Douglas Macgregor : False Flag, Wagner

Douglas Macgregor : False Flag

Douglas Macgregor  June 28, 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZOpubMuGYk&ab_channel=DouglasMacgregor%F0%9F%94%88

hello everyone I am so honored to be joined once again by Colonel Douglas McGregor a decorated combat veteran PhD and author and a military expert who we are so grateful to hear from especially given what happened over the weekend; Colonel McGregor thank you so much for joining me first of all I just want to hear what is your take on the crazy weekend in the supposed coup in Russia?

Well I think the word crazy is a a good adjective to attached to this particular event you know very few of us in the west understand Russia or Russians and as a result we reach all sorts of erroneous conclusions about what is or is not happening; this is one of those events that I'm afraid has to be viewed through a different lens; pregosian is an individual that as you know that is very flamboyant very outspoken he's had lots of opportunities to say good things he's also said some stupid things
and he's been viewed widely inside the senior ranks of the Russian army is a
double-edged sword obviously Wagner has done a brilliant job and Wagner is
viewed inside Russia in much the same way that the French Foreign Legion is viewed inside France
Wagner is not seen as a mercenary organization at all certainly they have foreigners in their ranks and yes they
have convicted criminals that uh on certain conditions were allowed to serve but on the whole they're seen as
fiercely loyal to the Russian State and they are and just like the French Foreign Legion they fight extremely well
and no one in France will ever criticize the French Foreign Legion and I think
you have a similar situation in Russia right now the Wagner group is extraordinarily popular so is pagosia
lots of Russians Look to Him for inspiration he is seen as someone who
wants to wage unrelenting war with the Ukrainian State he wants this manzielinski gone
he and his Fighters are seen as part of this determined Russian effort to
destroy this enemy force in Ukraine so that everything that happens has to be
understood against that backdrome secondly progression of latest had some serious problems with the Russian high
command there are legal issues involved with the Wagner group originally it was designed
exclusively for use overseas and obviously it's being used domestically and over time the military has expressed
interest I'm talking about the very senior ranks particularly the minister of defense and the chief of staff in
Breaking this Wagner organization up which is something that Mr pagosian didn't want to do
secondly Ferguson has been I think unreasonably hostile on occasion towards
the high command on the other hand some of his criticism is widely shared inside
Russia criticism is that he's not only not been adequately supplied which is open to debate
but also that this war is not being prosecuted with the level of ferocity
that it deserves he doesn't even like the use of the words special military operation he wants a declared war he
wants the nation mobilized now Putin knows him and they've known each other for some time I'm reluctant to use the
word quote unquote coup because I don't think burgosian ever set out to displace
Putin I think he was trying to get Putin's attention I think he went too far and you had uh
the potential for real Bloodshed with this small force of three or four thousand that was going to Moscow but I
think the Hope was that he could somehow another reach Putin's ears getting to understand that his senior leaders are
not what they should be whether or not that's true that's a different issue but I think that was pagosian's principal
goal I don't think he saw himself as rising to the top to replace Putin at
all so I think a lot of the Wagner troops that went with him said what we're doing is we're going to rescue this man Putin
from his generals we're going to get him to understand what's really happening now there are others that will dispute that I think mercuris and his friends
who do a wonderful job by the way of reporting don't share that but my sources see things differently and and
so do I now it's all over and and there are a couple of things that are very important to understand
Putin is not strong Russia is not the Soviet Union if anything Putin is much closer to a czar
than he is to anything else and he had the opportunity to arrest brigosian and
the rest of these troops and execute them and he very quickly decided not to do so first of all because of the reasons I
cited at the outset he realizes these men are Russian Patriots they have fought very very hard for Russia
secondly uh he he's not really threatened because he had 30 000 troops in Moscow he's got
control nobody joined this no one was interested in supporting this so he's not really threatened and lukashenko has
known for Goshen for at least 20 years all three men know each other I think lukashago said look it's let me pick
this man up bring him to be La Russia we'll keep him under wraps and Putin decided that he could be lenient I don't
think this reflects his weakness I think it speaks a lot to his strengths so this
is now over the real question is was the message received
does Putin understand that he really does need to shake up the high command does he Now understand that the Russian
people want an end to this war does he understand that the Russian military its
Army sitting in Ukraine wants to attack and end this thing there's something else lurking in the
background that your viewers need to keep in mind that I think was also on pagosian's mind though I can't prove it
has talked of late several times about attacking the zabarisha nuclear power
plant that's a very dangerous thing because it could conceivably radiate and cause
terrible destruction thanks to the radiation if the one of those reactors was destroyed
so lensky has been pushing it budanov who works for him and runs the uh intelligence side of the house in
