我个人认为是有干预的,但和默示时的方式不一样。若能看原文,最好看希伯来文的旧约和希腊文的新约,否则,就看最忠实原本的译本。我个人看NASB.[
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当然有神权干预,也有时干预。何时干预,干预什么,主权完全在神。[
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你听谁说抄写圣经就圣灵充满的?老嘁是不是这方面经验?
另外,圣经是圣灵默示通过人写成,和圣灵充满不是一码事。[
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一个神是真正的作者,二是原本圣经无误。
而本坛的讨论,多集中在一些具体经文和历史遗迹等等,我不认为完全没有意义,但真正很有说服力的又有多少?据我所知,许多认为有矛盾的已经得到合理解释。即使不能解释的还有可能是传抄的错误。怎能一遇到问题,就怀疑到圣经原本的有误上?
其实有一个我认为更重要的问题,老弟没注意到。[
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神默示的结果。再进一步说,没有对神的信靠,不会得出这个结论。若想祥解,我可以把芝加哥决议附上。
我个人认为不会有任何情况会影响这一认知。三一神是教会争论了两千年的事,在这个问题上,我粗算了一下,有十七个重要派别被定为异端。老弟可不要在方面诱我入歧途啊。[
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基本的逻辑推理总要有(拨雾正原集之四)
我也不准备长篇大论,也不想涉及其它,更不是对持这种观点的网友抱有成见,只是就事论事,希望有关网友参考,共同提高本论坛讨论的水准。(括号里的是原网友文,横线部分是讨论重点)
第一点“总说基督徒撒谎”,这个说法似乎很绝对,我记得该位网友是大力提倡相对真理的,怎么忽然就绝对起来。起码有点缺乏一致[
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Withparasite
ThefollowingisapostwithresponsefromtheCARMdiscussionboardonabortionwithapersonnamedChad.TheoriginalpostisinbrownwithCARM'sresponseingreen.
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Jamie:Idon'tthinkmanypeoplewouldrefertotheirpregnancyasaparasite,butitisinfact,scientificallydescriptiveandprovidesabasisforunderstandingthebuilt-intrapsinherentindiscussingthe"righttolife"arguments.
Matt:Inorderforistom...[
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Killingunwantedchildren
ThefollowingisapostwithresponsefromtheCARMdiscussionboardonabortionwithapersonnamedChad.TheoriginalpostisinbrownwithCARM'sresponseingreen.
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Tilk:Mostpro-lifeadvocatesarguethatabortionisthemurderofchildrenbeforetheyareborn.ShouldtherebeANYconsiderationofthequalityoflifeforunwantedchildren.Considerthis.
1)Legalizedabortionleadstofewer"unwanted"...[
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Whatistherealissue?
ThefollowingisapostwithresponsefromtheCARMdiscussionboardonabortionwithapersonnamedChad.TheoriginalpostisinbrownwithCARM'sresponseingreen.
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Chad:Thefollowingstatements:
Theremightbepersonalreasonsawomandoesn'twanttogothroughwithapregnancy,
Awomanhasarighttobodilyintegritywhichisrecognizedasafundamentalright,
Noonecanuseanother'sbodilyresources...[
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TheacornisnotatreeTheproabortionistssometimeusetheanalogyofanacornnotbeingatreeinordertodemonstratethatafetusisnothuman.Theysaythatjustastheacornhasthepotentialitytobeatree,thefetusalsohasthepotentialitytobeahuman;butsincepotentialityisdifferentfromactuality,itfollowsthat,actually,thefetusisnotahuman,andtheacornisnot,actually,atree.
Also,let'sassumeforthemomentthatthetreeinquestionisanoaktreea...[
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