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If you want to slam Nazi Germany for its crime against humanity, be my guest.


If you want to hate Imperial Japan for its vicious crime against Asian people, especially Chinese people, be my guest, and I want to join you.


However, be it the genocide against Native Americans, or supporting Latin America dictators, or supporting Israel’s war in Mid-East, albeit utterly wrong from moral POV, current American people benefited from those crimes.(不知道你在这里到底想暗示什么?罪恶就是罪恶。一方面你承认这些老美曾犯下的罪恶是不道德的,另一方面你又暗示大家现在美国人从这些罪恶中得到了好处。是不是因为你我都从这些罪恶中受益,这些罪恶就比其他的罪恶,比如说中国老祖宗犯下的那些,更应当受到原谅呢?还是你的老毛病:双重标准!) The war against Iraq was started on wrong premise, and resulted in bad consequences. That was a crime backfired, and didn’t benefit American people.


US government, despite its wrongdoings against other people in some countries, they treated their own people well.(Really? 你可能忘了美国警察是怎么拿水龙头对付民权运动人士了!美国政府可以送自己的子弟兵去越南和伊拉克去做无意义的牺牲,成千上万的年轻生命扔在了战场上,这叫一贯对自己人好?! Chinese government OTOH, throughout history, sent their women and goods to others to beg for temporary peace, while suppressing its own people, for temporary benefits of ruling class. Not only was it wrong, but also shameful.(对你来说,几百年前中国统治阶级的和亲政策比几百年前美国人对印第安人的种族灭绝更可耻。对你的道德标准再次表示怀疑!


You don’t want to be the bad guy on the block, but more importantly, you don’t want to be the pushover victim. Playing nice towards others doesn’t necessarily bring you back respect or kindness.(呵呵,这一整个一大段儿听起来都是在给欺负人寻找道德借口。咱道德水平高的不欺负人不成吗?) ONLY if you are able to cause harm to others, and you prove there will be serious repercussions to others for treating you badly, then you will have your peace with others. Small countries can luck out and be left alone, for just being nice. Large countries do not have that luxury. Respect is earned. If you don’t even treat your own people well, nobody will treat you well.


Governments answer to own people, first and for most. It’s not an important role to play as a “nice guy” in the neighborhood, especially when you don’t even have a friend.(什么逻辑?对自己人好和对外人坏有嘛关系?对自己人好就一定需要对外人坏吗?没看出你在这里扯来扯去到底想论证神码?) Victims are to be sympathized, but being victims alone doesn’t automatically make you great people or even nice people. Certainly it’s nothing to be glorified. (again,表面上你在口气上装作不赞成这种做法,但通篇都是在给这种不道德的恃强凌弱找借口。这就是我说的虚伪!


There are no saints and no righteous men. If there are only two kinds of big governments, one is treating its own people well, but sometimes commits crimes against neighbors; another is acting shy and harmless in the neighborhood (while nobody is believing him), but is a true bully at home. If you have a choice between those 2, which government would you prefer? (真是奇怪了。为什么人民非得在两种混蛋政府之间做出选择呢?为什么一个政府不能既对自己人好也对外人不坏呢?杀别人是不是比杀自己人更道德呢?这就是我说的典型的利己式的双重标准和虚伪。)If you choose to embrace the latter one, you might need some professional help.(只有强迫自己必须在两种混蛋政府之间做出选择的人才需要看心理医生!!正常人都知道,在两种混蛋政府模式之外,还有对己对人都好的模式,比如瑞士瑞典挪威等等。强迫自己在两坏之间做出选择是自虐!) However, if you choose the former, while advocating the latter to your relatives and friends, I really have no words for you.

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