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名嘴卡弗蒂性感沙朗斯通 另眼看西方文明(组图)

(2008-05-29 15:35:59) 下一个


前一段时间因为西藏事件,著名主持人杰克•卡佛蒂发表了不当言论,激怒了无数的海内外华人;这些天,著名明星莎朗•斯通针对四川地震接受采访出言不逊,又再次伤害了海内外华人的心。虽说前后二人都表达了歉意,但是许多华人还是不依不饶,难平民愤。

也有一些人为二人辩护,一是逐字逐句分析了主持人的英文原话,结论是他针对的是中国政府而不是中国人民;二是女明星也言之为灾区做点事情,曾经是亲善大使,也曾关注过战争孤儿。不过前者虽说一贯以批评政府主持正义著称,但是他历来把美国政府和美国人民分的很清,这次却忽略了中国政府和中国人的用词;后者或许没有体会到地震给平民百姓带来的伤痛,有意无意把天灾联系了报应。

这两位应该算是西方文明上流社会的高智商人士了,当然,他们的言语不能代表西方主流社会,也许是一时的不慎和对事情的不太了解,但是某种程度上,也确实反映了西方社会的个别人,骨子里面和内心深处对中国的偏见,对中国人的歧视甚至仇视;反映了西方个别人“高度文明”把持的所谓普世价值观、居高临下看待中国所发生的一切的心理。

过去,由于中国自身的问题,我们或许曾经被洗脑,西方在我们的脑子里,是帝国主义丑陋的嘴脸,尽管我们常常持怀疑的态度。当改革开放,开始接触西方人,感受到了西方人的文明和富裕,又转而对西方崇拜的五体投地或者说非常敬重。但是时间久了,慢慢的也会感受到,无论西方人还是东方人,因为都要食人间烟火,所谓西方文明,并非无可挑剔。

有人常说中国人素质不高,以随地吐痰缺少秩序衣冠不整为例。西方人确实在这方面比我们强的太多,他们从小受到的教育或者说已经养成好的生活习惯,其实严格说起来,这些和他们骨髓里的东西并没有直接地联系。衣冠楚楚绅士风度,并不意味着这个人很善良;随地吐痰衣冠不整并不意味着这个人品质很坏。美国有的杀人犯强奸犯会在犯罪的时候,还在说着对不起。

你在美国,彬彬有礼给您开门让路的白人或许是习惯性动作并非是发自内心的善举;你在中国,一位衣冠不整的人帮您开门让路或许是出自于真心要帮你。你在美国,接受白人帮助搬东西的时候你会非常担心别伤害到了他的身体,不然你或许会有很大的麻烦;你在中国,或许你的朋友给你提供同样的帮助你不会有太多的担心,怀疑可能给你带来麻烦的问题。

某些时候,我喜欢做了错事而被中国老板痛骂,而不喜欢白人老板笑眯眯的给我一个信封说明天你不要来了。西方的文明有许多的可称道之处,有许多学习和借鉴的地方;但是西方的文明,也有许多虚伪的让人捉摸不透的东西。中国的古老文明和传承一样有许多美好的东西,但是也有许多不尽人意之处。四川地震后国人表现出来的大爱让人感动,个别西方文明人的冷漠和挑剔也让人感到吃惊。

看到报道,在开往四川的某列火车上,有七成自愿前往的志愿者,其中两位因为一件小事动了肝火要拳打脚踢,但是到了四川,却是同心协力生死与共为灾区奉献着自己的一切,这大概就是中国特色文明的一个侧面写照吧。或许平时语言有些粗俗,行为有些鲁莽,小事有点不拘,但是到了关键的时候,同胞之间可以彼此救护而不惜自己的生命,这些,怕是个别的西方文明所不能解释的。相比之下,乱伦自己的骨肉肢解女童的尸体的变态者,还在习惯性文明地说着对不起,实在是让人对这种“文明”作呕。

我们不必为那位卡先生和莎女士生那么大的气。在一些西方文明人的眼睛里、骨子里对中国和中国人的丑化和歧视,不是一天半天就可以消除的。这里面有太多的因素,决不仅仅是体制问题、人权问题、民主问题。中国只有自己强大了,才会不被人歧视,不被人侮辱。很简单的两件事情或许说明点问题:销售到非洲的武器,中国只是零头,西方人就不饶不依;如果是中国出兵了伊拉克,西方人又会如何?

