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给美国华人选民的一封公开信(2)

(2008-10-28 08:20:54) 下一个



最近几天,美国主流媒体的一些有良知的新闻人,也对媒体对奥巴马的献媚表示担心。ABC资深记者MICHAEL S. MALONE 说,媒体的这种偏袒让他作为一个新闻工作者感到可耻。媒体是在同宪法,职业道德,和读者玩火。

早年从中国大陆出来的人,都知道在国内每天早上听中央台新闻,上班看“人民日报”,晚上看中央电视台的新闻联播。 在“人民日报”,“光明日报”,“解放军报”,“红旗”杂志,和“文汇报”等报上发表的社论或是特约评论员文章,是每天要看要学习和讨论的话题。 当时人们的思想和意识,对事物的看法和判断,基本上是同这些官方媒体所表达的是一致的。这叫统一思想和认识。

现在觉得很可笑,别笑的太早。这个现象正在美国发生,你每天打开电视看NBC,CBS,ABC,CNN,MSNBC,读“纽约时报”,“洛杉矶时报”,“华盛顿邮报”,甚至看中文台,上中文网,你所接触到和感受到的都是奥巴马是美国的未来,是中产阶级的大救星,是改变美国的救世主。民调已都支持奥巴马,麦肯是挡在通往美国美好明天的绊脚石。共和党是富人党,民主党是为劳苦大众谋福利的政党。

你没看见那些为奥巴马唱赞歌的孩子们有多天真烂漫吗? 你没看见那些为奥巴马跳忠字舞的有多神圣吗?你没看见那些美国年轻人对奥巴马那种狂热的崇拜吗?你没看见有多少人觉得能见到奥巴马同能见到上帝一样令人热血沸腾吗?

毫无疑问,奥巴马在改写美国的历史,将改变美国的政治。在美国历史上还没有一个人有他这么有煽动性和激发人们对政治的兴趣。奥巴马的竞选将列入美国的政治和历史的教科书。

是什么样的力量,让一个不见经传的年轻参议员击败理所当然会得到提名的希拉莉,很有希望击败麦肯成为下一届美国总统。

支持奥巴马的黑人精神领袖们认为奥巴马是救世主,有神的力量在保佑他。支持奥巴马的白人认为奥巴马是民心所向。支持奥巴马的华人你是怎么想的?

我在网上和网下同不少华人同胞接触,华人支持奥巴马的主要原因, 基本上都是媒体和奥巴马阵营给灌输的垃圾:

1。布什把美国搞的一团糟,麦肯是布什,不能选麦肯。
2。共和党是富人党,民主党是少数民族党,不能选共和党。
3。麦肯年纪太大了,佩林没资格当副总统。

更多的华人选民以前是支持希拉莉的,现在转向支持麦肯。对此,我做了个调查。 在华人圈子里,支持奥巴马的没我想象的那么多,也没什么极大的热情。当我同他们谈了我的想法后,很多人同意我的观点,有的人转而支持麦肯了。

这个现象令人鼓舞。

现在的民主党早变味了,一些极端左派分子已经劫持了民主党,自由主义已经不再是以前的自由主义了。

这也是为什么当希拉莉纳降于奥巴马以后,有很多希拉莉支持者并没有跟随她去支持奥巴马,而是转向麦肯的主要原因之一。 

其中最著名的算是PUMA(PARTY UNITY MY ASS)组织。

当政客们握手言和的时候,选民们知道他们的利益被出卖了。选民们没有跟着政客走,而是走向独立,这些选民是有主见的选民。

但你们听到媒体报道你们了吗? 没有!

而就是你们,将决定谁是美国下一任总统!

套用老毛的一句名言:希望寄托在你们身上!

 

题外话:

本人不属于任何党派,不受任何人指使,不拿任何人资助,也不接受任何人身攻击。                                               

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cuteyeve 回复 悄悄话 我当然有看全部的interview. 这是transcript. 自己看看她都在说什么
Couric: You've cited Alaska's proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?
Sarah Palin: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and, on our other side, the land-boundary that we have with Canada. It's funny that a comment like that was kinda made to … I don't know, you know … reporters.
Couric: Have you ever been involved in any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?
Palin: We have trade missions back and forth, we do. It's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia. As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there, they are right next to our state.
如果她像你说的,“没有说服过任何人,也没有在执政中涉及过此议题‘ 那这段采访中所说她认为roe v wade 应该从联邦法中去除由各州来单独立法呢?
Couric Why, in your view, is Roe v. Wade a bad decision?

Sarah Palin: I think it should be a states' issue not a federal government-mandated, mandating yes or no on such an important issue. I'm, in that sense, a federalist, where I believe that states should have more say in the laws of their lands and individual areas. Now, foundationally, also, though, it's no secret that I'm pro-life that I believe in a culture of life is very important for this country. Personally that's what I would like to see, um, further embraced by America.

花枝俏 回复 悄悄话 这次美国大选中媒体对奥巴马的偏袒, 确实是太明显了, 所以那些 poll 可信度极低. 为什么媒体会这样呢? 因为那些媒体的大老板大多是犹太人, 犹太人因为宗教的原因不被共和党接受, 所以他们都是民主党, 这就是为什么有钱的好莱坞(好莱坞的大老板大多也是犹太人) 和华尔街也支持奥巴马.
我倒是感觉麦肯还是能赢, 美国白人有些事情只做不说.
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复儿子他爹的评论:

my point is: Palin has more executive experience than Obama, Biden, and McCain combined. She may not sound like a layer or insider of Washington, buy she is not dummy as the media and democrat want you to think.

Do you know anyone else who will tell you what he or she really think about the issue?

Everyone is telling you what you want to hear. If you like what you hear, keep you eyes on your poket. All smooth talkers want your money and make you feel good at the same time.

Will America be better off with people like Sarah Palin in Washington? 100% yes!

儿子他爹 回复 悄悄话 回noso:
"how much budget and how many people does Palin manage?"

how many people - 少于63万。
how much budget - 不知道。可以google。 但是不会多,凭common sense。也许你知道,那就告诉我。可是 What is you point?
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复儿子他爹的评论:


how much budget and how many people does Palin manage?
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复wxcdave的评论:


Let me ask you a question:

All terrorists have endorsed Obama, will that make Obama a terrorist?
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复儿子他爹的评论:

好,这么说吧。

你是老板,要招人当经理。来了两个人应聘。一个年纪大了些,但很有经验,处理过很多危机。一个大学刚毕业,很年轻,很有活力。

你问他们,怎么当这个经理。 老人说,看好你的钱,做好你要我做的事。年轻人说,你知道你公司的问题是什么吗?

你一愣,哦,请指教。

他说,你要完了你知道吗?

你吓一跳,那怎么办?

他说,要变革。

你一听,很好啊,怎么变?

