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我其实挺喜欢看李安的电影的。我认为现在的张艺谋和陈凯歌加起来也不敌一个李安。
《色戒》上演后，网上评论不断。我本来不想说什么的，因为看了后好象没什么感觉。
是我开始变老了么？绝对不可能！
那怎么看媒体沸沸扬扬的三场激情戏会没任何反应？
是不是自己的阶级觉悟降低了。这不，又把最近的李安，汤唯和梁朝伟的访谈再读一遍，还是找不到他们说的感觉。
中午去吃饭，来到了一家中餐馆。 店老板说，我刚进的龙虾，要不要尝尝？我说，龙虾有什么好吃的。他说，吃贵妃蚌吧。我想想，也没什么胃口。点了个阳春面，再加一盘拌黄瓜，嗯，吃得挺舒服的。
回办公室的路上，突然想到，不是自己的问题。我觉得李安怎么就象这店老板一样，自己认为好的也是别人最要的，不要就是不够档次。
李安说，这部电影是给中国人看的。又加了一句，要是没被统治压迫过，也很难看懂。汤唯说，这部电影是华语电影的大突破，新方向，是用艺术的肢体语言来表现的电影。梁朝伟说，我有突破，很喜欢。全剧组说，拍完后，我们都哭了。
得了吧，各位！
要按你们说的《色戒》是部艺术价值这么很高的电影，去看的观众得有什么样的艺术修养才能理解你们的天赋啊？
去看这部电影的老中，怀着我就一土老帽儿的心情，就想看看你李安凭什么说俺们是土老帽儿，可能看不懂。
看完以后，发现自己没那么惨，您李导就一瞎白话。
整个电影，就看着陈冲的麻将打来打去，梁朝伟走来走去，汤唯说来说去，然后俩人搞来搞去。
人物形象塑造的十分单薄，表演相当生硬，情节变化没什么铺垫，电影演完了，观众说，That's it? 。
李安就靠那三场激情戏来卖这部电影？以为看这电影的都没见过那阵势吧？
错了，全见过，没准儿还全练过。
那这电影除了这还有什么值钱的东西吗？ 我看没有。除了几个演员和导演自己拼命说好感动以外，好象真还没什么人说有什么好的。
现在的人民觉悟高了，不稀罕那些花里胡哨的东西。您要打动不了我，我还真不买你的帐。全美票房才50万，您寒碜人那吧。
李导，您千万别说您那才叫艺术，一般人不懂。
我们不傻，是您自己糊涂了吧，走错方向了吧？
这部电影是您拍的最差的一部。不知您事后痛哭什么，人都是感情动物。能让您痛哭流涕的，别人也会感动。为什么观众会无所谓？
这部电影是您拍的最差的一部。不知您事后痛哭什么，人都是感情动物。能让您痛哭流涕的，别人也会感动。为什么观众会无所谓？
YOU DIDN'T DELIVER WHAT'S IN YOUR HEAD!
李安,您明白了吗？
李安,您明白了吗？
我一直都不觉得李安是一个伟大的导演，他不过是取了在两种主流文化中游走自如的巧。
他的电影的确细腻，看一部还可以，多了我老觉得有点小气。
多么希望中国的导演能拍一部辛德勒的名单或者钢琴师那样的电影啊。
《色,戒》被选为美国年度十大耻辱电影(组图) 中国新闻网
李安执导的《色，戒》中的情欲场面一直备受争议，最近更遭美国女影评人协会选为年度十大耻辱电影，女主角汤唯被狠批与梁朝伟的情欲戏等于爱上一名强奸者，有辱女性尊严。
据香港媒体报道，由梁朝伟、汤唯主演，李安执导的《色，戒》继被美国报章《USAToday》选为07年度最令人失望电影后，最近又被美国女性影评人协会(TheWomen Film CriticsCircle，简称WFCC)评为07年度十大耻辱影片。
该协会由美国40位女影评人和学者组成，成立只有三年，锐意令大众尊重及关注女性地位。协会日前宣布07年度十大耻辱影片(WFCCTopTen HallofShame)，评审准则都是这些影片有没有违反女性主义，《色，戒》榜上有名，梁朝伟和汤唯被指犹如亚当与夏娃在旧上海，汤唯演绎的王佳芝更被评是爱上一名施虐者/强奸者。
But I feel Liang chao wei performed better than Tang wei. Tang wei looks like the heroie in "Yang ban Xi" in culture revolution.
Both you and li ann is right about something. Feeling is kind thing from you own heart, like every time you read a good article you can get a different perspective. So You can say, you didn't get it. Li ann can say, people who don't have the background won't understand his film. Am I right?
