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Jayant Bhandari 问题在猪文化非债务 资本主义与道德
Jayant Bhandari - 问题在于PIGS文化而非债务 [2015年资本主义与道德研讨会]
资本主义与道德 2016年5月6日
Jayant Bhandari-PIGS Culture Not Debt is the Problem [Capitalism & Morality Seminar 2015]
Capitalism And Morality 2016年5月6日
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2015年资本主义与道德研讨会完整播放列表：• Roslyn Ross - 养育孩子是一项……
Jayant是《自由》杂志的特约编辑，曾为米塞斯研究所、米塞斯研究所（加拿大）、凯西研究中心、《魁北克自由报》、《Sprott’s Thoughts》、LewRockwell.com等机构撰稿。本次演讲于2015年8月在加拿大温哥华举行的资本主义与道德研讨会上发表。http://www.jayantbhandari.com/Seminar...
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我想谈谈我对……的看法。西方文明
可能正在消亡，我最近刚结束在意大利为期一个月的访问。过去几年，我访问过希腊、西班牙和意大利很长一段时间。我的兴趣不仅在于了解地中海沿岸国家的未来，还在于感受西方文明的未来。以一种非常复杂的方式，我认为人们应该
访问这些国家，了解发展中国家的未来。旅行时，我的主要兴趣是了解我所访问国家的文化。我更喜欢像当地人一样生活。我会在咖啡馆闲逛，去当地人常去的地方。我花很多时间在城市的贫困地区，我会去那些没有最贫困人口的城市。在我看来，很容易迷失在经济数字中，所以你可以选择你想要得出的结论，然后你可以选择一个经济数字，这样人们就会选择GDP、GDP增长率、利率、汇率、人口统计数据、公共和私人债务等数字。你几乎可以……随便找一个数字来证明，你有一个预先确定的清单，在我看来，这些都是孤立的，它讨厌你，它们本身无法帮助你理解这个国家正在走的路。要理解这条路，你必须试着去理解这个国家的文化。文化就是规则。你理解了文化，你就会明白，你就会解开分支的谜题。你理解了文化，它为你提供了一个背景，让你能够理解我所说的经济数据的细节。我认为很多经济学家应该避免住五星级酒店，开着装有空调的奔驰车到处跑。他们无法通过在核心国家过西方生活来真正理解当地文化。一旦你理解了文化，你就不会再感到困惑，你也不会再陷入关于索马里是不是自由主义国家、瑞典是不是社会主义国家的循环讨论。但今天我想谈谈葡萄牙、意大利、希腊和西班牙，统称为空间。在我的演讲中，你会发现我很喜欢这个缩写词，现在在更大的范围内，特别是希腊和塞浦路斯。微不足道，它们对世界没有任何影响，某种程度上只是噪音，但它们能让你一窥西方文明的未来。正如我所说，我去过这些国家，过去几年在这些国家待了相当长一段时间，但因为意大利在我脑海中记忆犹新，所以我将主要关注意大利。接下来我要谈论的内容，我认为在文化上也适用于其他科技领域。罗马帝国曾经统治过世界上很大一部分地区，在其鼎盛时期，它建立在希腊的贡献之上。他们提供了一种感知世界的方式，将人类与动物区分开来。他们做了一些事情，将人类从军营生活提升到文明社会。那是什么？希腊和罗马向人类展示了一种推理和理解因果关系的方法。现在，那些理解这些概念、在这些概念中长大的人认为它们是理所当然的，但对很大一部分人类来说，情况并非如此。希腊和罗马开创了一种能够将人类从未知、神秘和不可预测的力量下解放出来的方法。