Ukraine has been actively advocating for it all the time almost from the very
beginning there has been a concern in Moscow about the potential for a quote-unquote dirty bomb
and that this dirty bomb implemented by the ukrainians obviously with this
nuclear power plant could be then presented as a false slack because ultimately people in in Washington the
president people like Graham and Blumenthal just sponsored this legislation which would trigger an
automatic war with Russia under such circumstances I think they there's a fear that this is
quite real and once again that the longer they wait to act decisively the more likely something like this is to
happen and then you really do have a wider War which no one in their right mind wants right now
so I I think all of these things were whirling around in the progosian said I
think they were on the minds of several senior Military Officers so now he's gone he'll go to Villa Russia some of
these soldiers will simply be released they won't go back to fight but the majority of the Wagner group will how
they will be employed where they will be employed I don't know but they're too good to dismiss let's let's face it
so it's over let's see if there's a shake up in the high command let's see how long it takes to unleash this
offensive what do you think about race of events and why has the war
dragged out like this I think two reasons first of all from the very beginning
President Putin was very reluctant to confront the West militarily he still
is and I think he went into Ukraine with unrealistic expectations the wrong
assumptions he thought well you know if I go in I sure am serious but I don't do too much then the West will negotiate
well it took several months for him to figure out no one is not going to negotiate if anything they viewed what he did as evidence for
weakness so he had to essentially call a timeout reorganize reorient and he listened to
the senior leadership that said we don't have enough troops to do what we need to do so now you have almost 750 000 troops
involved and there are talks behind the scenes about continuing the mobilization and adding another three or four hundred
thousand men because increasingly Putin is concluding he's not going to find anyone to talk to
and he will ultimately have to March to the Polish border which is not what he wants to do he's well aware that the
real ukrainians who live west of the river want nothing to do with Russians he's not a fool so I think what you'll
do now is take the rest of eastern Ukraine then he'll move down to Odessa then there will be another pause and I
think he's watching us I mean you talk about the United States someone told me this morning that since we changed the
debt ceiling and we've added 700 billion dollars in debt to our already
staggering the size of our debt trillions of dollars I mean this is crazy I think he looks at that and says
how much longer can this go on he sees Donald Trump he sees JFK or excuse me
RFK Jr they are forcefully opposed to war with Russia as they should be he
looks at Germany which is now in free fall into a terrible economic
recession that could easily become a depression he sees their scientific industrial base collapsing and he says
how much longer can this man Schultz last I don't know what the story is with macron but I don't see him as a
particularly strong figure domestically in France and then of course we had London with Sue neck who's turned out to be pretty
much like his predecessors and I'm not sure the British people really want to go to war with Russia so you put it all
together and I think he says I'm going to press ahead but I'm going to do so deliberately I'm not going to just say
all right tomorrow morning we're marching on you know live off and we'll be in the Polish border in 10 days
that's not his style he's going to do what I said and then I think look for Applause and look for some
sanity in Europe because the Europeans are the only ones that could step in this government that we have is divorced
from reality on every level economically financially politically culturally
strategically militarily I want to talk a little bit more about our country's economics and I'm glad you
brought up the debt turning to this sort of Global Financial system that appears to be crumbling do
you see our national debt as a national security threat oh absolutely there's no question about
that and this is what's really disturbing most of all if you recognize that it's only a matter of
time until your own Financial system falls apart here at home and potentially
that we slide into a very serious recession if not a deep depression which
is by no means out of bounds right now for us you understand that one of the things
that you've got to do if you're going to get your creditors to cooperate with you is demonstrate your willingness to
tighten the purse strings to cut spending to cut back what is this Administration doing
it's almost as though you're on a roller coaster it's no longer connected to the track you're about to go over a giant
hump and nothing is going to save you so you you've got to go back to basics and
understand you know Franklin Roosevelt in 32 and again and 34 effectively defaulted what he did is he said I've
got to restructure the debt well at the time we had huge quantities of gold pouring into us from the Europeans who
owed us from World War one that helped a great deal secondly he had a big scientific industrial base that simply
needed to be restarted we need to get people back into it to work but he also cut spending in a number of
important ways not the least of which was the defense and he understood that you had to do that to get your creditors to support
you why would anybody turn to us and say all right why would Saudi Arabia Japan
China any number of our creditors say well you know these Americans aren't so bad they're really serious they want to
deal with the debt there's no evidence for it what is your take on the implications of the U.S going from the
world's largest creditor Nation to the world's largest debtor nation and the fact that we've been able to sort of