对于这部，我和易中天的观点一致，不谋而合，正所谓英雄所见略同。
细细体会这部烂片子的都是小资产阶级的意思形态在作怪，看不到大的方面。
当然，有人可以说，我算老几，易中天是谁这种陈词烂调。那就没什么讨论的意思了。
易中天:《色，戒》床戏拍得失败 内地版无需删去
文章来源: 华龙网 于 2007-12-15 00:36:45
《色,戒》的床戏拍失败了
记者：在你昨天的演讲中提到了《色,戒》的台词,你平时很喜欢看电影是吧？
易中天：我看电影非常少,但《色,戒》我看了,还是看的完全版。我认为（内地版）没有必要删掉镜头,李安拍这个床戏,算是拍失败了。（床戏）做到了为情节服务,在为主题服务上还是有问题,没有把他的意思拍出来。
记者：你觉得《色,戒》这部电影成不成功？
易中天：对电影应该有不同标准的评价。艺术分制作和创作,产品和作品是完全不同的,我们现在弄不清中国电影是产品,还是作品？这个问题说不清楚,很难去评价一部电影的成败。
记者：你怎么看现在的中国电影？
易中天：对于中国电影来说,先得走向市场,只要坚守住道德底线,不（要）到为了票房到贩毒卖淫的程度。但一旦赚了钱,就要对艺术负责。
记者：那你认为张艺谋已经突破了道德底线了吗？
易中天：（点点头）
记者：你说很少看电影,为什么还去看了《色,戒》,是专门去香港看的吗？
易中天：顺路看的,刚好是亚洲周刊２０周年,不是专门去的,我也舍不得两张机票钱。
请看我的博客http://lydbk.blog.sohu.com
你对这个电影这种感觉，可能需要看看自己的问题了
观众看《色戒》四次笑场 删减不当理解困难 北京晨报
昨天起，李安的《色，戒》在各大影院全面上映，记者在采访时发现，《色，戒》全片出现4次较大规模笑场，更有不少观众对王佳芝在最后关头放过易先生的举动表示不解。
4次笑场
记者和观众一同观影时发现，这部片长约150分钟的剧情片共引发了4次较大规模的笑场，其中有李安故意设置的“笑点”，也有观众对于剧情的不同理解。
笑场1 王力宏(听歌)喊口号
以邝裕民(王力宏饰)为首的6名岭南大学爱国学生在香港演出抗日救亡的话剧。王佳芝扮演的农家女对邝裕民扮演的战士下跪，感谢他在战场上杀敌，表情很夸张。最后两人大喊：“中国不能亡！”台下观众愣了几秒之后，也跟着喊出这句话。片中人物热血沸腾，影院里观众却爆发出了笑声。观众沈小姐在映后告诉记者，她之所以笑是因为没想到这样大喊口号的场景也会出现在李安的片子里。“在历史题材的主旋律电影中倒是经常看到，但在《色，戒》里出现让我觉得特别不真实。”
笑场2 刺杀是暑假打工？
邝裕民等人的“刺杀计划”收效甚微。郁闷之余，六人在海滩练习射酒瓶。争执之间，一位同学漫不经心地脱口而出：“再不动手学校就要开学了。”让已经入戏的观众突然意识到，他们原来只是一群学生，这个沉重而残酷的“刺杀计划”其实就是他们的另一种暑期打工而已。让观众不禁开怀一笑。
笑场3 易先生被感动？
易先生约王佳芝在日本人的餐厅吃饭，王佳芝为他唱起了《天涯歌女》，冷血的易先生居然被感动得流泪。观众的笑声又一次在影院响起。“我觉得太突兀了！那么一个冷血的人，居然会被一首歌感动得流泪，我觉得很好笑。”观众王先生说。
笑场4 易先生变“飞人”
听到王佳芝那句“走吧”，几秒钟的时间里，易先生从脸上挂着微笑，变作了然的惊骇，然后拔腿就跑。冲出珠宝店大门，易先生大喊一声“车门”，随后身体就像箭一样“射”进打开的车门内，速度堪比刘翔。这样戏剧化的场面引爆了全场最后一次大规模笑声。此处，是剧情的发展，非常贴合角色的个性，意料之外情理之中。
1个疑惑
电影放映结束后，“王佳芝最后为什么要放过易先生？”是观众相互问得最多的一个问题，这也成了《色，戒》的一个终极疑惑。观众张小姐表示：“当时他们的人都已经在珠宝店附近埋伏好了，王佳芝进门前也已经用余光扫到了她的同伴。而易先生只带了一个司机，这是干掉他的最好机会了，基本上可以说是万无一失，我就不明白为什么她会在最后关头反悔，抛弃同伴、抛弃爱国的理想、甚至抛弃自己的生命？”张小姐还开玩笑地说：“难道就是因为一颗鸽子蛋大的钻石？那么我们女同胞就应该从《色，戒》中学到一个道理，不要乱收别人送的钻石，否则会付出很高代价的。”李先生也觉得这样的结尾有些牵强。“我知道当然是因为王佳芝最后爱上了易先生，才放他一马，你看她后来在人力车上的表情是多么神采飞扬。但是因为之前没有足够的铺垫，王佳芝就像是被一颗石头感动了一样，让人难以信服。我相信李安不会犯这样的低级错误，或许铺垫就在被删掉的情节里。”
记者也采访了曾在香港看过全本《色，戒》的严先生，他认为王佳芝最后的举动完全合情合理。“我一点没感觉到突兀，反而觉得要是她不那么做才不正常呢。其实这是一个由性而爱的过程，性被删掉了，爱自然就会让人觉得牵强。”
晨报记者 杨莲洁
: ) I can understand why and how you feel about that.