今天,老卡和老莎这两个人不管是真是假,算是道歉了,比起八国联军时代打了你、抢了你还让你赔款,我们的国家是发展了,进步了,强大了,但是还远远不够,我们还需要不断的努力。从某种意义上说,朴实善良的中国老百姓和古老中国的传承文明与现代文明的结合,不比西方差到那里!

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无忌哥哥 回复 悄悄话 人性本来如此。
linli123456 回复 悄悄话 when my best friend and i were talking about ZD and DL, afterwards she said "that z because u r chinese." first, I was shock that she thinks that way. I have lived in the country for many years, and personally I thought I am chinese *********. however my best friend is local and we r like sister to each other. so when i got this comment, I was shocked and make me realise that even I think i am chinese Au*******, but she still think I am Chinese. I do involve in community and did charity, but so what?

A-guy had a point: involving in the community. it is important to let others not to alien us.
but do not forget our own identity, please.
iceburg 回复 悄悄话 食人间烟火,包括酗酒和吸毒,我生活在一个很富的城市.但是到处是乞丐和无家可归者,有一个通向地铁站的路上,成为酒鬼的公开大厕所,恐怖,还有,我很不喜欢他们对性生活的态度,太随便了,圣经上说的完全没有遵守,还有某些金发蓝眼的人,永远都对你微笑,但和他们打交道时发现他们很虚伪,公开的撒慌,为自己不想做的事编出荒诞的理由,不择手段,对不喜欢的人或意见无情的攻击,但总是一副和蔼可亲的样子,就是用刀捅你时都要面带微笑说,没关系,痛苦是暂时的,等我捅死你就没事啦,很遗憾,这都是我亲身经历...
greentree425 回复 悄悄话 Ignoring this SB is the best response. Anyway, I will not watch any move this ding dong shows up in and any product this ding dong represents.
zhuniang 回复 悄悄话 写得很好,顶!!!
wgp66 回复 悄悄话 回复A-Guy的评论: 脑子进水了吧,大SB。
sun_flower 回复 悄悄话 回复扬子江酒店的评论:Cool!
扬子江酒店 回复 悄悄话 回复A-Guy的评论:
没错,你在中国人眼里是American Chinese,不过在美国人眼里还是Chinese,(就算人家没当面说,不表示他心里不这样想)。
认识第四代ABC呢,他自己都说还是被洋人classified as Asian,一说话,好吧,原来是ABC.如果你不是ABC,我想别人更不会认为你是Amercian.

Identity是改不了的,不管是谁发明的ABC这个词,这都说明了一个人的identity,一个人有identity confusion 是很可怜的,他自己还不知道。

知道第二次世界大战时澳洲政府是怎么对待日本人的吗?不管是不是入了籍的还是永居的日本人,统统都被限制在西悉尼的一个镇上。。。

你自己认为你是什么人不代表别人认为你是什么人。和平时期一般都相安无事,但当遇到国家利益冲突时,由不得你了。很多事不要太天真。
MQL 回复 悄悄话 沙朗斯通, 性感? She is 50 years old, give me a break!!
sun_flower 回复 悄悄话 回复59174U的评论:It is a great story about the INDEED relationship between dog and owner! Hoping silly boy fathoms it as well.Thanks for sharing!
59174U 回复 悄悄话 There was a story about a dog and its owner. Owner trained dog to be loyalty to owner. The dog has no choice to obey owner. Sometimes, the dog got punished by owner if the dog disopeyed his owner's orders. The dog was very upset about this and he dreamt to be the owner and the owner to be a dog so that he can at least be equal to the owner. So, how can it be owner? the dog thought over thought. The dog had an idea. He wore the owner's cloth and pretented to be owner. He felt so good about himself and bark around to tell his owner and other people that he became the owner. The owner and people laughed at dog and told the dog "you are pretty funny, SB 你瞧瞧你那人模狗样,你在装也还是一条狗!!" ....
59174U 回复 悄悄话 There was story about a dog and its owner. Owner trained dog to be loyalty to owner. The dog has no choice to obey owner. Sometimes, the dog got punished by owner if the dog disopeyed his owner's orders. The dog was very upset about this and he dreamt to be the owner and the owner to be a dog so that he can at least be equal to the owner. So, how can it be owner? the dog thought over thought. The dog had an idea. He wore the owner's cloth and pretented to be owner. He felt so good about himself and bark around to tell his owner and other people that he became the owner. The owner and people laughed at dog and told the dog "you are pretty funny, SB 你瞧瞧你那人模狗样,你在装也还是一条狗!!" ....
A-Guy 回复 悄悄话 To sun_flower: is it a personal threat? FYI - Personal threat is federal felony.
sun_flower 回复 悄悄话 "we are proud of being a Chinese" From this sentence, I could figure out you are not American even an ABC cause your English has problem. WE can not be called A Chinese,ok? silly boy, stop pretenting ABC since they wouldn't come to this website. Actully, I know who you are in terms of I got a specail software which is able to view all aliases under your IP address. Wake up again, day dreamer fake American, you are 100% Chinese and your Chinese is better than English, please accept it also all yourself chinese identities as well.
绿豆红茶 回复 悄悄话 回复A-Guy的评论:
You said "As a racial group, we are proud of being a Chinese."
You also said "Without China, I am still myself..."
--I am confused. Where is your pride coming from?