出于对自然的敬畏以及对中世纪晚期牧师的恐惧，意大利对文艺复兴做出了巨大的贡献，这基本上推动了人类文明前所未有的物质进步，像列奥纳多达芬奇和米开朗基罗这样的天才就生活在这里，这就是今天的意大利，这是一个常见的叙事惯例，关于挂钩的可接受的叙述，我经常听到这种叙述，这种叙述是猪是自由放任的社会，这种叙述是这些国家给予他们的人民很多个人自由，他们可能不会在金钱上滚滚而来，但根据这种叙述，这些人实际上享受着他们的生活，当然，当他们试图将猪与现在的北美人进行比较时，这种叙述就出现了，意大利人时尚吸引着来自世界各地的人们，从日本、韩国到中国。当你傍晚漫步在城市里的公共广场，你会发现很早就挤满了年轻人。当然，在意大利你可以公开喝酒。我完全支持这一点。这些年轻人来到公共广场时，他们应该已经睡了个长觉了。而当我晨跑的时候，他们还在广场上聚会。现在，这些人以深厚的社会地位和紧密的家庭关系而闻名。这些家庭关系应该非常紧密。我来自一个传统观念认为家庭关系非常紧密的国家，但我现在不想谈论这个。人们相信这些人非常热心，他们互相关心。然而，这只是冰山一角，现实情况却大相径庭。希腊最近投票决定，反对减少他们从欧盟其他国家获得的免费物品。几十年的安逸生活和游离碱让很多人养成了养宠物的习惯。期待免费的东西是他们现在的天性，正如我所说，我旅行时尝试与很多人交谈，但我很难回忆起一个衣着光鲜、受过良好教育的人告诉我，
他们同意减少免费赠品，他们已经习惯于继续获得免费的东西。现在，猪在很多方面都是第三世界国家，如果不是靠近或被摧毁的北欧，他们就会是第三世界国家。
公共场所到处都是涂鸦，火车站和银行都很脏，排队很长，毫无帮助，而且经常是路。真的，如果你最终惹恼了一位自以为高人一等的意大利阿姨，所有问题都会被夸大，即使是无关紧要的问题也会冒出来，然后就会爆发，最终导致局势的爆发。
情绪无法通过理性来化解，你必须用情绪来缓和。所以，让我来谈谈我在意大利遇到的一些事情。我深夜抵达米兰机场，走出海关区，问讯处空无一人，没有安保。官方的，要么完全没有，要么根本没有，根本就没有任何人能给你提供任何帮助，机场也没有自动取款机，晚上他们都锁起来了，我在希腊、西班牙和意大利旅行时，脑子里立刻闪过一个问题：意大利的年轻人失业率是41%，而失业率只有1%。我一直在想的问题是，失业率这么高，为什么这些信息台没有管理处，为什么没有人来帮忙？我本来可以做那种工作，每小时5美元甚至更低。现在对千禧一代来说，这就是令人惊叹的建筑。在斗兽场建成后的今天，它每天的接待人数仍然比它实际运营时多。他们现在赚的钱比以往任何时候都多。意大利的城市挤满了游客，不是欧洲人，而是去他们的海滩、城市、博物馆和度假村。500到2000年前在意大利投资的资本，仍然是意大利最大的收入来源之一，这就是资本的好处，它可以让你即使发动机长时间失去动力，车辆也能正常运转。但当我参观古罗马广场、罗马斗兽场和博物馆时，我的经历与我在米兰机场的经历非常相似。我通常会期待保安、导游等人员确保游客不会打扰博物馆里那些昂贵的艺术品和雕像，或者不会真的去弄乱罗马斗兽场的石头等等。但我几乎从未在这些地方看到过人。他们站在这些建筑物外面聊天、抽烟。现在，猪圈里的人有非常强烈的受害者心态。受害者心态本身就足以摧毁任何文明。在彭博社，你可能会听到或看到希腊人、意大利人和西班牙人抱怨德国人停止给他们送免费的东西。但当我和这些人交谈时，我几乎从未听到过德国这个名字。他们讨厌的不是德国，而是彼此。如果你和亚美尼亚人交谈，他们会谈论土耳其人，你以为土耳其人会针对土耳其人，他们会谈论希腊，而希腊人会说意大利人很多坏话，而意大利人会说西班牙的坏话。