a plan in New York state to give driver’s licences to illegal immigrants.

Previously, new citizens could be relied upon to vote Democratic by a ratio of up to 10 to one. But in San Diego this week there were indications that this could be changing.

“I’ve had several people here, Hispanic people, say ‘No, I’m a Republican’,” said Bill De Risa, a Democratic worker eagerly registering voters outside Golden Hall.

His colleague Mary Kennedy said that one woman had told her she wanted to be a Republican because of immigration policy.

“She felt the Democrats were too soft. She wanted higher fences. It’s a very polarising issue.”

Sarah Thomas, 42, a restaurateur originally from Salway Ash, Dorset and one of about two dozen Britons who took US citizenship, said illegal immigrants should be sent home.

“They need to leave and come back legally.

“Just because somebody has been here for 10 years illegally, not paying taxes, does that give them equal rights? No.”

John Pauls, 46, a Canadian-born doctor, said that illegal immigrants were a major burden on the taxpayers who had to foot their health bills and that insecure borders could allow terrorists to come into the US.

“Those that do come into this country illegally are telling us that they are morally and ethically not trustworthy. They should not be here. It’s insulting to those of us who are here legally.”

noso 回复 悄悄话 回复布什的老板的评论:

我这篇文章说的是“非法”移民的失控对美国公共政策的影响和民主党候选人在全民保险问题上对公众的误导。

你说的那些跟我说的没什么关系。我说过了,没用移民就没有美国。

但“非法”移民在冲击合法移民和破坏美国公共政策。33%在押犯人是非法进入美国的,没被抓住的,没被定罪的更多。

电视上每次报道对儿童性侵害和拐卖的案件几乎都同来自墨西哥和中南美洲的非法移民有关。

布什的老板 回复 悄悄话 不管哪个党执政都对所谓的移民问题都不会有根本的影响,人类整个历史就是人类迁徙的历史,只要有区域的不平衡,就会有移民,如果即使你再严格的立法,移民也会转移到了地下.历史大趋势,根本不可能以为改了移民法几个条款改变.欧洲人的白人几百年前大规模来到今天的美国的时候对这片土地产生了巨大的影响.今天,欧洲以外的移民也会对社会的意识形态产生冲击.历史总是这样反复,人类从这样的竞争中发展,这样的竞争下,土地才能找到自己真正的主人.你觉得现在的美国人可以只享受所有的好处却避免与别人竞争吗?你认为现在的政府可以抗拒历史吗?
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复布什的老板的评论:

没有移民就没有美国,这时基本的道理。

但是,失控的非法移民冲击合法移民和公共政策,则是必须面对的事实。
布什的老板 回复 悄悄话 举个很简单的例子,如果你的老板今天给你减薪,你的收入少了,你交的税也少了,你老板因为减你的薪,他的利润就高,那么他交的税也多了.这是否说他为社会的贡献就增加了,而你对社会的贡献就减少了?而你还是在创造跟你减薪前一样的价值,而你老板也没有创造更多的价值,他只是更多的占有了你创造的价值.整个过程并没有影响社会的财富,只影响了财富的分配.减薪,税收都不过是个手段,不能衡量你对社会的贡献或你老板对社会的贡献.
布什的老板 回复 悄悄话 一个人交的税多并不代表他为社会创造的价值高.你要知道税收作为政府的经济手段,主要目的是为了调节经济,促进经济的可持续发展性,其次才是财富再分配的方法.一个人对社会的贡献并不能光看他交了多少税,而是要看他为社会创造了多少价值,美国移民对社会的总体贡献绝对要超过他们对社会的索取,我们的优越生活有一部分要感谢移民创造的剩余价值.希望你用自己的脑子思考一下,不要让那些受政治利益趋使的评论代替你的思考.我是第一代移民,现在也是美国人,我只考虑是移民是否对美国人有利,在这个基础上,我欢迎移民,不管是非"法"的还是合"法"的.
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复HCC的评论:

5% of total tax payers (who make $350,000.00 a year) contribute 50% of all US income tax. 50% tax payers only contribute 3% of total us income tax.

