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Jerusalem is a nuclear reactor of hatred
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2024年3月14日
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许知远 问
I just travel from the
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Jerusalem The Old City you see the
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different culture different religion and
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I mean we're mixed mixed culture and a
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lots of Burden from history is there
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kind of Israeli mentality could you
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describe it uh
Israli答
作为一名游客，也许你会去那里，哦，这很有趣，你看到所有的老地方，所有这些都是耶稣所在的地方等等，但你住在那里，那个地方的仇恨程度就像一个仇恨的核反应堆 ；你知道宗教可以是一件美妙的事情，但是当你住在耶路撒冷时，你意识到它可以是一件可怕的事情，理想情况下，寺庙或宗教场所是你去体验多少仇恨和愤怒的地方 和平与和谐 MH 呃，如果你去一座寺庙，体验到仇恨和愤怒，那么这就是一座功能失调的寺庙，它不起作用，你知道，这就像去医院，回来时病得更严重，所以耶路撒冷对我来说是一座功能失调的寺庙 寺庙。
as a tourist maybe you go there， oh it's very interesting， you see all all the old places all the this is where Jesus was and so forth， but you live there， the amount of hatred in that place it's like a nuclear reactor of hatred； you know religion can be a wonderful thing， but when you live in Jerusalem， you realize that it can be a terrible thing， how much hatred and anger ideally， a temple or a religious place is a place where you go in order to experience peace and Harmony MH uh if you go to a temple and you experience hatred and anger then this is a dysfunctional Temple， it's not working you know， it's like going to a hospital and getting back even more sick， so Jerusalem for me is a dysfunctional Temple。
许知远问
how this kind of thing shape your
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shape your mind shape your
Israeli 答
the influence on me of if if this is what
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you ask it obviously has an impact I
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mean if you live in a place like Silicon
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Valley maybe you can have this kind of
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utopian vision of a world governed by
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science and by rationality and things
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like that but if you live in the Middle
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East it's obvious to you that you cannot
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escape this tension because all around
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you people are killing each other
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because of their belief in fictional
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stories so you uh it's very clear to you
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that fiction is extremely powerful thing
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um my house my the the the the village
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where I live is exactly middle of the
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way between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem the
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one hand I'm very connected to this
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world of Tel Aviv yeah modern technology
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all that and on the other very connected
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to Jerusalem with all the religion and
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mythology and especially this is why I
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think much of my writing and scholarship
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is about this tension between the modern
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world of the 21st century and artificial
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intelligence and then all that and on
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the other hand the the still great
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impact of all these mythologies and and
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fictional stories and and religions when
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did you notice the tension
问
when did you notice the I mean the hatred of
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religions and I mean
Israeli 答
I think only when I
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left Israel and I went to do my PhD in
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Oxford O then I realized how much
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tension there is in the place or you
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know when you born into it you think
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well this is how the world is and only
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when you go out you realize no this is
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think about yeah
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许
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hi nice to meet
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you
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okay how do you think about the Jewish
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people I mean the Jewish come back take
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the city they become the new Authority
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is understanding or for you not
律师答
for me I
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don't have a problem with the religion
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about the Jews M and they was living
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here before the occupation and we have
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places that they are neighbors of the
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Arabs and they don't have any problem
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with the Palestinian here M before the
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occupation uh when they kick them out
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from Europe and receed them and later
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they are get of this
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country but after it's begin the
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problem when I talk with the Israelis
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most of the people they uh have this
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stereotype we really feel that when they
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talking with me
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are you real Arab yeah I am Arab are you
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born in yes I am born here you know here
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the thing that it's helped me to live
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here in Jerusalem it's how I
