川普 vs. 希拉莉 = 三五年的民生 vs.三五十年的民主和民权

不管结果如何，这次大选是美国政党的失败：因为两大党各自推出这么烂的候选人！

既然两个人谁都不会好到哪里去，是不是选谁都一样或者干脆弃权？非也！要比比worst case scenario: 如果Hillary当选，可能会维持现状，民主党那一套，穷人养得更懒… ；可是如果Trump当选，我们最终可能丢掉民权，女权，… 要知道Trump的铁杆粉丝是红脖子白人男性redneck white males，这些人极端保守，崇尚白人至上，好些是kkk成员。是的，Trump可能开始会给你减点税，让你多分一口(原本民主党给非裔西裔的)蛋糕，可是慢慢地你可能会失掉分蛋糕的权利，只因为你的肤色，种族、性别、或者政治信仰。不要以为今天你聪明过人了，混上中产阶级，挤上了红脖子白人公交车就跟着一起哄叫快关门，正是这些你支持过的白人可以叫你让座或者干脆把你踢下车去！你我可能在今后三五年里得到略有改善的民生，但我们的后代可能在今后三五十年经历恶化的民主和民权！不要在口口声声说不忘初心的同时又时时刻刻算计着钱袋子！不但要用你精明的头脑去投票，更要用你的良心和灵魂。

Trump所代表的是极端自私自利，钻系统的空子(屡次破产保护，连年偷避税),他不可能领导人民改善系统。美国国门仍然是最难进的几个，移民并没有像Trump所说的那样失控而需要围墙高筑。红脖子白人大反非法移民，却又懒得从事非法移民所做的工作。事实上很大程度上正是非法移民和前些年廉价的中国造产品维持了这些红脖子白人的体面。这是一大群被现代经济逐渐淘汰的美国人，他们仍希望在工厂里拧扳手或开个小店能保住中产阶级地位，还可以玩枪打猎，殊不知在全球经济体制下这已是历史！

扪心自问：你真的喜欢拥护Trump吗？一个口无遮拦(的确很率直)凌辱女性被一群红脖子白人拥戴的疯子？充其量他是一个运气好的投机分子，一个赌徒，赌房地产靠破产保护他几次起死回生，赌reality show他赚了眼球和免费publicity，这次是他毕生的最后一赌！
所以，选Hillary大不了忍4年，选Trump你最后可能在美国死无葬身之地，这些你紧跟其后的红脖子白人上台之后哪一天会回过头来：滚回你的出生地！

但不管结果如何，这次大选依然是民主、民权的胜利：因为不论肤色、种族、性别、信仰，你我尚且还有权利自由地投票来表达意愿！也许我们在自掘坟墓慢慢丧失这个权利！不能见小利忘大义！更不能自掘坟墓！

[WeThePeople]

回复 'villa1912' 的评论 : We are in a democracy, not a mob society/Culture Revolution. Bring your points on. Focus on the message, not the messenger.

[WeThePeople]

沈兄，你的假设是制度不变，川普身后的白人至上主义者大军会同意吗？今天你是他的同盟军可以坐一条凳子，想想明天他们上台之后吧？也许他们会拿黑人先开刀，但殃及池鱼。想想看不太久以前，我们连投票权都不会有，谈何政策？我不太在乎川普的人品，但恐惧他身后的白人至上主义者大军！谢谢你的讨论。

[沈成涵]

@WeThePeople

----不认为选了川普美国会乱，美国有良好的体制，是制度治国，而不是人治，所以不会乱。关起门来搞好自己的经济才是重点，经济好了，什么问题都能解决。拳头收回来是为了更有力的打出去。此时的美国选择川普，正符合一张一弛的客观规律。

[沈成涵]

万得福 发表评论于 2016-11-07 05:41:59虽然希拉里说谎、卖官、违法、作伪证、销毁证据、卖国...但川普十年前私下跟人吹嘘过玩弄女性啊！！！

----大家都不是完美的候选人！但是川普的问题是个人的私德；希拉里的错误是公职期间的职务犯罪。没有可比性！

[villa1912]

who is this wethepeople person? He/she behave like a philibuster. It does not mean you are correct if you talk more.????

[WeThePeople]

By now the election should be over as everyone should have made their mind.

Thank you all for stopping by. I started my very 1st blog since my comments on other people's blogs were mostly deleted - that tells who has more supporters on WXC :) But I swear I did not delete a single comment here! And I do appreciate both sides of opinions and most importantly the participation of fellow Chinese in this election which we may remember for life. We shall honor whatever the outcome this may bring!

Btw I can't (or very slow ^^) type in Chinese on PC. And the iPhone App does not seem to allow me to respond. So I responded in English on PC even though Chinese would still be more precise as our native language :)

May Gob Bless all!