他说,把你的钱给员工分分,他们日子好了,你的日子才能好。

你说,怎么分?谁多谁少?

他说,交给我办。

你说,交给你,那你以前有类似成功的经验吗?

他说,以前别人都错了,我这种方法有效。

你问,哦,你成功过吗?

他说,有你和配合能成,YES WE CAN。

你当时很激动,觉得遇到高人了。 这个年纪大的老了些,年轻的好象有能力。

回头一想,不对,你凭什么说我的生意要完了,有什么资格说你就能成功?

你把老人找来问,你不觉得我要完了吗?

老人说,不会,你的根基很好。 只是前任花钱大手大脚的老喜欢干大事。

你说,那你怎么办?

老人说,开源节流,上马未上马的项目一律暂停开销,咱们看看那些是浪费的项目,能不上就不上。

你说,哦,那钱怎么来。

老人说,你有很多外购,能自己解决的还是自己解决。把钱用在刀刃上,多生产自己的产品。

你说,不分给员工什么钱?

老人说,现在没钱,先不分了,等生意好了以后再说。 你的生意好了,员工的工作才能稳定。 你都干不下去了,他们只能失业了。

你说, 你觉得那个年轻人怎么样?

老人说,我以前也很自负。但实践告诉我,谁都能说,不是谁都能说到做到的。 我和他之间的选谁要看你觉得谁靠得住。

你说,你有什么缺点?

老人说,不会忽悠,说话有时不讨人喜欢,但我实话实说。

你又把年轻人找来再面试。

你说,你真的能有本事做这个工作?

他说,你跟着我,无事不能。

你说,怎么跟着你?

他说,把钱交给我,出任何事情你都要跟我站在一起。 YES WE CAN。明天更美好!

。。。。。。


我要是这个老板,我就雇那个老人,把这个信口开河的年轻人给轰出去。
儿子他爹 回复 悄悄话 回noso,
突然好奇心起,google 了一下 Alaska 和 Hawaii 的人口。

Alaska:62万6千9百32人;
Hawaii:1百28万5千4百98人;
U.S.A.:2亿9千9百万人。
wxcdave 回复 悄悄话 请问楼主为什么三K党是共和党的坚定支持者? 还有,我所知道的“RED NECK” 们都是共和党的坚定支持者, 请告诉我为什么要让那些华人移民投票给共和党?

毛主席教导我们说 “凡是敌人反对的,我们就要拥护。凡是敌人拥护的,我们就要反对”
儿子他爹 回复 悄悄话 回noso:
"如果你不在竞争激烈的几个州,如OH, FL, PA, CO,VA,你这一票给谁基本上不起什么作用。"

很不幸,我就在这几个州之一。

我本就没有想“起什么作用”,你没看我是为儿子才去投票吗?

但是我也可以投老迈一票,如果你能以common sense 的语言说服我的话。你以上的信让我看到的只是激情。

当然我也可以投小奥,或废票。
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复91468的评论:


Exactly, she is a Governor of State of Alaska for God sake. Show some respect at least.
91468 回复 悄悄话 一位阿拉斯加的民主党人这样讲过,她会选奥巴马,但她也认为媒体对佩林不公。在阿拉斯加,佩林不分党派,佩林会反对共和党如果共和党错了,就这一点,我认为佩林是能做事的政治新星, 她不是政客。
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复91468的评论:


very good points, thanks.
91468 回复 悄悄话 住在一个离俄罗斯比较近的州不等于有足够的外交经验,如果你听了全部采访,就知道那只是佩林说的一句话。何况邻边国家如果不是朋友,不在意才不可理解呢。当年毛泽东把大批知识青年放在边境“屯垦戍边“就是一重要指导思想。
佩林反复说堕胎是个人选泽。至于她对堕胎有自己的看法,她没有说服过任何人,也没有在执政中涉及过此议题,一些人深仇大恨从何而来呢!
在美国要抽人,后果不妙吧。
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复儿子他爹的评论:

如果你不在竞争激烈的几个州,如OH, FL, PA, CO,VA,你这一票给谁基本上不起什么作用。

Wait for my Part 3, I am not done yet. : )
儿子他爹 回复 悄悄话 我还没决定投不投票,投的话,投谁的票。不过我儿子吵着要跟我去投票(他的social study 作业),看来我还是要去投。但是投谁涅?

我一直没有花功夫研究过两造的政策,不大感兴趣。可是当我听到老迈选了佩林当副手,我就对老迈的判断力失去了信心。

老迈老了,佩林在必要时接过总统的担子是一个非常现实的可能性。可是她ready了吗?我的判断是坚定的No! 我不用知道别的,就一个词:经历。好,再加一句话,哪里的经历?我一年都听不到几次阿拉斯加的新闻。它有一百万人口吗?它有夏威夷人口多吗?我不知道。但我把它们相提并论。(By the way, 我也不认为小奥的经历够格)。

佩林声称她完全够格当总统让我恶心。她打心里真的认为她够格吗???

关键不是佩林,是老迈的判断力。判断力比目前的政策重要。四年会发生很多事,目前的政策可能很多不着边际。想想8年前,小戈和小布大侃怎么花财政盈余,转眼盈余连个影子都没有。

当然,我也没有看出小奥有好的判断力。

就你的信:

1)我不知道媒体为什么要偏小奥。我的老美老板曾经告诉我,媒体是听老板的,别的是瞎扯。可是媒体老板不是有钱人吗?有钱人不是Pro共和党的比较多吗?不解。

2)“1。布什把美国搞的一团糟,麦肯是布什,不能选麦肯。” 你也没有证明这话不对。

布什不是一个人撑了美国的天,是有一帮子人,一帮子共和党人在帮他出主意,管这一大滩子。我可不认为他能不走共和党的路子,一手遮天。

好,问题来了,共和党有俩条根本不同的路子吗???我不知道,你也没证明有。过去8年确实不怎么样。你同意吗?

哎,看来我是倾向投小奥的票了嘿!且慢!我到目前为止,看到的分析都是说我可以剪更多的税,如果我投老迈的话!