"Strong China or weak China does not make any difference for our family, our kids and our quality of life in America."
-- Does the term "Chinese Exclusion Act" ring a bell? China used to be weak, and Chinese Americans used to be treated like crap.


绿豆红茶 回复 悄悄话 That's a very good article. Thanks for sharing.
One minor mistake, Mr.C made that comment when he was talking about economic issues, not political ones. Specifically,he complained about how products made in China are everywhere in the US market, and how difficult it is for US products to lower their prices. He basically accused China for the bad economy that US is currently going through, and that's why some Americans actually agreed with what he said.
偶然路过的人 回复 悄悄话 回复A-Guy的评论:

您太自私了点吧? 就因为自己在美国, 想倚仗美国过好日子, 就连起码的良心都不顾的帮美国?

终于明白侵略战争和殖民主义是被什么样的人折腾起来的了.
A-Guy 回复 悄悄话 We can argue, but no personal attack, please.

They call us Chinese as a racial group, just like hispanic, black, etc. My neighbor also calls himself a Scotish. Another one is Swedish. It is quite normal. But the common point is we are Americans first, no matter which racial group we are in.

But I don't know who creates the word ABC. If it was created by our Chinese ourselves, it is a big regret. We are discriminating ourselves.

Be a human being first, and we were created equally by God. Then we are Americans, and proudly Chinese Americans.

Only if we act ourselves as Americans can the rest treat us as Americans. We enjoy every right. And more importantly, we need to assume our responsibility as an American citizen.

John Kennedy said - don't ask what America can do for you. Ask what you can do for America.

America is our home now. Our kids, our families will live here for long long time. Our assets (houses etc.) are all here. We defend America because we defend our family, our kids and our assets. Strong China or weak China does not make any difference for our family, our kids and our quality of life in America.

America is our home. Always defend our homes, our families and our kids.

Pay more attention to those topics such as same-sex marriage, Proposition 98, 99 etc. in the Primary Election Tuesday. They are more important to our living. We value family. We value the right of home owner. We value our assets.

Support the marriage of a man and a woman. Support Proposition 98. It will be very beneficial to our kids and future generations. It is much more important than the topic of China, or the torch or the games.

Bottom line - As a racial group, we are proud of being a Chinese. As a land and/or government, China has no impact on our career, our assets, and any of our own interest here. Strong China or not does not make any sense to us.
sun_flower 回复 悄悄话 回复A-Guy的评论:Wake up! Sounds like you've calcuated yourself being one of American,but American never consider you could be one of them even the 3rd generation of Chinese, they still call them Chinese, so don't be silly, boy!
A-Guy 回复 悄悄话 I am tired of such articles. We are Chinese Americans. Our interest is connected to the interest of America, the interest of the town we are living, and the interest of our local community. We need to earn the respect from the majority of other Americans by focusing on the welfare of local communities, school districts and other social topics such as same-sex marriage, Proposition 98 vs 99 etc. Ask yourself how much you have been involved in and contributed to the community? If you don't care your own community, sorry, even I would say you are not qualified to live here. Just go back where you care most. If you don't like here, why are you still staying here?

China is China. I don't see how my success in local community and business is connected to China. Without China, I am still myself, and I am still have my career success and community respect. They see me as a person with responsibility and credibility. They never see me as from China or any other countries.

Torch is just a torch. Torch is never a "Holy Fire". It's the truth. Don't take it so serious or emotional.

We are lucky. We have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and freedom of pursuing our own happiness. I can vote for presidential candidates, governor candidates, and propositions to our own interest.