我对这部电影没有兴趣，只是网络媒体的评论引起了我的兴趣，我在想，是张爱玲什么样的一部小说吸引了李大导的注意力，而且他还尝试了一种格外大胆的风格？
我没有怎么看过她的小说。但是，因为这部电影，我从网络上搜索到了这篇小说的原著。仔细看了两遍，终于明白了为什么她的小说能跨越半个多世纪依然风靡的原因。她对情有着至真至纯的追求，她有着洞察世事的一对雪亮的慧眼。
这篇小说的几句话，让我开始喜欢她的文字了
权势是一种春药。（我想出了一句，金钱是一种伟哥。）
又有这句谚语：“到男人心里去的路通过胃。”是说男人好吃，碰上会做菜款待他们的女人，容易上钩。于是就有人说：“到女人心里的路通过阴道。”据说是民国初年精通英文的那位名学者说的，名字她叫不出，就晓得他替中国人多妻辩护的那句名言：“只有一只茶壶几只茶杯，哪有一只茶壶一只茶杯的？”（过去，得到一个女人的身体也就是得到了一个女人的心。可是现在呢？）
他对战局并不乐观。知道他将来怎样？得一知己，死而无憾。他觉得她的影子会永远依傍他，安慰他。虽然她恨他，她最后对他的感情强烈到是什么感情都不相干了，只是有感情。他们是原始的猎人与猎物的关系，虎与伥的关系，最终极的占有。她这才生是他的人，死是他的鬼。（ 我不知道，女子的痴情，爱情，换来的这样的结局值不值， 不过现在的女子都不傻了）。
我对这小说的背景等都不作评论，只是从女主角的心路历程来看，如果换作是我，也许，在当时那样的场景下，我也许也会那样做，没有女人愿意一个深爱自己的男人死在自己的手上。。。 男的提出买个钻戒给她做纪念，当他们在灯光下挑选戒指，男的微笑看着她，并且爽快打下十一个金条买下一颗有价无市的钻石戒指，女的看到男人的目光，轰然倒塌，失去了防线，泄密让男的逃跑造成刺杀流产，后来男的把女的一伙人当晚全部都杀了，除了一个逃跑。
终于明白，钻戒这个精致的东西，一定得是男人买给女人的，戒指是一个神圣的信物！
我也是报着很大的期待去看这部电影的。我去的是学术电影小剧场，观众不少都是学电影的学生。放映过程中居然有阵阵的笑声。一个学生说，An Lee is going down.
By MANOHLA DARGIS
Published: September 28, 2007
NEW YORK TIME
“Lust, Caution” — a truer title would be “Caution: Lust” — is a sleepy, musty period drama about wartime maneuvers and bedroom calisthenics, and the misguided use of a solid director. Based on a short story about Japanese-occupied Shanghai and Hong Kong, it was directed by Ang Lee, the Taiwanese-born, Hollywood-cultivated filmmaker who brought “Brokeback Mountain” to the screen. In that earlier romance, the love between two male sheepherders can scarcely speak its name, much less easily drop its jeans; by contrast, there’s little left to the imagination in “Lust, Caution,” other than the inspiration for Mr. Lee’s newfound flirtation with kink.