反之亦然，这是一种奇怪的狭隘的民族主义，我在这些国家看到过，如果你在意大利，如果你看到一座雕像，如果你对一个意大利人暗示你认为这座雕像可能是希腊的，你会脸红，脸上有一些非常简单的事情，比如穿这个，喝点好饮料，或者那个长相甜美的扫地机器人，你在工作内裤里吃的东西是土耳其软糖之类的希腊语会导致心胸狭窄的民族主义论点，我对在这些国家所看到的一切感到非常不寒而栗，现在扒窃在巴勒斯坦极为常见，他们是世界上最厉害的扒窃者，大约一个月前，我的护照、信用卡、现金、相机和其他一些东西被扒窃了，当时我正在那不勒斯机场模糊的火车站查看火车的站台分配，对不起，发生了一件好事，我头顶上到处都是CCD摄像机，当这件事发生在我身上时，我非常自信地跑到警察局，不到五分钟，我就和一名警察交谈，向他解释发生了什么事，但我还没来得及解释，他笑了，然后他让我填个表，挥手让我走，我坚持要他至少出来，距离我被扒窃的地方只有半分钟的路程，如果他能确定地点，以便他可以与闭路电视录像进行核对，他们绝对没有兴趣这样做，现在在我接下来的评论中，Sariah继续说道，如果有必要，所以我没有护照，没有钱，没有信用卡，我得赶往下一个目的地，所以我去了售票处，柜台说这是警方报告，我有票，但我的火车已经开走了，因为我当时在警察局，能让我上下一班火车吗？
那趟车还有15到20分钟就要开了。他态度很粗鲁，既不热情也不关心我的问题。我和经理谈过，他的回答和接下来的谈话中类似。接下来的两周，我还在意大利旅行。我跟几个人提到了这起扒窃案，他们几乎本能地认为扒窃我的人是吉普赛人。如果你是非洲人、吉普赛人或黑人，那你很难在pegs找到工作。现在，我其实对这三个群体没有太多同情，因为总的来说，他们来自更糟糕的国家，他们应该更好地利用他们来的地方的机会。但与此同时，很难理解这种对pegs的偏见在针对吉普赛人、穆斯林和黑人的系统中是如何形成的。现在，在我把这些线索联系起来之后，我的情况也是如此。我意识到我被意大利白人“坑”了，但我把这件事告诉了警察，他们对我的话不感兴趣。后来我把这件事告诉了其他人，他们也失去了兴趣。所以在我看来，与北美人相比，那些“钉子”们并不是真正随心所欲的人。他们对工作漠不关心，更热衷于分手。他们非常消费主义，更容易花光所有积蓄，因此更容易负债。他们非常注重部落观念，并不真正关心部落之外的人。这个问题萦绕在我脑海里一段时间。他们是否关心部落内部的人？我不确定我是否有足够的轶事经验可以分享。所以我想知道这些家庭的联系有多紧密。我确实认识一些人，我在意大利的一些熟人，他们非常注重家庭。他们的孩子直到三四十岁仍然和父母住在一起。但这种联系似乎很小，因为妈妈们洗衣服做饭，但这只是一个想法。
我不确定实际情况如何。我所知道的是，他们如何工作以及如何维护公共空间，并不能反映出他们对彼此的爱、开车、吸烟和对工作的厌恶。
这真的能说明这些人的幸福生活吗？对我来说，
现在，整天做着讨厌的事情，这真的很难受。
在我看来，我并不反对这种可怜的生活方式，但在我看来，以享乐为中心的
生活，以享乐和无休止的派对为中心，或者仅仅是为了
逃避日常生活的单调乏味。
所以我知道电视和公共媒体上有很多关于猪死亡的讨论，人们认为死亡才是问题所在。
我认为这些人主要关注的是表面现象，正如我最初所说，他们主要关注一些孤立的经济数字，而
猪的处境与世界上任何地方的穷人的处境并没有什么不同。
中了数百万美元的彩票，那些穷困潦倒的人
往往在几个月内就会变得和中奖前一样穷困潦倒。
我认为猪的情况也类似，如果用一根魔杖
就能中和死亡，它们的情况很快就会恶化。
宠物的问题其实是他们文化的问题，他们已经失去了理性。
这很讽刺，因为这个地区是理性的发源地。
在我看来，列奥纳多·达·芬奇和米开朗基罗在意大利会完全感到格格不入。