exploit our advantage by being the global Reserve currency and we're seeing Nations start to de-dollarize faster and
faster well as you know the the Nations the bricks I think there's a total of 84
right now interested in working with the Russia China and India to effectively
get out from underneath our financial system remember the problem with our financial system it's not the dollar per
se it's our desire to bully everyone you know we have 34 Nations last time I
looked under some form of financial sanction but this is crazy how can you expect to do business when you're
telling people no we're punishing you for these political reasons we don't like your human rights record we don't
like this or that more important perhaps you're not growing the right crop or the crop we want you to grow all of this is
outrageous nonsense people have had it it's over they put up with this for the first 50 years after the second world
war for obvious reasons they did not want to be dominated by communism they
saw the danger that it represented to themselves so this is over it that no longer justifies this unquestioning
obedience only the Europeans are following us slavishly and I think that's because the globalist elite
doesn't know what else to do and remember what's no one in Washington want to admit I was wrong no one will
step forward and say gosh we made a mistake so it's all going to collapse Natalie it's going to fall apart it will
disintegrate somebody asked me yesterday how far do you think we're going to get uh are we
going to change things with the next election I don't know if we'll make it that far it's hard for me to believe that this
man Biden is going to make it through the rest of the year he's obviously a cardboard cutout other people are
handing him the script to read but he's he's at the end of his tether so what do
you do put Kamala Harris in well good luck with that proposition I don't know of anybody that believes that woman
knows what she's doing so then suddenly you have a power vacuum I think it's going to take something
like this before finally someone says well what do you do right away that's going to improve our position
financially you cut defense spending because you're dismantling the empire
you've got a dismantle Empire that's what the Romans did when they fell apart as you moved from Diocletian to the end
bring the troops back bring them back from England bring them back from gold bring them back from North Africa until
finally they were home and everything changed so I think something like that
is going to happen here Colonel something that's always amazed to me is how far we're able to pick the can down
the road you know the US dollar is still used in about 80 percent of global transactions were so deeply entrenched
in in this financial system that we helped prop up and now it's basically built on a foundation of debt so you
mentioned that you think it's going to crumble pretty soon but how do you actually see it playing out because I think a lot of people would argue that
it's it's probably going to be the U.S dollar dominating for a bit longer as other currencies start to rise including
many of us believe Bitcoin well remember that the bricks and these
other 84 countries are going to join them effectively moving towards a gold-backed currency of some kind or a
basket of currencies I don't know what they'll come up with it takes time to build the institutions like ours now we
can argue that the Swift system is anachronistic needs to be overhauled and changed I I agree but you don't build
something like that overnight and confidence in these countries and the ability to do business with them
legitimately that also has to grow so the dollar is going to persist a bit
longer but as the dollar ceases to be the one and best
alternative that's when Bitcoin steps in because again what's the problem with
the dollar right now the banks people don't want to be under the thumb
of the banks because the banks are controlled by the same globalist Elite that runs the media that gives you the
news that isn't news that creates false narratives that dominates your government
Etc these are the same people that shipped all of our jobs overseas and it de-industrialized America these are the
people that Donald Trump was opposed to and fights against these are the people that RFK Jr talks about that's why
Bitcoin is inevitable in my judgment when how and how much that that's beyond
my level of expertise but I see that it is inevitable what else he what else can
you do and you want to use whatever comes out of the bricks China Russian and India probably not immediately
well right exactly I mean you mentioned even if it's a basket of currencies backed by gold how do you audit the gold
all the gold has been centralized in the vaults of central banks none of these nations trust one another and with
Bitcoin it's this immutable trust Network and and and something that anyone can verify from anywhere so I
think that it'll be interesting to see this play out but I'm kind of curious you know you have so much experience deep within the military sometimes on
this show we talk about the military industrial complex and and how that has eroded some of the the economic value
that that the U.S offers um can you talk to me a little bit about the America that you grew up in can you
describe it versus the America that you see today that kids are growing up in
I grew up in a fairly modest neighborhood lower middle class
neighborhood frankly mostly working-class people in North Philadelphia
most of our neighbors at the time were ukrainians polls uh some lithuanians a
few Irish and Italians thrown into the mix but these people were either first or second generation Americans by the
way they were ferociously patriotic but it was a neighborhood in which you
didn't have to lock your doors uh if you did something wrong when I was
10 years old or something the phone would ring off the hook and people would call my mother
you know this was an America that I think you can see in some of the films of the era but that's vanished it's so
