加拿大总理 与工程师管理的中国合作

马克·卡尼总理被问及美加两国对中国行为的联合影响

福布斯突发新闻 2025年9月23日
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmHKSAmCAF8

问：

加拿大历届政府都与美国和中国密切合作，有时加拿大为此付出了巨大的代价。您如何评价我们在影响中国行为、经济战略、安全行为等方面的联合效力？如果您认为还有改进的空间，我们觉得应该做哪些改变？总是有改进的空间。嗯，我认为我们可以改进的一点，我想从加拿大的角度来谈谈对华关系。

马克·卡尼：

就是更清楚地说明我们的合作领域。我之前只是略微提到了这一点，但嗯，这是一个变量几何学中的普遍观点。

根据双方志同道合的程度，我们可以进行不同层次的合作。所以，关于中国，或者任何其他国家，无论你在哪里深入参与，在能源领域，例如基础制造业，你觉得深入参与哪个领域比较合适？哪些方面应该被搁置，哪些方面应该与国家安全、隐私等相关。

所以，第一，我们可以做得更好。第二，根据我与中国的经验，他们在气候问题上非常真诚，并且积极参与。这是一个由工程师管理的国家。他们了解很多解决排放问题的工程解决方案。

他们恰好在这些领域也建立了真正的竞争优势。所以，问题是如何参与全球气候议题，他们几乎已经提出了一个长期方案，那就是如何参与其中。对于像加拿大这样的能源超级大国来说，当我们肯定会建设并充分利用这些能源时，我们就会处理这个问题，我们也关心这个问题。这仍然是我们政策的一部分。

仍然是，所以有机会参与。再说一次，美国可以很容易地选择这条路线，但目前可能还不是我们参与的最终目的。

Prime Minister Mark Carney Asked About Joint US-Canada Influence On China's Behavior

Forbes Breaking News 2025年9月23日
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmHKSAmCAF8

Previous governments in Canada have worked quite closely with the US visav China and sometimes it at at a great cost for Canada. how would you assess our joint effectiveness in influencing Chinese behavior, economic strategy, security behavior, etc. And what do you think we ought to be doing differently if you think there's room for improvement? there's always there's always room for improvement. Um that's uh I think one of the things that we can improve on, I'll say this from a Canadian perspective with respect to China?

Mark Carney
 is being clearer about where we engage. I alluded to it very lightly, but um and it's a general point in variable geometry. You have different tiers of engagement depending on how like-minded you are. So with respect to China or any other country that's well any other where do you engage deeply where you comfortable engaging deeply in the commodity space in in aspects of energy for example uh straight uh basic manufacturing where where there guard rails um and what should just be left off to the side elements that bridge into national security uh privacy other aspects like that. So that's where we can be we can be better number one. Number two, um in my experience with China,  they are amongst other things very sincere and engaged on climate. Uh this is a country run by engineers. This is a country that understands a lot of the engineering solutions to issues around emission. they've happened to have built real competitive advantage in a number of these areas as well. So there's a question of how and there is a almost a standing offer from them about how to engage in the global comments in and around climate uh which a country like Canada which is a it is an energy superpower um when we're certainly going to build and uh fully exploit that then we're dealing on and we care about this issue as well. It's still part of our policy.
is still part of uh uh and and so there's an opportunity to engage. Again, the United States can choose could choose that lane uh very easily, but probably at the moment that's not where the the engagement will