[WeThePeople]

回复 '大号蚂蚁' 的评论 : Unfortunately it is a difficult choice between revolution and reform. China has gone through revolutions for thousands of 'glorious' years vs. Western civilization went through party rotation since French Revolution(?). It is irresponsible to smash the current system without a decent replacement. That is what US did in mid-eastern countries in recent years by overthrowing governments they don't like but who to suffer?

[大号蚂蚁]

党的错误就是不可取代。呵呵。

[WeThePeople]

回复 '沈成涵' 的评论 : I fully understand the anti-establishment sentiment as I share that view often too. But what to replace? Who will become the most miserable victims in a chaotic society with no government/everyone wave fists/guns? it will be us, the minorities in US. So I am selfish in that sense. Make no mistake - capitalism does recognize/allow selfishness (vs. communism). But that is individual's right. No governments would/should promote the selfishness. Any governments would have to play some leveling playground role to govern. As I mentioned earlier, we would have to go to a Safari to enjoy absolute individualism/selfishness :)

[WeThePeople]

回复 'jndydkt' 的评论 : I am sorry you are upsetting. The only regret is that I should not have quoted on Trump's gross words on treating women. I saw just the opposite that Trump followers threw trash talks/threatening remarks as one of the reviewers early had to praise the courage for posting my views here :) I am no fan of HC. To me, HC is a bad choice but Trump is a dangerous choice for non-whites. It's philosophical difference (that I see) than tactical/policy difference (that you try to seek).

[WeThePeople]

回复 'Berrylover' 的评论 : Any civilized society has some kind of level-playground policies unless we move to a Safari :) It is an integral part of civilization to differentiate human from animals. Do you really want to go back to the old American society of segregation? That's what white supremacists want. Back in days, did we all have have the same chance to go into Peking U/Tshinghua U than people in Beijing and currently? By the way, the gold will shine no matter where it is placed.

[WeThePeople]

回复 'nasastar' 的评论 : Unfortunately they are all we have on the ballot :)

[大海大洋]

分析有理，值得深思。

[nasastar]

我们要真普选，不要两个烂番薯中挑个好点的。

[Berrylover]

为我们华裔子女能获得公平上大学的权利，坚决不选民主党。

[万得福]

虽然希拉里说谎、卖官、违法、作伪证、销毁证据、卖国...但川普十年前私下跟人吹嘘过玩弄女性啊！！！

[Tiger666]

小儿科的东西！不值一驳！

[降魔]

在以索罗斯为核心，以希拉里为代表的，以克林顿基金会为主的邪恶势力们，

其无数反对者，不断被自杀后……

FBI不得不选择，

妥协于美国政治的黑暗！

自称“FBI”的用户预言大部分成真 震惊的背脊发凉！(图/视频)

http://www.wenxuecity.com/news/2016/10/29/5725152.html

[LA1991]

Great article, someone who has a brain.

[青海]

在接到传票之后，把相关证据都销毁了，已经构成犯罪，若是一般人，不可能不被逮捕，而希拉里就可以置于法律之上。那些包庇、保护希拉里的人，也构成了犯罪。

一个罪犯，没有被投入监狱，却要当总统，已经是对这个民主制度的极大羞辱。

美国已经堕落了，昨天奥巴马公然在电视上号召非法移民出来投票，今天FBI局长科米急急忙忙宣布维持原来的结论，可以想象，他必定是在巨大压力下做出这个宣布的。

[沈成涵]

每个社会都有一张用不成文的规则织成的网，比如政治是如何运作的、公众如何建立共识，特朗普打乱了这个规则。如果特朗普获胜，共和党和民主党都必须回到起点，反思自己。这或许会带来一些不同。所以特朗普是“绝望中的希望”，虽然特朗普的言论比较偏激，但他上台后绝不会让美国走上独裁之路。而希拉里拉拢各派，建立了一个根本不可能存在的“联盟”，她是真正的顽固分子、冷战分子，她才是真正的危险。

[沈成涵]

自私不是崇高的理念，但还是比“不患寡而患不均”这种平均主义来的安全。希拉里的政治正确完全就是美式毛主义！希拉里拉着黑人、西裔、穆斯林大吃美国大锅饭，这才是真正在掘美国的根基。

[沈成涵]

自私不是崇高的理念，但还是比“不患寡而患不均”这种平均主义来的安全。希拉里的政治正确完全就是美式毛主义！希拉里拉着黑人、西裔、穆斯林大吃美国大锅饭，这才是真正在掘美国的根基。

[villa1912]

要说人品，喜姐的flaw更是多了去了。在这里就不陈叙了。但从政策理念上来讲，Trump还是顺民意的。

[jndydkt]

"希粉们除了无知无畏，还有不少是满嘴喷粪文革式流氓，只要别人观点看法不一，就开骂，有些完全是顺我者昌，逆我者亡的架势，还有一些就是外国势力没投票权的，也夹在一起为希拉里鼓噪摇旗呐喊，如她当选，真的难以想像美国会变成什么样子"。太有同感，真是人以群分！

[WeThePeople]

回复 'villa1912' 的评论 : have you seen the video Trump talking about groping women/grabbing women on their genitals and kissing (against their will)? Is that decent? Would you send your daughter or sister to work for Trump by his side? I do sympathize those redneck whites who lost jobs/their dignity in global economy. Government should help/they should catch up. And I understand they put blames on government and new immigrants, part of rural redneck american's tradition. But we can't handle the power to those.