So who is doing whom a favor?



HCC 回复 悄悄话 Wait a minute here, the illegal immigrants do pay taxes:
A portion of them do pay income tax (if their employer reports it). In fact the tax law in this country specifically prevents the immigration service from obtaining and using tax information to prosecute the illegal immigrants...so that the government can make more tax revenues.

Yes, some of them don't pay income tax...but everyone will have to pay sales tax. (Texas, for example, charges 8.25%). And, those who bought real property will also have to pay property tax. Those who opened their own business will have to pay franchise taxes too.

If these people pay taxes, surely they are entitled to receive accompanying benefits. The Democrats are advocating for what the people truly deserve (unless you would prefer to have them die on the streets). Your article above failed to take these things into consideration.
noso 回复 悄悄话

Illegal Immigration

Click here for publications on this topic

The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) estimates that in January of 2000 there were
7 million illegal aliens living in the United States, a number that is growing by half a million a year. Thus, the illegal-alien population in 2003 stands at at least 8 million. Included in this estimate are approximately 78,000 illegal aliens from countries who are of special concern in the war on terror. It is important to note that the 500,000 annual increase is the net growth in the illegal-alien population (new illegal immigration minus deaths, legalizations, and out-migration). In 1999 for example, the INS estimates that 968,000 new illegal aliens settled in the U.S. This number was offset by 210,000 illegal aliens who either died or returned home on their own, 63,000 who were removed by the INS, and 183,000 illegal aliens who were given green cards as part of the normal "legal" immigration process. One of the most important findings of the INS report is the intimate link between legal and illegal immigration. The INS estimates that it gave out 1.5 million green cards to illegal aliens in the 1990s. This was not due to amnesty legislation, but rather reflects how the legal immigration process embraces illegal immigration and encourages it through legal exemptions. According to the INS, only 412,000 illegal aliens were removed during the decade.

The Census Bureau has also developed estimates of its own. Their estimate at the time of the 2000 Census suggests that the illegal immigration population was about 8 million. Using this number, it can be concluded that the illegal-alien population grew by almost half a million a year in the 1990s. This conclusion is derived from a draft report given to the House immigration subcommittee by the INS that estimated the illegal population was 3.5 million in 1990. For the illegal population to have reached 8 million by 2000, the net increase had to be 400,000 to 500,000 per year during the 1990s.

The two "magnets" which attract illegal aliens are jobs and family connections. The typical Mexican worker earns one-tenth his American counterpart, and numerous American businesses are willing to hire cheap, compliant labor from abroad; such businesses are seldom punished because our country lacks a viable system to verify new hires' work eligibility. In addition, communities of recently arrived legal immigrants help create immigration networks used by illegal aliens and serve as incubators for illegal immigration, providing jobs, housing, and entree to America for illegal-alien relatives and fellow countrymen.

The standard response to illegal immigration has been increased border enforcement. And, in fact, such tightening of the border was long overdue. But there has been almost no attention paid to enforcement at worksites within the United States. Nor has there been any recognition that the networks created by high levels of legal immigration contribute to mass illegal immigration.

Publications:

Op-ed: Use Enforcement to Ease Situation, by Steven A. Camarota, The Arizona Republic, October 23, 2005

Testimony: "Secure Licenses Critical to Homeland Security," Testimony Prepared for the Joint Transportation Committee, Massachusetts State House, October 25, 2005. Statement of Jessica M. Vaughan, Senior Policy Analyst, Center for Immigration Studies

Testimony: "SAVE: A Useful Tool for State Agencies," Testimony Before The Joint Committee on Housing, Massachusetts State House, September 20, 2005
Statement of Jessica M.Vaughan, Senior Policy Analyst, Center for Immigration Studies

Backgrounder: Downsizing Illegal Immigration: A Strategy of Attrition Through Enforcement, by Mark Krikorian, May 2005