Let us live well in such a beautiful country, and cherrish all we have owned here. If you don't own something yet, earn it. Americans like heroes who earn everything instead of dreaming of everything.
阿丑 回复 悄悄话 写得太好了
来美国以后,感觉到美国人的客气和礼貌,但是也是感觉到他们的疏远和冷漠以及自以为是,转而成为整个国家的自以为是。

是,他们显得语气礼貌,但是未必内心善良。
wantno3 回复 悄悄话 very good article! Thank you very much!!
未了 回复 悄悄话 其实如果拿来西方主流的报纸就可以看到他们在用辞角度上的偏见。
对总统议员排出来的多是仰视或正视,对敌人排出来多是俯视或侧视,自然而然形成人们心目中的形象。
还有当他们报答他们不喜欢的人的时候就会用上什么"evil","devil"之类的词。看到了好多此金正日,拉登的报道,前面都会出现这些不好的前缀。这样的文章,不用读,因为结论已经在题目中了。看的多了,心目中的devil就是金正日或者是拉登的样子了。估计是考虑到普通市民对复杂政治关系的分析能力有限的缘故。
LEOTHECAT 回复 悄悄话 已阅。

秘书,让温总留意一下。
shavignon 回复 悄悄话 i just feel that westen people get used to speaking whatever without thinking (generally) - they have this kind of liberty. nobody will criticize them for their nonsense sometimes. but in china, we should take so care of what we talk about. if no we will be punished by others.
i donnot want to say that Miss Stone is right, she is incorrect in her behavior. And i think also that we should let other voice appear even they are not correct. just neglect them because they are worthless
tangxiaobaobao 回复 悄悄话 写的太好了,只有中国更加强大了,西方人才会摘掉他们的有色眼镜,,不然中国做任何事情,在他们眼睛里都是错的。
59174U 回复 悄悄话 This is a very good article!! Thank you!!

There are so many westerns who have hollywood pretty faces like Sharon, but actually they have so very shallow and cold-bloody hearts!! On one hand, they blame others for the violation of human rights, On the other hand, they are killing inocent people in common prudence with wearing the coat of demacracy and freedom. How shame they are!!
雅志莫违 回复 悄悄话 说得很好。我感受深的是走近我周围的美国人(同事),常常惊诧于他们骨子里的道德约束力是如此之低。反差大的是,报纸上几乎一有中国的报道,就是贬义。究竟是不是两方面文化的差异造成的呢?他们觉得重要的东西,我们没有,而反之亦然?

对于我们自己的文明,我毫不怀疑它的高超。中国文化中,重情重义透露出来的humanity,在一个非常高的高度。如果国家是由一个个人组成的话,现代化的中国是应该在我们每个人有的、一个自古老文化流传下来的核心外面,进行现代化的。

不过,回过头来再看看我们的核心是什么的话,常常叫我可惜的是,一次次的革命,使得我们和古代的连接越来越遥远。文字上的革命,y已使我们不能轻易地冲破文字的障碍,把我们祖先有的东西看个真切。如果,我们能轻易地回去,会有多少的人真心诚意地留连在我们高超的古代文明中,并继往开来,让曾经高超的东西在现实中绽放出花朵来。如果我们的‘文艺复兴’时代能够到来,那时的中国人会更自信,中国也会更繁荣。
wxcqq 回复 悄悄话 Sorry typo:

SS is a Hollywood C-list actress with IQ equal to Zero. I never think she is a good actress from day one. Now we all know she is not even a decent human being.






wxcqq 回复 悄悄话 SS is a Hollywood C-list actress with 0 IQ. I never think she is a good actree, not we realize she is not even a decent human being.
summer_rose 回复 悄悄话 回复twinmum的评论:As people know, her big breast was a fake one, this was part of reason her ex and exex dumped her without any regrets! Cool! How many natural beauties in Hollywood? Maybe zero is the only answer.
summer_rose 回复 悄悄话 憨哥我看你不但不憨,还篇篇文章透着机灵劲儿!呵呵,好啊!总算看见了篇带劲儿的了,中国人自己不说自己好,有些还天天替鬼子代言,看的我那个提不起来劲儿哟!
祝稳产,高产,早日冲出文学城,走向全世界!
twinmum 回复 悄悄话 Not sure about Caffety, but SS certainly is not intellegent. Big breasts with small brain, typical holywood.
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