投谁?看不看钱包投票?noso 你再掰一掰?
cuteyeve 回复 悄悄话 回复ddren的评论:
right on! you truly understand the urge I have for slapping at certain ones sometime. Let me complete my list:

If some say people who believe in religion are all brain washed and should go f**k themselves, I ll slap u. If some say people don't believe in religion have no soul and deserve to die, I ll slap you. If some say all blacks are criminals, I ll slap you. If some say all Muslims are terrorists, I ll slap you. If some say all Irish or Jews are sneaky, cheap bastards and should be wiped out from earth, I ll slap you. If some say, I have to give birth from rape or incest, I ll slap you. If some say, children will be watching pornos ,parents will be marring their kids once Obama is the president(thaz all over the Evangelical websites), I ll slap you.


ddren 回复 悄悄话 回复noso的评论:
人家cuteyeve说佩琳是女人的败类是因为她反对堕胎即使是在被强奸的情况下。如果今天某个人强奸了我媳妇,还跟我说她应该把孩子生下来,我觉得这个人不仅是女人的败类,更是全人类的败类。没有最起码的良知,没有同情心。回去看cuteyeve的原文,她说如果你说所有的黑人都是靠政府救济的懒汉,她会抽你。我很欣赏她的nature passion. 这是一个有正义感的女人。你说把她的帖子留在这里,让大家看看支持obama的人都是什么素质,从她身上我看到的是一个人起码的良知,正义,爱心。反种族歧视就是正义。我对大部分黑人也没有什么好感,但是我明白不是所有的黑人都是恶棍。
to cuteyeve: you rock~~~~
cuteyeve 回复 悄悄话 一个女人觉得种族仇恨者就是找抽,有什么可怕的?
cuteyeve 回复 悄悄话 noso: 不管谁,只要说今天的经济危机都是黑人造成的,所有的黑人都是懒汉强奸犯抢劫犯,所有的穆斯林都是恐怖分子,拉丁裔都是黑帮成员等等等等,我就抽他!种族歧视仇恨者就是找抽!我说的有错吗?????????????????????????????如果你是种族仇恨者的话,你当然觉得我太疯狂,但如果你不是的话,你当然觉得这种人就是找抽!
91468 回复 悄悄话 回复cuteyeve的评论:
你说:她(Palin)是我们女人的败类!给我们女人丢脸!!
看来你是女人,可你又在其他评论中说:不要跟我说所有的黑人都是,我抽你! 这话不像一个女人说的。
如果你真是一个女人,够可怕的。


noso 回复 悄悄话 Notorious Obamedia Moments of 2008

Michelle Malkin
Wednesday, October 29, 2008

To paraphrase Queen Elizabeth II, 2008 is not a year on which honest journalists shall look back with undiluted pleasure. This has turned out to be even more of an annus horribilis than 2004, when Dan Rather's fake Bush/National Guard memo fiasco redefined the "BS" in CBS News. There were so many mainstream journalists swimming in the Democratic tank this year, the nation's newsrooms looked more like overcrowded aquariums at PetSmart.

In less than a week, the campaign season will be over. But the Obamedia's most shameful biases and notorious blunders shall not be forgotten. Here are my Top Five, by no means comprehensive and in no particular order:

1. The Los Angeles Times and the suppressed Obama/Jew-bash videotape.

In April, L.A. Times reporter Peter Wallsten reported on a 2003 farewell party for Rashid Khalidi, a radical Palestinian Liberation Organization spokesman/adviser turned Ivy League professor. The anti-Israel Arab American Action Network sponsored the gala. In attendance: good neighbors Barack Obama and Weather Underground terrorist duo Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn.

Wallsten reported that the "event was videotaped, and a copy of the tape was obtained by The Times." But the news organization refuses to let readers watch the video of Obama and his left-wing terrorist friends and will not release the tape. It's "old news" now.

The paper had no problem, however, embedding a video clip of Sarah Palin's 1984 swimsuit pageant on its gossip blog and deeming it newsworthy.

2. Ogling Obama.

In May, CNN posted "breaking news video" of female journalists on Obama's press plane fawning over the Democratic presidential candidate as he talked on his cell phone. The caption listed on the network's website: "Obama in jeans: Sen. Barack Obama surprises the press corps by wearing jeans."

In the clip, several members of the press corps yell at a Secret Service agent to "sit down" because she's obstructing the view of their beloved Obama. They giggle and sigh as Obama straddles over a row of seats and they furiously click away on their cameras. "You're killing us," one of them says breathlessly.

No, you're killing yourselves.

Runners-up for Most Drool-Covered Groupies: The journalist who squealed "He touched me!" at the UNITY minority journalists' convention in July; the MSNBC producer who broke down and shed tears of joy upon learning that The One had clinched the Democratic presidential nomination; MSNBC host Chris Matthews, who proclaimed that he "felt a thrill up his leg" after an Obama speech in February; Oprah Winfrey, who confessed she did a "happy dance" for Obama; and the writer for the German publication Bild, who worked out with Obama at the Ritz-Carlton in Berlin and reported: "I put my arm around his hip -- wow, he didn't even sweat! WHAT A MAN!"

3. The Atlantic Monthly's deranged photographer.

Publisher David Bradley's once-esteemed magazine hired celebrity lens-woman Jill Greenberg to snap portraits of John McCain. Greenberg, an outspoken left-winger who goaded children into crying on film and captioned the images with anti-Bush slogans, sabotaged the photo shoot and gloated about it on a photo industry website.

After tricking McCain into standing over a strobe light to create ugly shadows on his face, she then posted vandalized versions of the imagery on her personal website with crude, vulgar labels. One featured McCain with fangs and blood dripping from his mouth -- with the Greenberg-added words, "I am a bloodthirsty warmongerer (sic)." Another piece of her "art" showed an ape (a favorite Greenberg subject) defecating on McCain's head. The highly respected editors at Atlantic professed shock despite Greenberg's notoriety. The name of her blog: "Manipulator."

4. The quote doctors and math-manglers at CNN.

In a botched attack on Sarah Palin, CNN reporter Drew Griffin cited National Review writer Byron York allegedly questioning Palin's abilities and character: "The National Review had a story saying that, you know, I can't tell if Sarah Palin is incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt, or all of the above." York, however, was characterizing the press coverage of Palin.

In a botched tally, CNN anchor Soledad O'Brien proclaimed that an audience poll showed "overwhelming" preference for Joe Biden after the vice presidential debate. A freeze frame of the show of hands, however, showed the audience split. The mathematically challenged O'Brien also claimed that Palin slashed Alaska's special needs budget by 62 percent (which she recycled from the liberal Daily Kos blog), despite the fact that the governor increased special needs funding by 12 percent. Facts, schmacts.

5. Us Magazine publisher Jann Wenner's Obama apparatchiks.

The gossip mag's partisan slime job on Palin and her family ("Babies, lies, and scandal") last September opened the floodgates of Palin-bashing across the mainstream media and was the nadir of the year. Wenner -- a prominent Obama backer who ran countless hagiographies of him in sister publication Rolling Stone and featured the Obamas with the slavering headline "Why Barack Loves Her" on Us Magazine's June cover -- had his media flack e-mail the anti-Palin hit piece to all media in St. Paul for the Republican National Convention: "Might be useful as an illustration of how the news is playing out," the flack wrote.