And flirtation is the word, despite the shoving and hitting, a few harsh lashes and geometric configurations that put me in mind of high school geometry more than it did the Kama Sutra. The Motion Picture Association of America, that tireless, cheerless band of Comstocks who regulate all things sexual and few things violent on behalf of the major studios, has saddled the film with an NC-17 rating — no one 17 and under admitted, even with an adult — because of “some explicit sexuality.” The horrors of female nudity (unshaven armpits!) and the vigorous pantomime of coitus apparently offended the sensibilities of the M.P.A.A., which routinely bestows R ratings to movies in which characters are tortured to death for kicks.
Me, I blushed at the grimly determined image of the Hong Kong actor Tony Leung Chiu-Wai, the great, grave, soulful heart of Wong Kar-wai films like “In the Mood for Love” and “2046,” bunching up the sheets as this new film’s resident villain and cad. As Mr. Yee, a Chinese official getting his hands bloody working for the Japanese occupiers, the actor slinks around the shadows like a specter of evil. (A fine Joan Chen flexes her red claws as his wife.) Yee is meant to be a bad, bad man, but mostly he comes across as a sad, sad man with flexible limbs and a taste for rough. He knocks rather than sweeps women off their feet, and his latest playmate, Mrs. Mak (Tang Wei), likes it that way.
Or maybe not. One of the film’s anemic conceits is that this playmate is really a drama club member, named Wong, swept up in a preposterous conspiracy against Yee. See, she’s playing a role. But her imitation of life has its limits, perhaps because the filmmakers have tried to squeeze an epic out of an exceedingly slender short story. However evocative, the transformation of this virginal creature — who looks most plausible (and all of 15) in long braids and no visible makeup — into a lethally minded femme fatale, a Mata Hari in a cheongsam, fails to convince. And it fails to convince at a ludicrous 158 minutes. (Mr. Lee’s adaptation of the Jane Austen novel “Sense and Sensibility” clocks in at a smooth 135.)
Like too many films that try to put a human face on history without really engaging with it, “Lust, Caution” feels at once overpadded and underdeveloped: it’s all production design and not enough content. The screenwriters James Schamus and Wang Hui Ling, who last collaborated on Mr. Lee’s lavish martial arts entertainment “Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon,” have puffed up and sexed up Eileen Chang’s original story without adding any psychological depth or sociopolitical heft. (Oddly, the story line echoes Paul Verhoeven’s equally absurd, if livelier and more lurid, World War II-era romp, “Black Book.”) That’s particularly hard on Tang Wei, whose pretty bow mouth and gentle, hothouse manner feel terribly ill suited to a role that calls for cunning, for the emotional violence of sacrifice, betrayal, fanaticism, lust.
Her seasoned co-star fares better, even if he’s playing more of a conceit than a character. A poet of hurt, Mr. Leung suggests worlds of pain with his melancholic eyes — few actors convey desire as beautifully or with such reserve. (Unlike Jake Gyllenhaal, another performer whose dreamy gaze pulls you in as if into deep waters, you never catch Mr. Leung working his eyes, widening them for easy emotional effect.) In his best films, including “In the Mood for Love,” Mr. Leung doesn’t do much talking: he looks, he conquers. This makes him seem like a perfect match for Mr. Lee, who has a way of giving lyrical expression to mute desire. He can turn a sigh into a declaration of love, but he can’t turn minor soft-core shocks into poetry.
“Lust, Caution” has been rated NC-17 (No one 17 and under admitted). Think pay-cable soft-core pornography, not the video-store back room.
Reviewed By: Cynthia Fuchs ZT
The primary question in Ang Lee's LUST, CAUTION is: "What is real?" The answers are complex -- both nebulous and harsh -- and they emerge very slowly, since the action takes place over several years, and the film itself runs nearly three hours.
Suffused with cigarette smoke and punctuated by clacking mahjong tiles, this lush melodrama is set during World War II, mostly in Japanese-occupied Shanghai (with brief respites in still-British Hong Kong). At its center is an espionage plot, but that's mostly a scaffolding for the remarkable, intricate relationship between Mr. Yee (Tony Leung) -- a Japanese collaborator and the brutal head of Shanghai's secret police -- and Wang (Tang Wei), a young Chinese patriot posing as a wealthy businessman's wife in order to set up Yee's assassination. Her group is so dedicated to this cause that even when their scheme is thwarted because Yee and his wife (Joan Chen) leave Shanghai, they pick it up again three years later.
This dedication is, the movie proposes, partly a function of self-delusion. Not only do Wang's compatriots believe in the absolute good of their self-appointed mission, but they also believe in the absolute evil of their prey. As Wang crosses emotional and moral borders during her performance, she comes to see the problems with making such black-and-white distinctions.