这就是我得出的结论：当我说我看到了西方文明的未来，但在邪教中经济和情感依赖的根源，乞丐心态，积极权利的概念堵塞了社会文明的动脉，这些积压物会不断积累，社会越不理性，就越难找到回归理性的途径，所以那些认为真理和理性永远应该被接受的人，我认为是完全错误的。为了避免像北欧和北美那样的未来，我认为应该尝试了解猪的文化，我不想就此展开太多，但即使是发展中国家也应该关注猪，因为如果快速获得太多金钱，事情就会变得糟糕。但这些都是修辞建议，因为一旦趋势形成，你就无法改变它或扭转它的方向。非常感谢你的时间。我有几分钟时间，如果你有什么问题，是的，我从巴西得到消息。你提到的葡萄牙和意大利，实际上就是像磁铁一样吸引我家人的国家。你提到的其他问题被动接收者，但哇，我现在看到的是每个人的心态都发生了巨大的变化，想到了德克尔的……接收上面的叶子，很多人都转向了之前的回归……以下这些例子正在读出来，所以我想知道你是否认为……可以通过教育来改变……不是标准教育，这意味着我认为只要任何国家都有……民主，它只会越来越糟，直到你无能为力……所以你也许可以向前迈一步，……在后退两步之后，这就是我想象中你刚才说的……但只要一个国家是民主的，我就看不到……一个国家改变其路线的机会，原因是……几乎可以肯定，超过50%的人口不喜欢……思考，他们喜欢免费的东西，他们会投票获得免费的东西，而且他们……是任何社会中最大的投票集团，是的，先生，你可能有一些……关于印度的发言可信度，也许你可以……就印度语境来说，抱歉，你或许还算有点可信度。
说到印度，或许你可以谈谈印度文化，而且, 这令人印象深刻。建议拍电影或者其他人可能会有所作为。嗯，我再说一遍，政客们能做的最好的事情就是不要让事情变得更糟。所以指望莫迪能改变这个国家的发展方向，
这是不可能的。但实际上，从这个角度来看，我对印度更加悲观。莫迪是个傻瓜。
他是个印度教狂热分子。他缺乏对复杂性的理解。所以他试图打破过于简单的决定。过去几年，印度教狂热一直在这个国家蔓延。我认为，就改变这个国家的体制结构而言，这绝对不可能。因为管理这个国家的是官僚，而不是政客。
但每个国家可能都是这样。我们总是把责任归咎于过去，我们把太多的责任归咎于
政客。真正的责任应该归咎于官僚。但实际上，我必须从恍惚地走向道路，这就是印度的文化，所以如果你和普通印度人交谈，每个印度人都会告诉你，他希望终结腐败。然后你观察他的行为，他会收受贿赂，只要……这是一个极其不诚实的社会，只要这些人内部……如此腐败，这种文化就不可能创造或延续……机构里有人可以诚实，我只想说一句，对不起，她……对不起，鸭子，是的……嗯，不过，当我说话的时候，我表达了我对许多发展中国家的失望，我认为非洲、印度和许多其他国家……虽然变得富裕了，但我认为他们的文化并没有进步。我认为……中国不同。我对中国更乐观，因为……在过去50年左右经历了一次重置，无论发生了什么……在革命期间，我并不是说这应该发生，但在某种程度上，在我看来，其次要的后果是……一种文化经历了某种重置。我发现与中国人交流和讲道理非常容易，而且你可以和他们讨论关于台湾和西藏的问题。当然，不是所有人都参与，但中国人的比例比印度人或非洲人要大得多，所以我对中国持更乐观的态度。我见过书店，我经常去中国。我在中国大城市看到过三、四、五层楼的书店。在这个国家，人们说版权侵权非常普遍。但现实是，很多书都被翻译成了普通话，所以即使它们没有被复制，中国对原版书籍的需求也很大。沃伦·巴菲特、史蒂芬·柯维、戴尔·卡耐基的著作也有很多。所以在我看来，中国正在经历一场文化复兴。我认为我们已经时间不够了, 所以我很乐意稍后再和其他人聊，非常感谢, 我们会用巴尔的摩的水
Jayant Bhandari-PIGS Culture Not Debt is the Problem [Capitalism & Morality Seminar 2015]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiRgubeec9M
Full Capitalism & Morality Conference 2015 Playlist: 
• Roslyn Ross-Raising Children is an Ac...