tragic because you didn't have to worry about being assaulted in the middle of the night even in the 1950s early 60s
you could walk from one end of Philadelphia to the other with about an 80 to 90 percent chance of doing so
without being mugged or killed well that that's impossible the neighborhood I grew up in is a war zone it's a tragedy
I go back there and brings tears to my eyes because the even though these were modest places people loved their homes
they took care of things the place was clean everything was well policed it's
all gone it's vanished how do you get it back and I think that brings us to some hard
questions you're not going to get there by throwing money at the people that are
harming your country by throwing money at people on the grounds that they're oppressed minorities in this kind of
business you've got to you've got to step back and say first of all are you an American you are or you are not
there's no halfway house what do Americans stand for they believe in the rule of law first and foremost they
believe in a meritocracy we always know that nothing is a perfect meritocracy but we strive for that goal that's one
of the fundamentals of being an American we also believe in defending our country but we're not very excited about
traveling all over the world to isolated places where we have no real strategic interest we don't understand the people
I mean this is the thing that I encounter all the time I do not perfectly understand the Russians but I
damn well know that the Russians and we are very different and we have to understand that instead
of feeling contempt for people who are different from us it's time to say look we can respect other people's cultures
other way other people's ways of doing business one of our Cardinal principles until Woodrow Wilson came along and I
guess you could blame some of this on Teddy Roosevelt was that we don't interfere in the internal affairs of
other countries we've got to get back to that we have to build Prosperity here at
home stop talking about other people's human rights records let's restore the
law here let's make it safe to walk around Chicago again yeah this this is
nonsense and that may take the application of police and potentially military power in some form at some
point but it's got to happen and I think Americans are coming around to understand that when and why do you
think we lost some of that work ethic that really did make America great I mean this country was founded on the
ideals of self-determination and freedom and people were they had pride in in
pulling themselves up by their bootstraps and working really hard to determine their Destiny they would have
been ashamed to take some of the handouts that people just feel entitled to today how did we get there
somebody said something given has no value in other words if you don't earn it it's
not meaningful My Generation we are the so-called Boomers we walked into Paradise
we lived in a very different environment from those people especially true for the children I would argue of the 60s
they came into a very different setting for the rest of us they did not raise their children with the same set of
values and attitudes that their parents did simply because life was too good it was too easy all you have to do is look
at these outrageous loans to students for what people are increasingly
questioning uh is valuable and that is this four-year college education what
good is a four-year college education if you can't get a job we didn't used to
send everybody to college we thought all work had dignity just because someone was an electrician or a plumber didn't
mean they were less than someone who was an attorney on the contrary if you thought that way you were in trouble in
the America I grew up in you treated everyone with respect that's gone away we have too many people now who are what
I call white-collar frauds they have nothing to offer they can't get a real
job or they're employed in in ridiculous jobs and look at the size of our government how many of the people that we have in
the federal bureaucracy do we really need there I don't think a lot of them are really required in the meantime we have open
borders millions of people we can't vet are coming in they're coming in with questionable credentials in other words
we're not exactly inviting large numbers of people with degrees and in Practical
mathematics science or technology we don't even demand that they speak English we can't
go on like this what do we talk we talk about in in the same breath artificial intelligence I think we exaggerate it
right now but it's very clear that AI is going to change things and a lot of
these people that we're bringing in how are we going to employ them and no one steps forward and says well what about Americans shouldn't we be thinking about
Americans first and if you bring that up the news media crushes you what do you
mean America First well if we're not going to be Americans first and worry about Americans first then why do we
have a country at all and I think that's the real question can we actually keep the country we've got at all it's going
to be tough well a lot of people have really lost faith in their in their representatives do you think that the people leading
this country are malicious or misinformed or a combination
I think it's a combination I think some of them are just corrupt it's very very hard for people to come to Washington
which is a place where we didn't intend to turn out large numbers of billionaires but we do if
you're willing to sign on to bad policies if you're willing to support bad programs whether they're military or
otherwise there's lots of money in it for you I I would argue that we no
longer have anything remotely like a republic or democracy what what we've
got right now I think is a donor dominated government the donors are
determining that we should be fighting Russia in eastern Ukraine it's ridiculous I don't think any American
would vote for it if he understood anything about it well it's easy when you can just print the money right I