It's not that Yee can be forgiven for his violence -- his men arrest and execute resistance workers daily -- but that her own work is fraught with ethical grey areas. Her deceptions make her feel like a prostitute, a role that her mentor, Kuang (Wang Lee-Hom), can't quite understand. He does, however, come to feel a mix of guilt and jealousy as he begins to fall in love with her -- though he never tells her (which is also form of deception, born of his dedication to the cause).
Lust, Caution has garnered attention for its explicit sex scenes, and several aren't just graphic but also violent, illustrating Yee's cruelty and confusion (he's desperate to feel powerful) as well as Wang's desperate need to feel intimate with him, even at the cost of her well-being.
But these scenes also serve a thematic purpose, raising questions about what's "real" in sex performed for films that aren't designated "pornography." At the same time, the sex scenes provide moments of sincere connection for Wang and Yee: The characters see each another as "real" when they engage in sweaty, acrobatic acts, taking emotional risks they don't take at any other time. Vulnerable and aggressive, their closeness in these moments is unsafe -- but also, for them, the safest they feel.
When Wang at last articulates her pain for Kuang and their resistance cell leader, Old Wu (Chung Hua Tou), the scene is startling because of her frankness, as well as the men's abandonment of her. Unlike Yee, who forces his way into her heart, they feel flummoxed by her deion of sex and violent fantasies (she imagines shooting Yee herself) and tell her she must continue with the work that is so plainly upsetting her. While the thematic point seems obvious -- that patriotism needs prostitutes -- Wang's anguish and sudden understanding provide this sometimes lugubrious thriller's most chilling moment.
Fans might also want to see Lee's Brokeback Mountain, or a couple of great films starring Leung -- Infernal Affairs and In the Mood for Love. You might also check out the thematically similar (though more hectic) film Black Book.
In Ang Lee's Lust, Caution, a painfully high-toned erotic drama set in Japanese-occupied Shanghai during World War II, Tony Leung, as a poshly repressed Chinese government minister, and Tang Wei, as a willowy student resistance fighter who seduces him as part of an assassination plot, spend a fair amount of time with their clothes off. (At least, they do once you've sat through an eternity of muffled espionage noodling.) It's fair to say that most of what they do in their nakedness is easy on the eyes. The first time the two go at it, Leung, a veteran Hong Kong matinee idol who can look about as severe as Dracula, pulls off his belt and administers a beating to get her in the mood. Tang, a flashing-eyed newcomer wearing complicated hair and a conspiratorial bud of a smile, responds with gasps of pleasure. There are ripples of coercion and torment throughout their lovemaking — an ecstasy just this side of agony. Torsos glisten, limbs intertwine as if they belonged to double-jointed acrobats, and at one point there's a shot of intercourse that, unless Lee is using some effects that George Lucas never thought of concocting, makes it look a lot like the two actors are truly doing it.
The real kink, however, is in the situation. Tang's Wong Chia Chi is a student spy, part of a group of young radicals who want to bring down Leung's high-level collaborator, but she is also turned on by his power, his domineering fascist-aristocratic entitlement — everything she claims to despise about him politically. She loves him, in part, because she hates him. As for Leung's Mr. Yee, he has never tapped a desire this dark. For years, directors have dreamed of making a serious erotic drama with lyrically raunchy, even hardcore sex scenes. In films like 9 Songs and the nifty Shortbus, the dream has recently come true — and audiences have yawned. Lust, Caution is the latest NC-17 hothouse, and as long as the two actors are writhing, locked in a grip of sadomasochistic romance, the movie has an avid sensual glow.
The rest of the time (and that's a lot of time — it's 2 hours and 38 minutes long), Lust, Caution is like a '40s Hollywood thriller made sedate and gorgeous and aesthetic and remote. Ang Lee, as he proved in Brokeback Mountain, can be a master at teasing out the emotion roiling under the surface of things, but Lust, Caution has more surface than emotion. Based on the Eileen Chang short story, the movie would have been better staged as fast, tawdry, voluptuous pulp, which is really all it is.
Lee makes the assassination plot maddeningly repetitious. There's nothing too interesting about this student group — its leader, played by Asian pop star Wang Leehom, is a humorless fanatic — and the fact that Wong's sympathies get tangled as they do is a complication Lee takes far too long to get to. At a restaurant, or a tailor's shop, Leung and Tang work to make their tango of repression vivid, but the scenes are so static and freighted it's as if Lee were fetishizing their reserve. Lust, Caution wants us to feel the erotic ping of buttoned-up people ripping open those buttons, but too often it's the film's drama that's under wraps. C+
Posted Sep 26, 2007
关于票房:
如果认真关心的话, 您会注意到, 此片上映的前两周,全美只有纽约林肯中心艺术影院一家放映,所以最初票房总值不高.