Indeed, the side-by-side covers of the Palin smears and the Obamas' deification perfectly illustrate the year in Obamedia.
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复cuteyeve的评论:


把你的帖子留在这里,让别人看看投奥巴马的个别人都是什么素质。
cuteyeve 回复 悄悄话 回复noso的评论:
看来你就是那些每年收入在10万到15万之间或者更少的却支持 McCain的。。。我还以为你多有钱呢?哦。。。

告诉你我对Palin 就是有深仇大恨,别让我看到这个女人,看到她就是两个中指!她是我们女人的败类!给我们女人丢脸!!
cuteyeve 回复 悄悄话 noso: 你是中文不好啊还是理解能力差啊????我说的是有钱人支持共和党很正常,但是那些家庭年收入在10万左右的还因为税款的问题支持McCain,脑子才进水!你说我狂妄可以,你不要用我来攻击所有的obama 支持者!

告诉你我为什么认为支持Palin的人都是脑子进水!Palin这个女人在被强奸下仍然反对堕胎,认为全球变暖不是人类造成,相信世界末日。疯狂的宗教狂爱信什么信什么,我没意见,但是这帮人用自己狭隘的心胸和世界观对别人的选择和权利指手画脚就不行!!!!!!!!她自己因为住在一个离俄罗斯比较近的州就有足够的外交经验?一个明显不了解基本国家政策的
palin还有这么多铁杆支持,不是因为她的知识经验水平,是因为Palin的无知让他们自我感觉良好,是因为她是一个坚决的极端的原教徒!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!凡是坚决反对堕胎的人(无论什么原因)等哪天有人把你或者你女儿强奸并且怀孕了,我看看你是不是还反对堕胎!如果你自己被轮奸了还想把孩子生下来,那是你自己的选择,不要强加给别人!
gq 回复 悄悄话 非常好文!支持!!

不选奥巴马的十大理由
完整视屏:
http://www.youpai.org/blog.php?id=3332

不选奥巴马的十大理由--第十条:判断是非的能力

不选奥巴马的十大理由--第九条:媒体伪造的产物

不选奥巴马的十大理由--第八条:不可靠的副总统候选人

不选奥巴马的十大理由--第七条:前后矛盾,反复变化

不选奥巴马的十大理由--第六条:极左理念

不选奥巴马的十大理由--第五条:民主党一党当政同时掌控国会

不选奥巴马的十大理由--第四条:鼓吹种族分裂

不选奥巴马的十大理由--第三条:高税收;高政府开支

不选奥巴马的十大理由--第二条:危险的外交政策

不选奥巴马的十大理由--第一条:经验严重不足


noso 回复 悄悄话 我为啥不选奥巴马? 辛评2008-10-23 14:26:41

传统上,台湾来的中国人(或台湾人)支持共和党,大陆来的中国人(或大陆人)投民主党的票。这是理念使然,据说共和党是有钱人的党,要搞资本主义;民主党向着穷人,要走社会主义道路。上两次大选,我就是投票给高尔和克里,我讨厌共和党人假冒伪善。当我这次决定投麦肯一票后,许多朋友不以为然,认为我背叛了,嫌贫爱富,想傍大款,冒充富人。这都是误会,虽然我不见得能说清楚。 不容否认,奥巴马的确年轻,算得上漂亮,还很会讲话。尤其是当他和麦肯站在一起辨论,麦肯不仅年老,长得不讨人喜欢,说话也结结巴巴的。爱美之心,人皆有之,年轻人、妇女喜欢奥巴马,也就没有什么奇怪了。但任何事情都有它的两方面,有一利必有一弊,套用大陆已经用滥了的一个术语,叫一分为二。年轻,经验就缺乏。有经验了,也就老了。漂亮,确实招人爱欢。但漂亮的,绣花枕头者居多,鲜有漂亮且有兼智慧的。谁不爱听好话?会讲话绝对是个强项。既就是假话、空话,人们也爱听,认为这是善意的谎言,是有异像、有远见(vision)。我大概是年龄大了,对年轻、漂亮有了不同的认识;对会讲好听话的有了戒备,反倒觉得年老、有点丑、不善言辞的麦肯让我放心。 奥巴马提出的立即从伊拉克撤军、改革、均贫富,听起来不错,细想就有问题了。 从伊拉克撤军,这是迟早的事,但怎么撤就有问题了。继续打下去,不得人心,这么大的开销,美国再富也撑不了多久。撤军有两种模式,一种是南韩模式:大部撤出,留一小部分威慑,使对方不敢轻举妄动;另一种是南越模式:全部撤出,让北越吞并南越。从历史和现实看,南韩模式既符合美国国家利益,也有助于地区稳定。无条件撤军或人为地订下撤军时间表,无异于自取其辱,南越很快覆亡就是前车之鉴。 改革也是势在必行,共和党上台这八年,完全背离了共和党的理念:财政平衡,小政府,已经和民主党没有本质差别了。唯一不同的是把钱钱在什么地方,花给谁,难怪共和党人及其传统的支持者也都对共和党不满。但谁能改、怎么改还是个问题。奥巴马在芝加哥政坛、华盛顿圈子混了也不是一天两天了,他都改过什么?好像没听说过。明眼人都知道,美国当下的根本问题是大企业和院外活动集团在左右政府运作。目前,美国最需要的是敢于对大的利益集团说不的政治家,而不是只会说好听话的政客。听说,奥巴马竞选花的钱是历史上最多的,哪里来的钱?还不是大的利益集团捐的?吃人家的口软,拿人家的手软,让奥巴马改革不是与虎谋皮吗? 均贫富,无论从人道上还是从社会安定上讲,都是应该的。一味偏向利益集团,损害的当然是中产阶级和穷人的利益。但怎么帮穷人也有很大的学问,发钱当然最容易,且立马见效,却不长久。长远的办法是发展经济,让穷人有工作;发展教育,让穷人有好的工作。外国人(印度人,中国人,墨西哥人)能到美国找到工作,找到好工作,为什么生长在美国、享有各种政府帮助、保护、扶持的美国人反倒成了穷人,这说明了什么?这恰恰说明发钱、保护根本不能结决穷人的问题,只能使他们更穷,更依赖政府。奥巴马的发钱政策也许会为他赢得选民、赢得大选,对美国经济却未必是福,这决非危言耸听。 其实,我开始属意的是民主党的希拉莉和共和党的哈克比,初选时,我是将票投给了哈克比。希拉莉和哈克比运气不佳,都没出线。在观看了几次辩论和看了有关的材料之后,我决定支持不那么讨人喜欢的麦肯。相对而言,我更信得过麦肯。我的一票不会有什么作用,但我该尽自己的义务,也不用违心地去投一个自己信不过的奥巴马。



noso 回复 悄悄话 回复探索真理的评论:

next time, try not even reat it. goodbye!
noso 回复 悄悄话 谁创造了奥巴马奇迹?