mean what's your reaction to all the money that we've been sending to Ukraine just recently apparently there was like
6.2 billion in an accounting error I mean what does this actually mean for the American people because you know
sometimes it's out of sight out of mind I think some people are following this war very closely others feel very
disconnected or they might put a Ukraine flag on their you know Facebook profile but what does this war actually mean why
should westerners care what's happening well the vast majority of Americans don't care they're not interested
they're busy elsewhere I remember when Newt Gingrich LED this Congressional revolt against Bill
Clinton and he effectively shut down the government and the Republicans at the time
mistakenly thought oh this is going to work to our advantage it really didn't and I remember they they interviewed a
gentleman who was on his bicycle with a case of beer strapped to the back in San Francisco and they said sir sir would you talk to
us and he said sure what he said well you know what do you think about this government shutdown
well you know as long as I can get my beer and I can go back and watch you
know TV and do what I need to do I guess it doesn't matter much that's the problem there are too many
people that feel unaffected you still have this problem in many areas just because illegals haven't broken into
your house and taken taken control of it or they haven't pitched a tent on your lawn well you know it doesn't really
affect me this is the problem with a very large country like the United States it can't go on though Natalie now
people have got to wake up and I I really think they'll wake up when the economy tanks completely and the
financial system breaks down I think they'll pay more attention when the banks say I'm sorry we're shutting down
for two weeks how much how long will it take before that happens well you said earlier one of the things
we have to do immediately is cut our spending because we keep spending money that we don't have we keep going further
and further into debt so if you were leading this country and you had executive powers what would you do
well the first thing that you have to do is close that border and I would take all the forces that we have sitting in
Romania and Poland right now and repatriates them to the United States immediately I'd bring the forces back
from Korea there are no imminent dangers to us overseas and the countries that we
have been subsidizing for decades are eminently capable of Defending themselves that's what president Trump
said he's right and I would tell our lies for the moment you need to be your own first responder don't depend on us
to travel six to ten Thousand Miles because right now given new technology we can't get there anyway if we were
fighting the Russians or the Chinese or something they'd interdict it so we can't behave as we did 40 50 60 years
ago so I'd bring them home I'd close that border right away and then I'd say
the next thing we're going to do is restore the rule of law the first step is to tell all the people that are in
the United States illegally you've got 60 days to get out and if you register
you're with us on the way out and you're honest we'll consider you for admission at a later date but right now you've got
to go home and get out of here if you stay beyond the 60-day period well you
could face incarceration or worse and then I would begin looking at these big cities you know I think we'll probably
end up in some kind of conflict with a drug cartel simply because they've penetrated our police departments our
governments they've penetrated all over the United States so if we're going to stop that fentanyl craze along with a
lot of other problems and the human trafficking which is way out of control right now it's going to take harsh
measures those things are going to tie us up for years because we'll never get back to the kind of civil society and
effective society and good economy unless we do those things this is such a polarizing issue I mean
what do you say to people out there who look at this solely from the humanitarian Viewpoint saying that these
people are facing crises and danger they're trying to come to a safe place and and work so what do you say to that
do you just have an issue with the fact that there should be this legal process that people have to wait in line and and
and show you know who they are in order to be able to come here to try to work
first of all tolerating the Intolerable which is what we're we're doing and have been doing for a while is the path to
total Destruction our civilization can't survive it so if we're not willing to defend ourselves
our values our society our people if we're not willing to do those things we
will not survive so that's the first part second part is we should be interested in limited immigration we
should be looking at people with exceptional skills we used to have an exceptional skills act in the United
States we didn't allow for General immigration after 1924 but we recognize that there
were people out there with exceptional skills they needed to be admitted that's how we got Albert Einstein that's how
Vanna Von Brown showed up with his technicians even though people complained about it without him we'd
never had any intercontinental ballistic missiles we would have fallen far behind the Soviets so you need exceptional
people and we can be selective we say listen if you don't already speak English we're past the point now you
know there are more people who speak English in China than there are in the United States
so there's no reason why someone who wants to come here can't learn to speak English we're under no obligation to
take in other people's miseries and problems or make their world their
fights their conflicts their Wars ours the whole purpose of betraying the United States was to get out of that we
need to get back to it you know I find that really interesting um just because when I immigrated to the US when I was