后来洛山机才开始放映, 陆续有更多影院放, 但也只是在那些偏重艺术类电影的影院, 影院数不到一般新片的10%.
对一家影院而言, 前两周50万票房已是出类拔萃了. 听说晚上的场次都是满座的. 提前一小时就卖光了. 俺自己是提前下班去看的, 场内有90%的上座率. 正面评价很多. 当然也有很不欣赏的. :-)
I have deleted your original post because:
1. I have every right to do so.
2. You have used insulting language at your original post.
You have corrected me nothing because you simply did not get my point.
You can like the movie, and I have no problem with that. I am here to address the issue that Li An is heading towards the wrong direction by telling people they might not be able to understand this movie yet the matter of fact is, he didn't deliver what's in his head.
BTY, I always have been a fan of Li An, but I don't like this movie.
If you don't like what I said, then you can leave.
This is my blog, I am only interested in reading those insightful comments from intelligent people.
1．除了几个演员和导演自己拼命说好感动以外，好象真还没什么人说有什么好的。
《色戒》早已获得金狮奖，对影片持肯定态度的影评到处都是，在文学城就可以看到很多，也有很多跟贴，这些都是有目共睹。
2．全美票房才50万，您寒碜人那吧。
截至前天美国票房已达到$2,284,572. 香港和台湾的票房更是气势如虹，破了几项纪录。这些也都是有目共睹。
你不喜欢影片没什么不对，但言论要基于事实。
Good for you then ~~ : )
夏虫不可言冰。ZT, Period, ZT
Period.
"三场激情戏一是这部电影的卖点..." ----这是媒体讲的。媒体只盯着床戏，但观众可不能只看那三场戏，要看整体。
整个电影没有压抑感，没能吸引观众，没能给观众在心灵上的震撼，所以，我说，这是李安的失败。---- 俺看完电影，心情很压抑，最后的结尾很令人震撼，在那里又坐了五分钟才走。
你在那里看见了张爱玲的下半身理论?
"强烈讨厌张爱玲的下半身理论，还自以为是的强加到所有女人身上。自认在那样的年代也不会是什么仁人志士的我真的没办法和打着爱情旗号做姘妇的女一号产生什么共鸣。回答有些人的说法，现实是挺“残酷”的，昨天一样今天也一样，但是没人逼你做，要是你说是“爱情”，我无语。我真的是不懂艺术的，但是即使坐在黑暗的影院里也觉得集体欣赏A片是一件万分尴尬的事。没弄明白这位的论调“他们和您不同,他们不是去看性爱戏的快感的.”其实我等是真的没看出您说的“性爱戏的快感”，所以弄不明白王加之怎么爱上老易的？！你们都是很懂艺术的，是李导的知音，想必你们看出了其中的快感，所以才有了感同身受的样子。"
说的好精彩！！！可圈可点! ! !
你说的也没什么不对的，我要提醒李安的是别走张艺谋陈凯歌等人的所谓“玩”电影的假大空路线，自己闭门造车也就算了，不要说观众不接受可能档次不够。
强烈讨厌张爱玲的下半身理论，还自以为是的强加到所有女人身上。自认在那样的年代也不会是什么仁人志士的我真的没办法和打着爱情旗号做姘妇的女一号产生什么共鸣。回答有些人的说法，现实是挺“残酷”的，昨天一样今天也一样，但是没人逼你做，要是你说是“爱情”，我无语。我真的是不懂艺术的，但是即使坐在黑暗的影院里也觉得集体欣赏A片是一件万分尴尬的事。没弄明白这位的论调“他们和您不同,他们不是去看性爱戏的快感的.”其实我等是真的没看出您说的“性爱戏的快感”，所以弄不明白王加之怎么爱上老易的？！你们都是很懂艺术的，是李导的知音，想必你们看出了其中的快感，所以才有了感同身受的样子。
我喜欢色戒，虽然说不上是李安最好的作品，但里面的乱世离情，说不清道不明的欲望，爱恨。。。没有大的什么主义，只有一个爱演戏，生活在自己虚幻世界中的王佳芝。。。让人觉得生命没有归处，飘零感不安定感。。。
"导演和剧组太高调，那种宣传太商业语言，好像不喜欢就是不懂艺术，而一些观众怕被别人说不懂而人云亦云"
李安说北美的票房不会好，因为是中国的文化。而中国人要没在占领区生活过，也不会感受到。这么说来，1949年以后出生的中国大陆人都会看不明白了。还有人说，你要没看过书，也不会理解。
爱，恨，色，情，乃人之常情，一个破电影对观众有那么多的要求，难道去看您的电影咱还得沐浴更衣不成？
可算有人看明白了，哈哈哈哈。谢谢。
...