来源: 辛评 于 08-10-29 06:56:38

奥巴马从一个闻所未闻的议员,一跃而成为一个美国主要政党的总统侯选人,甚至可能问鼎总统宝座,不能不说是一个人间奇迹。

奥巴马是怎么崛起的?

奥巴马自己说是圆了美国梦。

如果真是这样,也太神了点,这梦还真像是个梦。说穿了,除了年轻、形象好、能说会道,钱才是那只看不见的手。

奥巴马的钱好像是永远花不完似的,希拉莉不行(据说克林顿会募款),麦肯更不行(虽说共和党代表富人)。

奥巴马的钱是从哪里来的,恐怕只有奥巴马和捐钱给他的人知道了。肯定不是穷人,穷人还等着奥巴马通过征税把钱从富人手里抢过来分给他们呢。有了钱,奥巴马可以大作广告,天天作,时时作,哪个媒体敢得罪财神爷?谁不看电视、上网、看报纸、听光播?不怕你不信。

有了钱,奥巴马可以让ACORN花钱雇人投票。有了钱,奥巴马可以雇用“自愿者”拉选票。140美元一桶的石油天价,虽然让大的石油公司捞了一把,更让阿拉伯的产油国富得流油。他们富了,用油的都穷了,所有的人都穷了,这才是世界金融风暴的起源。

布什政府顶多是推波助澜,大的石油公司和产油国才是背后真正的推手和赢家。人穷了怎么过日子?奥巴马说,这都是布什政府的罪过(布什怎么把经济搞糟的,没人知道,也没人关心),选我奥巴马,我给你们发钱。中国共产党说得好,人活在世上,生存权是首要的,那是基本人权。

马斯洛的需求层次理论不也是在讲人对生理的需求(食物、水、空气和住房等)、安全的需求(人身安全、生活稳定)是最基本的吗?对不信神的人来说,肚子也真是最根本的。人穷极了,有奶便是娘,能不选奥巴马吗?至于奥巴马的花言巧语是望梅止渴还是饮鸠止渴,那是没人知道,更没人关心的。

如果奥巴马真的当上总统,那将是民主的悲哀(选举只是彰显了民主的局限而已:谁有钱谁当选),也是美国的劫数(该走下坡路了,美国只能在极右的布什和极左的奥巴马之间折腾)。

noso 回复 悄悄话 回复cuteyeve的评论:

支持奥巴马的都很狂妄,动不动就说不支持他的人不是傻就是脑子进水了。骂起佩林来深仇大恨。

很可笑。
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复bornin1968的评论:


还用装什么,全文学城都知道我是麦肯和佩林的强有力支持者。

你说的观点等我在第三部分给你逐一解套。 Read what I have written, you may learn something here. : )
bornin1968 回复 悄悄话 尽管作者一再想撇清自己,几番表示自己是中立的,可是,看看文章你就知道了,对共和党的支持,对那个缺大脑的佩林的支持,也看见了作者的分析能力。

你想对华裔选民说什么呢?税收都用到了养懒人身上,你太缺乏对福利社会的理解了。社会福利不仅仅是对无家可归的人,单亲妈妈和没有工作的人的照顾 -- 说实话,他们用不了几个钱,从伊拉克提早一个月撤军,够养活他们好几年的了。

税收的大部分(绝大部分)用来改善教育和实现全民医疗保险--这才是最花钱的,也是奥巴马获得支持的原因。作为美国的一分子,你和你的后代也可以,并这是你的权力去享受这些。

提到税收,布什让每一个美国人都负债,出兵伊拉克,都用的是你的纳税人的钱?你是愿意用钱去打仗,“在伊拉克再呆100年(老迈语),肥了那些美国最富有的石油军火商,而普通百姓只有冒失去孩子的危险,被削减教育和福利,替布什还天文数字的债,还是,换个理念不一样的政府试试看。

还有一点,候选人代表自己的政党。脱离政党,用个人背景作判断是不明智的。奥巴马代表的正是希拉利克林顿的政党。按照作者的说法,希拉里的支持者,转而支持风马牛不相及的老迈。。。是你糊涂,还是那些人糊涂。

我最不喜欢的是布什-老迈的外交政策。老买一看就是个战争狂,自己在越战时被人家俘虏,遭到虐待--现在居然投票支持虐待战俘--他的小肚鸡肠,睚眦必报可见一斑。布什把美国带到了崩溃的边缘,现在再来个人和他差不多。。。谁会希望美国人这么傻呢???
cuteyeve 回复 悄悄话 One way to ‘see’ the distribution of wealth in the U.S. is to imagine a group of 100 people who have a $100 between them. Evenly distributed each would have one dollar of wealth.
如果你想知道美国的财产分布,好好看看这个表。按比例美国全部人口为100,全部财产为100,仔细研究一下:

50 individuals at the bottom have a nickel. ($0.05 times 50 = $2.50)社会最底层的50%平均每个人只有5分

The next 40 each have $0.70 of wealth (40 times $0.70 - $28.00).
中间的40%平均每个人有7毛

The next 9 each have $4.00 of wealth (nine times $4.00 = $36.00)
中上的9%平均每个人有4块

The last richest individual has $33.40 (one time $33.40). 最有钱的一个人,注意只是一个人,也就是1%,却拥有33.40

这是2006美国做的国家财产调查,自己google一下 US Wealth Distribution,看看我有没有蒙你!!!!!!
cuteyeve 回复 悄悄话 本人也不喜欢好吃懒做的人。但是不工作完全靠政府救济的人在美国有多少?每年花纳税人多少钱?不要跟我说所有的黑人都是,我抽你!就算他们都是也不过占美国人口的12%。 美国最富的5%有几个不是靠投机,欺骗,垄断来获取暴力的?他们每年拿走老百姓多少钱?前者和后者哪个拿的多?我就不明白为什么有些人如此憎恨穷人懒汉,却对公开抢劫的人没有任何意见。这两种人我都有意见,只不过对后者的要多的多。

如果你们家庭收入在25万以上,你不愿意每年多交1000税款而不支持obama,我可以理解。我认为愿意帮助别人是情分,但是保护自己财产也是本分。我们没有必要去谴责那些不愿意多出一毛的人,毕竟不能拿自己的高尚风格去要求每一个人。但是那些每年收入在10万到15万之间的或者更少的却支持 McCain的,我就不明白了,你们是脑子进水了还是休克了?你们是不是还做着平生有机会成为亿万富翁的美梦???自己好好想一想,在未来的20年里哪个机会比较大,拥有1亿美金,还是丢了工作要靠政府救济一段时间直到你重新找到工作?除了现在已经拥有2000万美金以上的人有可能成为前者,其他的人别做梦了。。。。。。。

说Obama是社会主义,你们连什么是社会主义都没有搞懂。社会主义是認為生產資源應該由社會或政府所控制。Obama有说这么做吗?他说的spread the wealth是指在过去8年里,美国95%的人收入的增长比例远远小于通货膨胀物价的增长,所以收入在10万左右的人生活越来越拮据,而这主要是由于金融机构的风险投机和战争造成的。所以国家现在的根本任务是要帮助这些人度过难关。有错吗?你现在也许并不是这其中的一员,但是如果有一天你不幸成为了,你希望一个总统给你减税多还是给亿万富翁多?