Op-ed: Should the United States get Tough on Illegal Workers? Yes, by Mark Krikorian, New York Daily News, December 26, 2004

Backgrounder: No Child Left Behind: New Rules for Unaccompanied Minor Illegal Aliens, by Don Barnett

Center Paper 23: The High Cost of Cheap Labor: Illegal Immigration and the Federal Budget, by Steven A. Camarota, August 2004

Op-ed: Playing Games with Security: Taking Two Steps Back for Every Step Forward on Immigration, by Mark Krikorian, National Review Online, August 18, 2004

Op-ed: Post-Americans: They've just grown beyond their country, by Mark Krikorian, National Review Online, June 22, 2004

Crime & the Illegal Alien: The Fallout from Crippled Immigration Enforcement,
by Heather Mac Donald
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, June 2004

State and Local Authority to Enforce Immigration Law: A Unified Approach for Stopping Terrorists
by Mr. Kris W. Kobach
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, June 2004

Congressional Testimony: "Pushing the Border Out on Alien Smuggling: New Tools and Intelligence Initiatives," Testimony before House Judiciary Committee, Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Claims, May 18, 2004
Statement of Michael W. Cutler, Fellow, Center for Immigration Studies

Congressional Testimony: "What's Wrong With the Visa Lottery?" Testimony before the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on the Judiciary, Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Claims, April 29, 2004
Statement of Steven Camarota, Director of Research, Center for Immigration Studies

Op-ed: Don't Give Noncitizens the Vote: Recent proposals to relax election requirements would ill serve the national interest, by Mark Krikorian, Newsday, April 26, 2004

Op-ed: Safety Through Immigration Control, by Mark Krikorian, The Providence Journal,
April 24, 2004

Op-ed: Viewpoints: Should borders be open? by Mark Krikorian, BBC News, UK Edition,
April 1, 2004

Congressional Testimony: Flawed Assumptions Underlying Guestworker Programs; Testimony before the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on the Judiciary, Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Claims, March 24, 2004,
Statement of Mark Krikorian, Executive Director, Center for Immigration Studies

Congressional Testimony: Funding for Immigration in the President’s 2005 Budget; Testimony before House Judiciary Committee, Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Claims, March 11, 2004, Statement of Michael W. Cutler, Fellow, Center for Immigration Studies

Op-ed: Not Amnesty but Attrition: The Way to go on Immigration, by Mark Krikorian, National Review, March 22, 2004

Panel Discussion: INS, RIP: One Year Later, The National Press Club, March 3, 2004

Congressional Testimony: America’s New Welcome Mat: A Look at the Goals and Challenges
of the US-VISIT Program; Testimony before the the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Government Reform, March 4, 2004
Statement of Jessica M. Vaughan, Senior Policy Analyst, Center for Immigration Studies

Testimony: The Proposed Issuance of Maryland State Driver's Licenses to Illegal Aliens, Testimony before the Maryland House of Delegates, Judiciary Committee, February 18, 2004
Statement of Michael Cutler, Fellow, Center for Immigration Studies

Flawed Assumptions Underlying Guestworker Programs
by Mark Krikorian
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, February 2004

Op-ed: Bush Bill Would Aid Mexico's Meddling in U.S., by Mark Krikorian, Newsday,
February 18, 2004

Congressional Testimony: Guestworker Programs for Low-Skilled Workers: Lessons from the Past and Warnings for the Future. Testimony before the Subcommittee on Immigration and Border Security of the Judiciary Committee of the U.S. Senate, February 5, 2004
Statement of Vernon M. Briggs, Jr., Board Member, Center for Immigration Studies

Congressional Testimony: Preventing the Entry of Terrorists into the United States,
Testimony before the U.S. House of Representatives, Committee on International Relations,
Sub-committee on International Terrorism, Nonproliferation and Human Rights, February 13, 2004
Statement of Jessica M. Vaughan, Senior Policy Analyst, Center for Immigration Studies
Statement of Peter K. Nunez, Board of Directors Chairman, Center for Immigration Studies