"但这部“色戒”是他的失败。
他要走这个方向的话，很快就会被好莱坞淘汰。"
黑色幽默，佩服佩服，哈哈
谢谢彩云的评语。
其实，不要把写小说搞电影的看得有多神秘多了不起。很多人也就是混饭吃。谁都有精品和烂东西。
作为大师，最大的本事就是能比一般人多出精品。但时不时地也有令人不满的作品。
艺术家要有灵魂也要有能力来表达他/她的艺术思维。
千万别打着艺术的旗帜吓唬别人。
最可恶的是真把观众当成乡下来的民工来随便耍耍。
偶然路过的人:
我说的你可能接受不了，别的不敢说，但我绝对比你懂电影。
我研究电影不是一天两天的了。李安和他的作品是我比较喜欢的。但这部“色戒”是他的失败。
他要走这个方向的话，很快就会被好莱坞淘汰。
puppymom18:
你错了。
三场激情戏一是这部电影的卖点，二是李安所说的汤VS梁在心灵和肉体上的搏斗进而融合在一起的历程，三是所有剧组人所说的华语电影的突破。
这三场戏是“色戒”的重戏，共拍了九天，是李安最要表现的高潮。
不评这三场戏，就不要评这部电影。
然而，对于我来说，再说一遍，对于我个人来说，李安这三场戏是败笔。
整个电影没有压抑感，没能吸引观众，没能给观众在心灵上的震撼，所以，我说，这是李安的失败。
说得很对。您的确没有变老。
您的这种感觉只能说明您还不够老。
现在这世道讨厌也是需要资格的
noso的观点很独到， 对电影的概括也相当精辟。 当一个导演乃至整个剧组都沉溺于自我陶醉的时候， 需要的就是这样的当头棒喝。 建议全色戒剧组传阅~~~
noso的观点很独到， 对电影的概括也相当精辟。 当一个导演乃至整个剧组都沉溺于自我陶醉的时候， 需要的就是这样的当头棒喝。 建议全色戒剧组传阅~~~
上了。
Well, this is my blog and I say whatever I want to say. Thanks for coming.
问题就在于你所说的也是李安所要表现的，在我看来，都没表现出来。为什么？这就是人物形象塑造太单薄。
I don't feel the love between 王佳芝 and her lover, to me, there is no passion at all. So when she slept with his friend not him, I actually was laughing because I don't believe it could ever happen and I think the whole thing is ridiculous.
Now, if she slept with her lover then slept with the Hanjian, now we are talking about a movie that will be very intersting.
如果你觉得别人可以有其他意见，也可以同这个电影产生共鸣的话，那希望你评论不要太mean。
你的意见大家都知道了，你也没有必要再三说服喜欢这个电影的人去改变他们的看法。拳当喜欢这个电影的都是低能，低品味吧。
谢谢 noso. :-)
关于前两场床戏："当一个花季少女，大学新生王佳芝（汤唯)，为了色诱并刺杀易先生，假拌商人太太；为了在与可能上床之时不再是处女，面对心中暗恋的学长(王力宏），与曾嫖妓的同学“恶补”性经历。“嫖客”是他／她们当中唯一有过经验的人，别无选择。心中也在暗恋王佳芝的学长亲手把“嫖客”送上少女的床。没有争论，没有选择，没有哭泣，没有劝慰，也没时间悲伤，剩下的只有画面上演员的茫然无言，和画面下观众的悲伤心颤。"
关于三场梁VS汤的床戏: "记者都很关心此事, 每次见到李安都会追问, 搞的李安很不耐烦 -- 不关心影片的艺术与内含, 只想八卦。"
"是那可恶的战争，夺走了原本美丽的童真，甜蜜的爱情，幸福的生活，灿烂的人生；却还给人们不堪回首的失真，不敢企盼的爱情，苦涩空虚的生活，早早谢幕的人生。战争不仅拿走了生命，还拿走了真善美，玷污了人的灵魂，扭曲了人的本性。世界什么时候才能不再有战争？"
http://blog.wenxuecity.com/blogview.php?date=200710&postID=1827
http://blog.wenxuecity.com/blogview.php?date=200710&postID=25176
一孔之见，惹您见笑。萝卜青菜，各有所爱，都是正常的。:-)
Check this out:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=lustcaution.htm
The opening night only earned $60,000.00 some dollars.