five years old my family brought me here they were trying to escape communism and in Eastern Europe they wanted to come
here for the sense of the American dream the ability to work for Upward social mobility and my parents didn't want me
to speak Polish they wanted me to speak English they were proud that I was going to get to learn English and I have seen
that shift a little bit and I don't you know I I almost wish that I had more of my polish speaking skills but it was
again it was that Pride that we are here we are American and now especially if you live in certain parts of the country
you might not find someone who actually speaks English well look you make an important point
when I was growing up as a child I was fascinated particularly about Eastern Europe it's one of the reasons I ended
up going to Germany's exchange student I went to Brunswick and somebody asked me why did you go
there it was as far east as I could get uh at the time and that was 1969 but I I
was interested in in the very things that you're you're talking about I wanted to learn some Ukrainian and polish you want to learn about these
people the lithuanians the rest of them and you're right uh they the children I was growing I was growing up with most
of them couldn't speak it didn't understand it thought it was rather odd and their parents were amazed at this uh
Quaker from North Philadelphia was interested in them and what they thought in their culture but I'll tell you something else uh in
the 1960s a lot of those young boys that grew up they went to their fathers and
they said look I think this Vietnam war is terrible I'm going to go to Canada and I remember one of them came out to
play his name was we call him stosh who I guess his real name was stanisloff but uh he came out he had a black eye
and we said stash what happened he said well I told my old man I wasn't going to fight and he said America's the
greatest country in the world and you will fight communism and you will defend this country these people were the best
American citizens I've ever seen and you're right we've lost that we need
to get it back well it's just interesting to see how everyone's dividing themselves into teams and I no longer even understand
what makes the liberal what makes a republican because in the past the very
people who would defend freedom of speech and were skeptical of the FBI seem to be
um acting and as if it's the opposite now and I I think that for the average
person even though we're portrayed these Extremes in in media and certainly online through the algorithms I do
believe that most people are good they want to work hard and take care of their families I mean what gives you hope that
the common person the working person can win in a world of so much turmoil
well it's funny you bring up Republicans and Democrats because I fail to see a great deal of difference between most of
them anymore I talk about the UNA party and I'm an advocate for a third party
I think the two institutions have outlived their utility uh we need someone to lead that effort I was hoping
that President Trump would he hasn't we need a different party a party that
is American a party that is unambiguously Nationalist and conservative that believes in the
country that you and I are talking about I think that there's no shortage of Americans who would join that many of
whom call themselves Democrats some of whom call themselves Republicans I think that's needed
but I don't have an easy answer I think though that hard times produce strong
people easy times don't produce much of anything we've had too many easy times
for too long and we haven't produced much all you have to do is look at the American and Military when I go back to
my childhood and remember the people that I grew up with who had fought in Korea the second world war and I look at the people that we have running the show
today I I've discussed it those people were Inspirations these people are depressing they're so busy trying to get
promoted to get into a position in retirement where they can enrich themselves they've they've forgotten the
country completely their this sense of service must return it's it's not there
at the moment I agree with you well where I want to close this out is what what's that saying that we're um
it's a path diverged in the woods we can go in two different directions if we make the right decisions what will
America look like say 10 years from now if we make the wrong decisions or keep going down the path we have been going
on what does America look like in 10 years well if we go the wrong way which is the way we are headed right now I don't
think the United States will be a great power any longer whether or not we hold together is unitary state is another
question I'm someone who believes fiercely in defending every inch of soil that is American I oppose any breakup
under any circumstances but to ensure that doesn't happen we have to reaffirm our national identity
we've been destroying it we need to get out of this business of defaming everything that was us
we need to identify strongly with what we have been in the past if we're going to have a future at all stop apologizing
on the basis of ridiculous assertions made by people who are effectively not
Americans if they are then they certainly hate the country why listen to them we haven't got time for that
nonsense what gives you hope looking at you and people like you
because there are lots of people your age you have a lot of common sense and ability I think they're more out there
than we think and I think we need more Youth and less old men even though that
includes me obviously and people that are that have courage are willing to stand up and say I don't care what you
call me call me whatever you want get the hell out of my way I'm an American I'm going to do what I think is right
for my country that's essentially what we've got to have I I think they're there well thank you so much it's very very
kind of you Colonel McGregor it's always an honor to speak with you thank you so much for sharing your time with us and
we hope to talk to you again soon