civilized civilization might be going and I have recently returned from a
one-month long visit to Italy and over the last few years I have visited for a long period of time I stayed for a long period of time in Greece and Spain and Italy and my interest was to not only to understand to get a feel for the future of the countries around the Mediterranean Sea but my interest was to get a feel for the future of the Western civilization and in a very convoluted way I also think that people should
visit those countries to understand the future of the developing world when a travel my key interest group is to understand the culture of the country I'm visiting I prefer to live like a local I hang around at coffee shops I go to places where local people go I spend a lot of time in the poor parts of the cities and I go to cities that no poorest foster in my view it's very easy to get lost in economic numbers so you can pick and choose about which what conclusion you want to reach and then you can pick and choose an economic number so people will pick up numbers on GDP GDP growth rate interest rate currency rate demographics public and private debt you can pretty much pick up any number to prove a can that you have lists pre-decided on in my view these are isolated it hates you they cannot by themselves help you understand the course that the country is on to understand the course one must try to understand the culture of the country culture is the rules you understand the culture and you will understand you will solve the puzzle of the branches you understand the culture and it gives you a context to understand the details the economic numbers that I was talking about and I think a lot of economists should abstain from staying in 5-star hotels and driving around in a car conditioned Mercedes they can't really understand the local culture by living Western ways in the core countries and once you understand the culture you will no longer get confused about and you would go get into circular discussions on whether Somalia is a libertarian country or not and whether Sweden is a socialist country or not but today I want to talk about Portugal Italy Greece and Spain collectively known as space and as I go through my talk you will realize I quite like this acronym Peg's now in the larger scheme of things pace and particularly Greece and Cyprus are insignificant they don't really make any difference to the world they are just noise in a way but they give you a glimpse of the future of the Western civilization as I said I have been to these countries I have spent a fair bit of time in these countries over the last few years but because Italy is fresh in my mind I'm going to focus mostly on Italy what I'm going to talk about I think holds true culturally for the rest of techs from Rome an empire once ruled a very significant significant part of the world during its heyday is building on the contribution made by Greece they provided a way of perceiving the world that distinguished human beings from animals they did something that raised human beings from a barrack life to civilization what was that Greece and Rome showed to humanity a way to reason and to understand the concept of causality now those people who understand these concepts who grew up in these concepts think take them as given as natural that's not true for a large part of human population Greece and Rome is started an approach that could
release humanity from quivering under the unknown mysterious the unpredictable
forces of nature and from the fear of the priests in the late Middle Ages Italy contributed enormously to the Renaissance which basically set in motion an unprecedented material progress for human civilization geniuses like Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo lived and what is called Italy today now this is a common narrative convention acceptable narrative about pegs that I hear quite often and the narrative is that pigs are freewheeling societies the narrative is that these countries give a lot of personal freedom to their people they might not be rolling in money but according to the narrative these people actually enjoy their lives and this is of course this narrative comes up when they try to compare pigs with North Americans now Italian fashions attract
people from all over the world from Japan from Korea from China when you
walk around the cities early in the evenings public squares called Piazza
they start getting clouded with young people very early in the evenings and of
course you can drink openly in Italy and I'm all in support of that these young
people when they start arriving at the public squares they would have had their
long siestas and when I went out for my
morning jog they were still partying in the public squares now these people pigs
are known for their deep social positions and they close-knit families
the families are supposed to be very close-knit families and I also come from
a country where the conventional narrative is that they have very close-knit families but I'm going to not
talk about that right now it is believed that these people are very warm-hearted
people they care for each other and then is scratch the surface and the reality
is very different now Greece recently
voted to say no to reduction in free
stuff that they have been getting from rest of European Union
now decades of easy life and freebase have hardwired many people in pets to
expect free stuff as their fundamental natural right now as I said I try to
talk with a lot of people when I travel and I'm struggling to recall a well-dressed educated person who told me
in pace that they agreed with reduction in freebies they have been hardwired to
continue to get free stuff now pigs are third world countries in
many ways and they would be third world countries were there not proximal to or
destroyed northern Europe graffiti is everywhere in this public
spaces are dirty at the train stations and at banks the lineups are long
unhelpful and often Road and really if
you end up annoying an italian auntie who somehow assumes a superior position
every issue will be blown out of proportion even non issues will crop up
and then they will blow up and a situation that gets created because of
emotions cannot be undone through reason you have to deescalate using emotions so
let's let me talk about a few encounters I had in Italy I arrived very late in
the night at Milan airport and I exited