It has been alomst a month, the box office revenue is only $2 Mil.
The film costed $15 Mil and so far worldwide only sold for $13 Mil.
I got that number from a media report when I saw the movie. Where did u get this $19 M number from? May I have the link please?
谢谢来访，非常喜欢你拍的照片。
你说的那两场就别提了，最大的败笔。我说的这三场是梁VS汤的戏，也是李安所津津乐道的，生怕别人看不懂的三场。
我说的当然是一家之言。
另外，一部好的电影，比如说美国的“教父”，也是取材于小说。你不用看小说也会体会到导演的功力。
华人导演里，李安是有能力的。但这部电影从剧本到演员都不怎么样。李安要么力不从心，要么是走错了方向。
我认为他走错了方向。
俺在首映的第一周就去看了这部电影。５个床上场面（不是３个）都是为剧情所需要的。看后感到很沉重，引人深思。下面是俺的观后感，和另一篇影评。谢谢。
http://blog.wenxuecity.com/blogview.php?date=200710&postID=1827
http://blog.wenxuecity.com/blogview.php?date=200710&postID=25176
Thanks. : )
我是带着崇拜大师的心情去看的。没想到令人如此失望，整个就一失败。
谢谢。以前听巴黎MM常说起你来着。我跟她也很熟。欢迎你。: )
“整个电影，就看着陈冲的麻将打来打去，梁朝伟走来走去，汤唯说来说去，然后俩人搞来搞去。”
说得绝，让人忍俊不尽。
对了，咱不能太刻薄了，要宽以待人 （不是宽衣待人）。 谢谢在崇拜声中讲了些不同的声音。
用李安自己的话说，他是闭门造车。一开始还以为他谦虚，后来看了这个电影还真的是这样。
这部电影整体没有压抑感，所以性爱戏也就没有快感。
这东西跟艺术无关。离好的色情篇又差的远。
小李以为自己是中国人民的大救星/解放者呐。
姥姥不喜舅舅不爱的。全剧组接着哭吧！
why? 江郎才尽~~ : )
中国的这些大导演们，包括李安吧，他是黄皮肤的中国人。
中国好不容易出了一个张艺谋，让外国人见识了中国的电影的艺术，虽然又土又穷又落后，可是还比较实在。。可是人成名后。不知怎的弄出个大片
哈哈，谢谢，这个电影没拍好。
国人电影有一个共同的特点：
说好的都是导演和演员自己，老要以艺术的名义要提高观众的欣赏力。好象花钱看电影的都是民工似的。
其实自己没有本事就说自己没本事，别老说别人不行。
说到底就是一个“骗”字。
李安不同，可这部片子他搞砸了，也开始忽悠了。
我想他是尽力了，可是力不从心。
本以为他能把性爱拍得很不同，很美。可惜，还没三级片的水平。
小佳宝好。Well said indeed.
有几个问题：
1。国内的看三级片比国外的还多。李安错判了。
2。不能因为电影不好，要去看原著来理解电影。要看的话，是李安要多看几遍，不要乱改，要改也要改好一些。
3。北美观众的档次很高，没什么看不懂的，都是博士硕士毕业，都看过张爱龄的小说，怎么可能看不懂？
4。这部电影，李安没有DELIVER。我很失望，因为我是他的粉丝。
哈哈，好久不见了。欢迎欢迎。
这些玩电影太能炒作了，以为观众真是傻子那。
欢迎你，“一级棒”，哈哈。well said indeed.
我觉得李安开始步张艺谋的后尘：开始自恋了。很可惜。
色戒是张爱玲的一部很凝练的小说,在小说中每一个字似乎都需要人去仔细琢磨体会,方能悟出其中,所以电影要演员表达出并准确传送给观者应该不是易事,我认为作者原意本来是说----性与活着的状态--哪一个处在上位或者下位或者侧位?以及男人与女人的不同理解,如果不看两遍原著,很难贴切理解.
“李安就靠那三场激情戏来卖这部电影？以为看这电影的都没见过那阵势吧？
错了，全见过，没准儿还全练过。
我希望李安不是到头了，才拍这种电影。实在可惜他的才华。本来男女私情，是俩人之间的事，实在没有必要再用他自己所谓的艺术表现出来。好像，只有他们懂艺术似的。男女做爱，不是新鲜事，实在用不着假借艺术的口号，来标新立异，说穿了，不就是那一套。谢谢您的分享！很有同感！