我对支持McCain的人没有意见,站在自己的利益上看问题很正常。但是坚决支持Palin的人就是,特大号的!

我欣赏Obama, 不支持McCain,Palin让我恶心,但是用种族,宗教,个人喜好,家庭等等去攻击别人,就不行!!!!!!不管是我喜欢还是讨厌的人,都不行!!!!
紫萸香慢 回复 悄悄话 回复bluecurrent的评论:
"他都70 多岁了也不缺钱,可 他为什么要竞选总统? "

Simple: Power, power, power!

Why did Chairman Mao start the Culture Revolutionary while he had already had the highest power? The absolute power.

No one is "美国真正的救星, 他是自由,正义和公正的化身". Mccain is not, Obama is not either. A democracy country only has leaders, good or bad, but no leader should be put into the seat of a savior. Obama does inspire a lot of people and he has shown his great leadership and organization ability during the year-long process. By making big mistakes on selecting the running mate and commenting on economy, Mccain has provoked all critics about his judgements.
jwayne_1 回复 悄悄话 i thought obama would lose but i may very well be wrong. what a lovely mistake :)

us is already adopting socialism, at the moment the stupid $700B bill passed.
胡涣 回复 悄悄话 回复可亲可近的评论:
好吧。那我把“错误”改为“不够明智”,够温柔了吗? :))
可亲可近 回复 悄悄话 回复可亲可近的评论:。“华人选共和党是错误的”这个论点本身就是幼稚 偏剖的。华人=大陆人。台湾人。香港人。东南亚华人。越柬老缅华人。韩国华人。。。。。各人的背景不同
政治见解南辕北辙是正常的。你可以说服别人 但不可以说别人的选择是错误的。我是一希饭 但是当我仔细研究了08的政治记录和他的政纲后 觉得08是不符合我的理念的后选人 相反的老麦有一些值得我考录的地方。当道不同不象谋的时候 学会遵重别人 这才是真正的“beauty of the america"。

另外 很多当处选bush的人现在后悔莫及. 只有better one没有best one
胡涣 回复 悄悄话 如果麦肯和佩林都没拿这事大造舆论,那就说明这些说法的价值是很低的。

麦肯也曾经与不少背景可疑的人打交道。只不过因为他的能力就已经是够大的批判靶子了,所以民主党懒得拿这些来说事。

我们的根本不同是:你信奉个人自由,我信奉互相关爱。这正是美国两党观念的差异所在。有不同是好事。有竞争才有活力。

但是,对于华裔族群来说,又多了另外一个考虑,那就是作为少数族裔的利益。这就是我写那篇文章的动机。
bluecurrent 回复 悄悄话
全力支持楼主的观点!

非常高兴看到楼主的文章能够再次让广大的文学城读者看到, 并能引起大家的理性思考.

我在这里只想说一点, 麦凯恩作为一个曾经出生入死战场的老兵, 自己的孩子还在前线, 他都70 多岁了也不缺钱,可 他为什么要竞选总统? 他不是在为自己私利考虑, 他是在拯救美国, 他才是美国真正的救星, 他是自由,正义和公正的化身.

希望华人朋友们擦亮眼睛, 认清奥巴马掩藏非常深的真实面目, 不要煤体左右你的投票权.你们的未来在你们的手中!
可亲可近 回复 悄悄话 回复胡涣的评论:完全不同意你的意见。“华人选共和党是错误的”这个论点本身就是幼稚 偏剖的。华人=大陆人。台湾人。香港人。东南亚华人。越柬老缅华人。韩国华人。。。。。各人的背景不同
政治见解南辕北辙是正常的。你可以说服别人 但不可以说别人的选择是错误的。我是一希饭 但是当我仔细研究了08的政治计
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复胡涣的评论:

tell me why LA Times is protecting Obama:

LA Times Refuses to Release Tape of Obama Praising Controversial Activist
Video of farewell party for alleged PLO worker shows Obama toasting 'friend and dinner companion' with questionable past.

Rashid Khalidi, a professor and activist tied to the PLO, was feted by Barack Obama at a farewell dinner for the Palestinian activist. (AP photo)

The Los Angeles Times is refusing to release a videotape that it says shows Barack Obama praising a Chicago professor who was an alleged mouthpiece for the Palestine Liberation Organization while it was a designated terrorist group in the 1970s and '80s.

According an LA Times article written by Peter Wallsten in April, Obama was a "friend and frequent dinner companion" of Rashid Khalidi, who from 1976 to1982 was reportedly a director of the official Palestinian press agency, WAFA, which was operating in exile from Beirut with the PLO.

Click here to read the original LA Times story: 'Palestinians See a Friend in Barack Obama.'

In the article -- based on the videotape obtained by the Times -- Wallsten said Obama addressed an audience during a 2003 farewell dinner for Khalidi, who was Obama's colleague at the University of Chicago, before his departure for Columbia University in New York. Obama said his many talks with Khalidi and his wife Mona stood as "consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases."

Khalidi is currently the Edward Said professor of Arab Studies at Columbia. A pro-Palestinian activist, he has been a fierce critic of American foreign policy and of Israel, which he has accused of establishing an "apartheid system" of government. The PLO advocate helped facilitate negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians in the early '90s, but he has denied he was ever an employee of the group, contradicting accounts in the New York Times and Washington Times.

The LA Times told FOXNews.com that it won't reveal how it obtained the tape of Khalidi's farewell party, nor will the newspaper release it. Spokeswoman Nancy Sullivan said the paper is not interested in revisiting the story. "As far as we're concerned, the story speaks for itself," she said.

The newspaper reported Tuesday evening in a story on its Web site that the tape was from a confidential source.

"The Los Angeles Times did not publish the videotape because it was provided to us by a confidential source who did so on the condition that we not release it," the Times' editor, Russ Stanton, said. "The Times keeps its promises to sources."

In recent months Obama has distanced himself from the man the Times says he once called a friend. "He is not one of my advisers. He's not one of my foreign policy people," Obama said at a campaign event in May. "He is a respected scholar, although he vehemently disagrees with a lot of Israel's policy."

But on the tape, according to the Times, Obama said in his toast that he hoped his relationship with Khalidi would continue even after the professor left Chicago. "It's for that reason that I'm hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation -- a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid's dinner table ... [but around] this entire world."

A number of Web sites have accused the Times of purposely suppressing the tape of the event -- which former Weather Underground terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn reportedly attended.