Op-ed: Earth to WSJ: Clueless on immigration. by Mark Krikorian, National Review Online, January 28, 2004

Op-ed: Enforcement Blues: Do we want an immigration agency that works, or not?
by Mark Krikorian, National Review Online, January 26, 2004

Op-ed: Amnesty, Again: This country should have learned -- apparently, it has not,
by Mark Krikorian, National Review, January 26, 2004

Op-ed: Bush Plan for Illegals Out of Touch with Reality, by Mark Krikorian, January 17, 2004

Promise Unfulfilled: Why Didn’t Collective Bargaining Transform California’s Farm Labor Market?
by Philip L. Martin
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, January 2004
.pdf version

Op-ed: Jobs Americans Won't Do: Voodoo Economics from the White House, by Mark Krikorian
National Review Online, January 7, 2004

Falling Behind on Security: Implementation of the Enhanced Border Security and Visa Entry Reform Act of 2002
by Rosemary Jenks and Steven A. Camarota
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, December 2003
.pdf version

Politics by Other Means: The “Why” of Immigration to the United States
by Fredo Arias-King
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, December 2003
.pdf version

Op-ed: Arizona Amnesty: Rewarding Illegal Aliens, by Mark Krikorian, National Review Online, November 21, 2003

Fewer Immigrants, a Warmer Welcome: Fixing a Broken Immigration Policy
by Mark Krikorian
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, November 2003
.pdf version

Remaking the Political Landscape: The Impact of Illegal and Legal Immigration on Congressional Apportionment
by Dudley L. Poston, Jr., Steven A. Camarota, and Amanda K. Baumle
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, October 2003

Op-ed: Freeloaders, by Mark Krikorian, National Review Online, October 3, 2003

Panel Discussion: Can Immigration Law Be Enforced? A Year after 9/11, Many Still Answer 'No', September 2003

RICO: A New Tool for Immigration Law Enforcement
by Micah King
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, July 2003

Bar None: An Evaluation of the 3/10-Year Bar
by Jessica Vaughan
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, July 2003

Tran: The Role of State and Local Law Enforcement in Immigration, Rayburn House Office Building, June 26, 2003

Congressional Testimony: The Deadly Consequences of Illegal Alien Smuggling, by Peter Nunez, House Committee on the Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Claims, June 26, 2003

Congressional Testimony: The Issuance, Acceptance and Reliability Of Consular Identification Cards, by Marti Dinerstein, House Committee on the Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Claims, June 19, 2003

Tran: Mexico's Illegal Alien ID Card: Should it be Valid in the United States?
The Nixon Center, June 12, 2003

North American Borders: Why They Matter
by Glynn Custred
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, May 2003

Op-ed: Oil for Illegals? Mexico, and the Democrats, have a fit over House vote,
by Mark Krikorian, National Review Online, May 14, 2003

Officers Need Backup: The Role of State and Local Police in Immigration Law Enforcement
by James R. Edwards, Jr.
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, April 2003

Securing the Homeland Through Immigration Law Enforcement
Congressional testimony by Mark Krikorian
U.S. House of Representatives, Committee on the Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration,
Border Security, and Claims, April 10, 2003

NRO Debates: Dealing with illegal immigrants should be a top priority of the war on terror, Part II, Part III
by Mark Krikorian and Tamar Jacoby
National Review Online, February 12-14, 2003

Announcement: 800,000 + Illegals Entering Annually in Late '90s: New INS Report Also Finds 80,000 from Middle East, by Steven A. Camarota, February 4, 2003

IDs for Illegals: The 'Matricula Consular' Advances Mexico's Immigration Agenda
by Marti Dinerstein
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, January 2003

Op-ed: Targeting Tancredo: Further proof we're not serious about border control,
by Mark Krikorian, National Review Online, September 20, 2002