[WeThePeople]

回复 'lanlandehu' 的评论 : seems you are suffering typical Chinese 'conspiracy' syndome :) Even IF Hillary had committed a crime on email server, was it a premeditated crime on purpose or was it merely careless mistake? Don't just use mouth to gossip, use brain to think :)

[villa1912]

Trump是个生意人，也是见过世面的，不会像你说得这么不堪吧。那些生活在中下层的白人在全球化的影响下生活大不如以前。心情是可以理解的。正是他们的基督治国精神才包容了世界各地的移民。

再说我不认为Congress会对象AA，男女同厕有多大的帮助。这可是影响我们子孙几代的大事。

[lanlandehu]

韩国的总统朴槿惠闺蜜事件引发韩国人民要求朴槿惠下台。韩国的检察院已经逮捕了朴槿惠闺蜜崔顺实。向韩国的检察官致敬。希拉里在FBI发传票后果然删除3万多份邮件，砸毁所有的电子设备。希拉里的行为已经是违法。可是她大摇大摆地还在一个号称世界最民主自由，司法最公正的灯塔国竞选总统，这是多大的讽刺。美国的司法机关已经沦为黑金政治的工具。America is sick !

[WeThePeople]

回复 'villa1912' 的评论 : Don't forget about the Congress! It would not confirm any extremely out of touch liberal nominees. We also don't want to see diehard conservative judges as well. Clinton may continue on some bad policies of Democrats vs. Trump/redneck whites may revert the entire modern-day civiliazation - civil liberty/civil rights(Minority rights), women's right.

[villa1912]

OMG! On the contrary. 如果亲民主党的大法官被选上，那才是几十年的影响。

[WeThePeople]

回复 'vesper' 的评论 : Democracy/civil liberty IS NOT All as you wish. The ordeal we are in is exactly part of democracy/civil liberty. Under dictatorship/authoritarian as Trump admired of Putin/Hitler, certain ethnic groups such as Chinese Americans might have been completely prohibited from participating as century ago!

[君雪]

赞、赞、赞。道理简单得很。

[vesper]

"三五十年的民主和民权"
O8医保有你的民主民权吗？奥巴马厕所令你的民主民权在那呢?一旦巫婆上台任命几个左派大法官，你就等着被合法的宰割吧。

[爱吃海蛎煎]

赞

[GS224]

支持楼主的观点。川普搞的是种族主义，3K党喜欢的东西。 在这样的统治下，肤色决定一切。白人至上，什么也别说了， 华人这张脸就输了。

[WeThePeople]

回复 'Staytrues' 的评论 : Exactly. I hoped Trump played the craziness to win the primary in the party and would show decent human decency/somewhat presidential in the general election. But turned out he is the same exact mad man - a postal child for redneck white males.

[Staytrues]

我也不喜欢民主党的很多主张像AA，男人女人可同厕等。但是川普上台，我们华人的人生安全可要成问题了。红脖子是不管你华人是川粉还是希饭，都是夺他们饭碗的人，都该死。

[senway]

支持一个罪犯还要说得这么高大上。

[tmasquerade]

明智

[bhxxhd]

其实道理就这么简单，支持！

[童谣]

非常同意。值得深思。

[pcboy888]

赞楼主勇气，敢在文学城发帖说川普坏话！

[yamiao]

点100个赞！咱不能因为一小撮人集体抽风就忘了自己从哪里来，族群的利益到底在哪里。

[人間的盒子]

回复 'weibao' 的评论 : 懒得看他们，爱谁当谁当。

[weibao]

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人間的盒子 发表评论于 2016-11-06 14:04:15

但很多人是对现状不满，在中国对中国不满，到美国对美国也不满，走到哪吵到哪。

[文取心]

如果你认为希拉里这条蛀虫当政比较好，这条蛀虫就永远会盘踞在你脑子里。

[人間的盒子]

我同意希拉里上台完全可以象以前一样，她都在政坛三十年了，白宫也呆过，再当四年总统又何妨。

但很多人是对现状不满，在中国对中国不满，到美国对美国也不满，走到哪吵到哪。