the customs area and the information desks were completely empty there was no
security official either there was absolutely none none at all to give you
any of help whatsoever there was no ATM at
the airport they were all locked away for the night and the one question that
came to me when I was traveling in Greece and Spain and Italy immediately
came to my mind in Italy unemployment rate among the youth is 41% for 1% the
question that I always got in my mind was with so much unemployment why were these information desks not
manager why we were there no people to help you around I would have done that
kind of job for $5 an hour or much less
now to Millennials and this is these are this is amazing architecture to
Millennia's after the construction of the collosseum today it still gets more
people per day than it ever got when it was actually operational they are making
much much more money today than they ever made Italian cities are packed with
tourists not Europeans go to their
beaches the cities the museums the resorts a capital that was invested
between 500 to 2,000 years back in Italy is a still one of the biggest revenue
generator in Italy and that is the good thing about capital it can keep you
running even when you have lost the engine power for a very long time but
when I visited Roman Forum the colloseum the the museum's experience something
very similar that I experienced at the Milan Airport
I would have normally expected guards
guides people to make sure that the tourists did not disturb those expensive
art and statues at the museum's or did not really mess around with rocks that
the colloseum etc etcetera but I hardly
ever found people around in these places what was happening they were standing
outside these buildings chatting away and smoking now people in pigs have a
very strong sense of victim mentality
victim mentality by itself is enough to undo any civilization and on Bloomberg
you might hear you might hear or watch Greeks and Italians and Spanish
complaining that Germans have stopped sending free stuff to them but but when
I talked with these people I almost never heard the name Germany what the
hate is not Germany but each other you talk with Armenians and they will
about Turkish you thought the Turkish and target Turkish will about Greece and Greece have a lot of bad
things to say about Italians and Italians have bad things to say about Spain and vice versa and it's an in a
strange kind of a small-minded nationalism that I have seen in these
countries if you are in Italy and if you see a statue and if to an Italian you
might allude to your thought that that statue might be Greek you have some very
red face faces very simple things like wear this a nice drink wasn't
or whether that sweet-looking sweep his stuff that you ate in job briefs was
Turkish Delight or something Greek can lead to very small minded nationalistic
argumentation I certainly shuddered at
what I have seen in those countries now pickpocketing is extremely common in
pegs they are the best pick pocketers in the world almost a month back my
passport my credit cards and my cash my
cameras and several other things were pickpocketed when I was looking at platform
allocation of my train at Naples Airport nebulous train station sorry there was
one good thing that happened there were CCD cameras all above me while this
happened to me so very confidently I ran to the police station within five
minutes I was talking with a police officer explaining to him what had
happened but before I could do that he laughed and then he asked me to fill up
a form and waved me off I insisted that
he at least came out it it was only half us half a minute away where I was pickpocketed if he could identify the
location so that he could cross-check with the CCTV recording they had
absolutely no interest in doing so now
in my subsequent comment Sariah with this if necessary actually continues so I was without my passport
without money without credit cards and I had to get to my next destination so I
went to the ticket counter and it said this is the police report and I have a
ticket but my train is gone because I was at the police station can you let me on the next train which
was leaving in 15 or 20 minutes he was rude unhelpful and not interested I
talked with the manager and the response was similar now in subsequent
conversation while I was still traveling in Italy for the next two weeks I mentioned this pickpocketing case to
several people and almost instinctively
they assumed that the post people who pick pocketed me were gypsies now if you
are an African or a gypsy or a black bad luck it's not easy for you to find a job
in pegs now I have actually don't have
much sympathy for these three communities because in general they came
from much worse of countries and they should have exploited the opportunities better where they came to but at the
same time it's difficult to understand
how systemic this belief goes in pegs
against gypsies Muslims and blacks now
in my case after I had connected the dots I realized that I was big pocket
'add by white Italian men but I told
this to the police they were not interested in listening to me when I
told this to deep other people I talked with later they lost interest so
compared to people in North America in my view people of pegs are not really
freewheeling people they tend to be very apathetic towards
their work much more keen on parting
they're very consumerist and they're more prone to spend what they have and
hence more prone to be indebted they are
very tribal and don't really care about
other people outside their tribe but that's this was the question that
lingered in my mind for a while do they care about people within the tribe and
I'm not sure I don't have enough anecdotal experiences here to talk about
so I want to know how close-knit the families are but I do know some people
some of my acquaintances in Italy and these are very homely people they stay
children is still stay with their parents until they are in their 30s and 40s but it seems to be that small
because the mom does the laundry and cooks the food but that's just a thought
I'm not sure what's actually happening what is something I know is that how
they do their jobs and how they look after their public spaces does not tell
me much about their love for each other drivin smoking occur dislike for work
does it really tell you about happy lives of those people not to me