America's Identity Crisis: Document Fraud is Pervasive and Pernicious
by Marti Dinerstein
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, April 2002

Enchilada Lite: A Post-9/11 Mexican Migration Agreement
by Robert S. Leiken
Center for Immigration Studies report, March 2002

Another 50 Years of Mass Mexican Immigration: Mexican Government Report Projects Continued Flow Regardless of Economics or Birth Rates
by David Simcox
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, March 2002

Op-ed: Making our de facto national ID cards work, by David Simcox, United Press International, February 26, 2002

Announcement: Census Bureau: Over 100,000 Illegal Aliens from the Middle East: New Government Report Raises Concerns in Light of Terrorist Threat, January 22, 2002

Announcement: Census Bureau: Eight Million Illegal Aliens in 2000: Finding Raises Concern Over Border Control in Light of Terrorist Threat, October 24, 2001

Op-ed: Amnesty, in English: The Debate Over Amnesty Ought To Be Waged in Plain English,
by Mark Krikorian, National Review Online, September 4, 2001

Op-ed: Tired and Poor: The Bankrupt Arguments for Mass, Unskilled Immigration,
by Steven A. Camarota, National Review, September 3, 2001

Attitudes Toward Amnesty: Zogby Poll Examines Support Among Different Constituencies
by Steven A. Camarota
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, September 2001
.pdf version

Op-ed: Defining Deviancy Down in Immigration, by Mark Krikorian, National Review Online, May 3, 2001

An Examination of U.S. Immigration Policy and Serious Crime
by Carl F. Horowitz
Center for Immigration Studies Report, May 2001

Controlling Illegal Immigration: There Are Ways, But Little Will
by Mark Krikorian
Investor's Business Daily, March 21, 2001

New INS Report: 1986 Amnesty Increased Illegal Immigration: The Center's 2000 analysis of new INS estimates demonstrate that 1986 amnesty increased illegal immigration

Op-ed: Amnesties Beget More Illegal Immigration: Will somebody tell Congress?
by Mark Krikorian, National Review Online, October 16, 2000

America's Other Border Patrol: The State Department’s Consular Corps and
Its Role in U.S. Immigration
by Nikolai Wenzel
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, August 2000
News coverage

Inalienable Identification: Key to Halting Illegal Employment
by David Simcox
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, January 2000

Op-ed: Lured by jobs, illegal immigrants risk death at border crossings, by Mark Krikorian,
Santa Barbara News-Press, April 25, 1999

"No Sanctions: Governments Haven't Fulfilled Promises to Punish Rogue Employers"
by Daniel Jester
pp. 8-10 in Immigration Review no. 33, Fall 1998

"Missing the Boat"
Review by Sanjay Mongia of Forbidden Workers: Illegal Chinese Immigrants and American Labor by Peter Kwong
pp. 13-15 in Immigration Review No. 31, Spring 1998

Op-ed: A Loophole in Immigration Law, by Steven A. Camarota and Jessica Vaughan,
The Washington Post, October 21, 1997

Congressional Testimony: Identification Document Fraud, by Rosemary Jenks before the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on the Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security, and Claims, May 13, 1997

Measuring the Fallout: The Cost of the IRCA Amnesty After 10 Years
by David Simcox
Center for Immigration Studies Backgrounder, May 1997

"5 Million Illegal Immigrants: An Analysis of New INS Numbers"
by Steven Camarota
pp. 1-4 in Immigration Review no. 28, Spring 1997

Op-ed: What Crackdown?, by Mark Krikorian, The New York Times, April 4, 1997

Op-ed: The link: legal and illegal immigration, by Mark Krikorian, New York Post, February 16, 1997

Op-ed: Illegal Workers Aren't Needed to Make Sure We Keep Eating Our Vegetables,
by Mark Krikorian, Chicago Tribune, April 9, 1996


Other Links:

Estimates of the Unauthorized Immigrant Population Residing in the United States:
1990 to 2000 Executive Summary
Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), January 2003