Sullivan said she would not give details of what else may be on the tape, adding that anyone interested in the video should read the newspaper's report, which was its final account.

"This is a story that we reported on six months ago, so any suggestion that we're suppressing the tape is absurd -- we're the ones that brought the existence of the tape to light," Sullivan said.

The Los Angeles Times endorsed Obama for president on October 19.
胡涣 回复 悄悄话 我完全不同意你的意见。华人选共和党是错误的。请见拙文

http://blog.wenxuecity.com/blogview.php?date=200809&postID=12598

但我尊重美国式的民主,所以也尊重你的意见。有一点我同意你,就是华人应该多关心一下美国政治、美国社会。关心多了、思考多了,自然会对自己的选择有更准确的判断。
noso 回复 悄悄话 如果是我, 决不会选O8 zt


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原来打了很长的一篇文章, 误按了一个键就全没了. 只能简单地谈谈了. 原因有三:

1, 个性问题, 喜怒不形于色. 这样的人城府很深, 而且当政的历史不长,无法判断他的具体政治取向.但是有一点可以确定, 他不喜欢现在美国的政治格局,是很不喜欢,但是他想采取什么措施来改变? 没有人知道.

2, 心胸狭隘, 或者可以说是固执已见. 这从他不用希拉利作副手可以看出. 你可以说这是他不喜欢让难支配的实力政客进入他的班子, 但我会认为这说明他很不喜欢自已的政治主张受到那怕一点儿中和.有人可以说如果迫于压力就选一个自已不喜欢的人,这会变得太容易改变立场. 但是我会认为一个政治家本来就是应该随时修改自已的政策来应对实际的需要.太固执已见的人,也许不是政客,却可能会是极端主义者.

3, 他上台,基本上美国很可能会输掉两场战争. 现在伊国的游击战已被压制到了原来高峰期的三四成. 阿富汗的塔利班实力则不算太强,顶多就是二三万人,而且武器不强,到现在为止都只打死了二三百名美军. 也就是说,只要美国愿意,这两场战争失败的可能性不大.但是以他的说法,如果巴基斯坦解决不了内部的极端主义包庇塔利班的行为,他就出兵巴国. 这根本是难以想象的事. 因为你一边为了伊国的那点游击力量就想撤离, 另一边却吹要进军巴国,很明显就是吹牛. 巴国的军力和战争潜力就是比起90年时第一次波斯湾战争的伊拉克都要强上好几倍.光是一亿人口的战争潜力,和到处都是的宗教学校,还有民间的自造武器能力,这就是打游击战的良好基础. 可见他只不过是口头说说, 以近期不可能实现的打巴来掩饰他上任后从伊国撤军的意图. 事实上,如果按他的主张,阿富汗也是不可能打胜的. 这样一来,美国必然会出现国内政治严重分裂的局面.

输掉战争都还是其次. 据报道, 他在竞选中指责卖很恩"想彻底消灭北朝鲜",消灭北朝鲜又怎么了? 你为什么这般关心? 似乎他关心北朝鲜还关心多于美军. 对于这么一个政治人物, 人们就可想而知他的政策大方向会是怎么样的了.

现在人们讨论O8和卖很恩, 似乎老是集中在加减税上面, 好象加减税几百几千就是实行了什么制度. 依我看, 这都是很次要的问题. 关键在于O8一旦实行激进的对外对内政策,美国内部的其他政治势力都不会甘心就此罢休. 肯定会造成整个社会的分裂和对抗.

金融危机只是小事,美国经历的经济危机多了, 采取各种经济手段, 渡过危机也只不过是时间问题. 但是O8一旦当选, 如果一意孤行地推行他的政治意图,这才是最要命的.如果人们期待的是一场轰轰烈烈的革命,那么您还可以选他.但是如果您要的只是一场变革,希望您们等到再过十年后,他的政治主张已经能从他的政治生涯中得以完整的反映后再作决定.

有报纸说, O8有成为伟大总统的潜质, 我对这种论调是很反感的, 因为是否伟大应该在执政结束后以至于结束一段时间后再由人们作决定, 而不是仅靠一场选举活动就认为某人已有可能成为伟大总统.

选黑人当上总统,以减少种族主义, 这种思路是对的. 但是,也要选黑人中比较有包容心而非是激进主张的一个. 从现在的种种情况来看,我只是看到O8与极端思想有种种联系,看不到他包容的一面. 大家也好,O8自已也好, 应该给他更长时间的政坛磨练, 过早的成为总统, 对所有人都不会是个好
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复可亲可近的评论:

"我们也许今天没有25万的收入 但是明天, 我们的儿子, 孙子,需要得是一个良性的上进环境。" well said. If I want socialism, I would not have come here. For our next generation, we must say no to Obama.
可亲可近 回复 悄悄话 基本同意你的观点。媒体的献媚和偏激和中国有的一拼。当然华人的地域,政治,和经济背景不同 观点也不同 这是可以理解的。我们也许今天没有25万的收入 但是明天, 我们的儿子, 孙子,需要得是一个良性的上进环境。周末在中文学校听到一sat班的高中生的牢骚:why should i go to ivy league and be a doctor 0b doesn't honor thoes efforts.在场的家长谈了很久,大多数认为奥的政纲不利于我们的下一代。
奥要取消高中的PA科程 gpa不须超过4。00 我们孩子学业上的竟争
优势被“wipe out" 生存空间会很恶劣。
奥的“打土豪 分田地”在中国已经臭名昭诸 难道我们还要经历一次吗?
noso 回复 悄悄话 what did I say? I told you so:


JUST WORDS: Obama's Ever-Changing Definition Of Rich

ARLINGTON, VA -- Today, in Pennsylvania, John McCain highlighted the fact that throughout this campaign, Barack Obama's "definition of rich has a way of creeping down." From $250,000 to now $150,000.

Obama has made a lot of promises. First he said people making less than 250,000 dollars would benefit from his plan, then this weekend he announced in an ad that if you're a family making less than 200,000 dollars you'll benefit -- but yesterday, right here in Pennsylvania, Senator Biden said tax relief should only go to "middle class people -- people making under 150,000 dollars a year." It's interesting how their definition of rich has a way of creeping down. At this rate, it won't be long before Senator Obama is right back to his vote that Americans making just 42,000 dollars a year should get a tax increase. We can't let that happen.
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复Lyra的评论:


Agree!

As I said, when someone applies a job with no experience but says he can do more the job offers, he is full of hot air.

Lyra 回复 悄悄话 I don't like Obama because he always says he wants to change the United State and change the world. The United State needs to be changed, that's okay, but why he needs to change the world? The whole world is running okay, no need for US to change it.
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复ncpga的评论:


You know, if he did not fraud the vote in primary, it will be Hillary against McCain, and Hillary may just win the election. Looking back, now I think I would be OK with her than a socialist Obama.
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复人类拯救计划的评论:


look, if you can publish that book, and have many followers like Obama does, then you will be rich. Obama made $4.2 mil in 07, most of his money came from the book selling.