it must be truly hard to spend your day hating doing what you hate to do now in
my view and I have nothing against poor thing but in my view a pleasure centered
life life centered on pleasure and never-ending partying or nothing but an
escape from the drudgery of normal existence
so I know there has been a lot of conversations about on TV and in the
public media about deaths of pigs and a belief is that deaths is what the
problem is and I think these people mainly look at look at the surface as I
said initially they mainly look at some of the isolated economic numbers and the
situation of pigs is no different from what happens to a poor person anywhere
in the world who wins a multi-million dollar lottery those big poor people
often within months go as broke as they did they were before they won the
lottery and I think the situation of pigs is very similar if through a magic
wand I could neutralize the deaths they would be worse off in almost no time
the problem of the pets is the problem of their culture they have lost reason
and this is very ironical because that this area was the birthplace of Reason
Leonardo da Vinci and Michael Angelo would be completely out feel out of
place and in Italy in my view and this
is where I come to my conclusion on what on earth when I say I see a claims of
the West future of the Western civilization here but in the culture of economic and
emotional dependence beggar mentality the concept of positive rights clogs the
arteries of the civilization of the society and these cloths continue to
accumulate more and more of the same as a society becomes more irrational the
less capable it becomes to find it way back to rationality so those people who
think that truth and reason should always when are completely wrong I think
to avoid the future same as that of pace Northern Europe and North America should
try to understand the culture of pigs I think and I don't want to expand on this
much but even the developing world should pay attention to pigs because if
you get too much money too quickly things go wrong for you but these are
all rhetorical suggestions because once a trend has been set in motion you
cannot change it or reverse its direction thank you very much for your
time
I have a couple of minutes if you have any questions yes so I got from Brazil
and the countries that you mentioned Portugal and Italy actually are the ones
that colonize my family like a magnet other problems you mentioned a passive
receiver but what Wow what I'm seeing right now is a great change in the mindset of everybody thought of Decker's
receive above the leaf a lot of people are turning to the return of before
following these instances are reading out so I was wondering if you think that
there can be change through education
not a standard education that means I think as long as any country has
democracy it can only get worse and worse by the time there's nothing you
can do about it so there might you might be able to take a step forward once
after taking two steps backwards and that's what I would imagine what you
just said might be but as long as a country's Democratic I don't see a
chance for a country that changes its course and the reason is that there is
more almost certainly more than 50% of any population that does not like to
think and they like free stuff and they will vote to get the free stuff and they
do they are the biggest voting bloc in any society yes sir you might have some
credibility speaking on India perhaps you could talk in the context of Indian sorry you have some credibility probably
speaking India perhaps you could speak on Indian culture and the probability
that is impressive suggestion to the movie or somebody else might make some difference well again I the best
politicians can do is not to make things worse so expecting Modi to change the course
of that country in a positive direction is not going to happen but I'm actually
much more pessimistic about India from that perspective Modi is a simpleton
he's a Hindu fanatic he he lacks an
understanding of complexity so he is attempt is he his instincts want to
break simplistic decisions Hindu fanaticism has
consistently drawn in that country over the last few years and I think as far as
being able to change the institutional structure of the country it's absolutely
impossible because the bureaucrats run that country not politicians but that is
probably true with every country we blame the past we give too much blame to
politicians the real blame goes to the bureaucrats but then actually I must go
down from the trance to the roads and that is the culture so if you talk
without normal Indian every Indian will tell you that he wants end to corruption
and then you watch his behavior he will take and accept bribes as long as the
it's an extremely dishonest society as long as those people within themselves
are so corrupt they it's impossible for that culture to create or continue to
have people in institutions that can be honest just one quick one sorry she
sorry duck yes
um though so when I was talking I expressed my disillusionment with a lot
of developing world and I think Africa and India and a lot of other countries
have become rich but I don't think culturally they have improved I think
China is different I'm much more optimistic about China in a way it has
been through a reset in the last 50 years or so well whatever happened
during the Revolution are not saying it should have happened but in a way the secondary consequence in my view has
been that a culture has been through a sort of reset I have found it very easy
to communicate with Chinese and reason with them and you can discuss with them
about Taiwan and Tibbets not without everyone of course but with a much larger proportion of Chinese than with
let's say Indians or Africans so I'm much more optimistic about China I have
seen bookstores and I go to China quite often I have seen bookstores in big
cities in China that are three four or five floor Begg and this is a country
where people say that copyright violation is very common the reality is
that a lot of these books are translated into Mandarin so even if they're not
copied there is enough demand for original copies in China of books
written by Warren Buffett Stephen Covey Dale Carnegie so in my view there is a
cultural Renaissance happening in China a I think we have run out of
time so I will be very happy to talk with others later thank you very much
and we'll have all Baltimore water