U.S. Immigration Policy: Restoring Credibility
A 1994 report from the U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform

The Mexico-U.S. Binational Migration Study
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复jiang9xiong的评论:

美国33%被关押的犯人是非法移民。美国纳税人每天要付$330万给他们,WHY?!
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复可选项123的评论:

你的这些言论基本上都是臆造的,没用根据的。而我写的全都有出处。

有空能看懂就看看这篇文章:

http://www.cis.org/articles/2007/back1007.html
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复aguang的评论:

所有回贴,只有你的有真知灼见。谢谢。
可选项123 回复 悄悄话 这个贴子里的数字都来自哪里? 给个出处. 论据不足立论粗糟. 一千三百万非法移民是估计的总数. 并非都是2000年以后来的. 非法移民通过什么途径能够享受美国的福利? 哪些福利? 我看到的拿食品劵购物的都是白人. 另外非法移民问题共和党有什么高招? 咱倒是见识了极右的共和党怎样在短短的七年里把个美国弄到今天这个田地. nusub9的话糙理不糙, watchman说的也是大实话. 顶你们!
aguang 回复 悄悄话 回复nusub9的评论:
有话好好说,说人话!
jiang9xiong 回复 悄悄话 我做餐馆工17年,中餐,日餐,西餐店都做过,没有一家不用非法移民的,而且是非常多。如果美国赶走所有的非法移民,我看80%的餐厅要关门。到时候你吃一顿麦当劳恐怕要100美金了。我们的房子是老墨盖的,如果请美国人盖那我就买不起了。
iamcaibird 回复 悄悄话 虚伪,十足的虚伪。美国经济从所谓的非法移民身上得到了巨大的利益,反过来却倒打一耙。需要劳动力的时候,就贩卖黑奴,引诱华人来挖金;当工作完成了,就把华人赶走。移民法就是一个强盗逻辑。

当然了,我们不能责怪有人要维护自己的既得利益。不过把自己的自私打扮成高尚,就令人作呕了。
云耳 回复 悄悄话 回复布什的老板的评论: 说的好!
noso 回复 悄悄话 请问楼下几位:

1。是不是来自墨西哥吃美国救济的老墨非法移民?
2。纳不纳美国的个人所得税?
3。有没有选举权?

如果其中有一条不适用您的话,就别跟这儿废话了。这篇文章跟您没关系。
布什的老板 回复 悄悄话 你说非法移民不交税,大家都通过他们的廉价劳动力得到的好处怎么不说? 你以为没有非法移民,你的食品价格还会是现在的价格? 汇款回国的指责更是毫无经济学的基本知识,美元不管怎么流动,最终还是要来美国买东西的.事实上,移民根本就没有非法的,你凭什么说那块地就是你的,移民法本身就是个反人类的东西.
靠都是傻X 回复 悄悄话 kao nimen , sb men ,JB ,为何不给正经高学历的留学生们更多移民机会,靠,就只是弄个H1B就跟要抛他们祖坟似的,傻X,非法低素质移民一堆堆,MB,这样的国家不衰落,上帝都不知道怎么修改圣经了!给高素质人更多移民机会,减少低素质劳力移民配额,可以给他们工签,干几年回去,在这也是活受罪,不如赚点就回,大家皆大欢喜,我CAO,都傻X啊,这都想不到怎么解决,让我当美国总统,PLEASE!
红地瓜 回复 悄悄话 终于明白了香港人,台湾人的心态,以及城市户口与民工的意义.

人类的悲剧在于守住自己当前一点小利益就忘记了历史.

做个有良知的人吧!

无良高级知识分子阶层跟劣势群体的差距真有这么大? 多读几天书,得了运气,不知道自己是谁了.
ma012 回复 悄悄话 没什么太大差别吧。交出去的税反正拿不回来了,返也返不了多少,就给政府糟蹋吧。共和党化到打仗上,民主党花到老墨身上,我们只能生生闷气了。
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