In the real world, you need money. : )
ncpga 回复 悄悄话 After I heard the stories that the dirty deals between some big Democrats to kill Hillary's campaign, I don't trust D any more. 希拉莉支持者并没有跟随她去支持奥巴马,而是转向麦肯 - that is me.
人类拯救计划 回复 悄悄话 回复noso的评论:
"to pay tax and you are going to die one day"
good point. I remember this:
"in America 两个东西, 税和死亡不可避免"

Then America should create Tax, otherwise it would die.

I will publish my books and tell the truth from heaven and create taxes. I do not know if America sentences me and let me die. Is it legal to tell the truth from heaven which may be different from public view??
This is my sole concern!!

I would appreciate it if you could give me further advice on this since you have more knowledge on American law.


noso 回复 悄悄话 回复人类拯救计划的评论:

let me tell you something:

The real deal is you are going to pay tax and you are going to die one day.

Everything else is not real.

When you can support yourself in real life, then the world is wild open to you. : )
人类拯救计划 回复 悄悄话 回复noso的
Thanks.

The physics community is not real as you can see in my book. That is why it is hard to get a job from physics academia.

I try to find a job in real world. I am afread the real world is not real either!
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复秦垣川的评论: haha, peace.
秦垣川 回复 悄悄话 回复noso的评论:

No personal attack there! I was kidding. Your personal details page says that you are 12.

noso 回复 悄悄话 回复人类拯救计划的评论:


Get real, get a job. : )
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复秦垣川的评论:

typical personal attack from lefewingers, I really don't care what you think about me, because I am not running for President and I don't belong to any party.

If you think watching Foxnews make me a 12 years old, then you have not born yet. : )
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复thelost的评论:

First of all, that artical is written by someone else. Second of all, if you think others people is yours, then you are a socialist, period.

noso 回复 悄悄话 回复modems的评论:

I am a "youpai" if you really want to label me.
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复秋天的红叶的评论:

Great points, I agree with you.

Like many people here, I came from China with my bare hands. Now I can give job opportunities to my fellow Americans. Under Obama's administration, I am better off retire. But money is not the most important issue in my life, I have enough.

The issue is the ideology of socialim is poison to this great country and to our next generation. When people think it is their "right" to take other's hard earned money, when the government tells us how much is rich and how much is too much, then who wants to be rich and who wants to work hard at all? The ideology of socialism will kill this country's prosperity and make it a third world country. That's only money side problem, the moral side will go down the drain when people think others' money is their.

Go check a website: www.youpai.org, you will find many people agree with you there.
秦垣川 回复 悄悄话 you missed at least three
other reasons why I will not vote for JM:

1) He is too hawkish. He will start more wars than Bush.He was willing advocating for the Iraq war and he will likely venture into other areas of the world.

2)He is a hot head and has a short temper

3) The worst: He picked Palin

I am not surprised by your postings, since you are a FOX watcher (or you are only 12).
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复我最无聊的评论:

"OBAMA牛到现在,掀起了一股个人魅力的风潮,但这是选总统,不太相信一个偶像派能把国家治理好。"

well said. : )
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复爱一的评论:

Then you should vote for Obama. : )
人类拯救计划 回复 悄悄话 我也谈点政治。各位可能已经是公民。当然为自己的家和小孩着想。天经地义!!!


我的看法是,谁当总统也不能保证美国继续单极称王。过去有资源和高科技引领。现在已达到饱和!!!物理学已达极点(生活技术帮助方面),而生物学如克隆人,没有一丝商业价值!!

而且,美国的高中生学中国的小学课程,大学生学中国的高中课程,就象中国的文化大革命一模一样!!!知识上不可能总是指望移民(今年有五万中国人回国);产品不可能总是指望中国制造;骗钱(华尔街)已经行不通了!!!!

一言之,谁当总统也不能保证美国继续单极称王。我害怕的只有一点:战争,战争!!!
thelost 回复 悄悄话 忍不住了,老是空头乱讲,没有实际的东西。

建议大家看看另一篇博文,再做抉择,由“78级兴趣”写的“您选谁? 奥巴马vs.马凯恩”:
http://blog.wenxuecity.com/blogview.php?date=200810&postID=37419

还有,此三点不无道理,起码不是垃圾:
1。布什把美国搞的一团糟,麦肯是布什,不能选麦肯。
2。共和党是富人党,民主党是少数民族党,不能选共和党。
3。麦肯年纪太大了,佩林没资格当副总统。

再有,多数富人的巨额资产和收入,不是平等努力来的,是掠夺或投机来的。


modems 回复 悄悄话 Are you white? I have no doubt what you say if you are. These propaganda and brain wash are alike what FOX News does for red necks.
秋天的红叶 回复 悄悄话 I like your article. Thanks!

I came from China, a socialist country. Look what that did to the Chinese economy in the old days. What B.O. (Obama) talks about scares me, I will share a few thoughts with you:

1). B.O want to give rich people's money to the poor.
There is a reason the poor become poor. Have you seen any Chinese beggers on the street? Or Asian beggers for that matter? We work hard, we give our kids the best education we can afford once we make money. What is the motivation? You can be what you want to be if you work hard and have an education in this country. What B.O. does is to take away that motivation. If you know your hard earned money is going to somebody who does not work, will you still work hard? If everybody think so, that can not be good for this country in the long run.

2). B.O. promised lot of things. Money for lots of programs. One of thre programs we all know is the minority program in academic institutes (affirmtive action). I do not know about you, but, in the lab, if you accuse a white student lazy, you do not worry about other things, the fact is the fact. If he or she is black person, you better make sure you have all the evidence, otherwise you will not be able to concentrate on your work for a while, because you are a racist. I like people in all colors, but, don't you think we play the race card too much now, it is sicking. What do you think this situation will become after B.O. is elected.

3). I just do not trust B.O.

By the way, I watch Foxnews and local media alternatively, very amusing, but, you will sort out who is lying pretty soon, we all pretty smart, right?
人类拯救计划 回复 悄悄话 回复noso的评论:
Thanks.

But those real jobs are not secure at all as the current crisis reveals.

I can see you are very enthusiatic with the Election and I appreciate it. We have the same amount of enthusiasm but in different directions.
我最无聊 回复 悄悄话 先批评此文,观点严重个人偏差,论据---中国的新闻---风马牛不相及。不过选择跟我相同,OBAMA牛到现在,掀起了一股个人魅力的风潮,但这是选总统,不太相信一个偶像派能把国家治理好。早在HILLARY还在跟他争雄的时候,我接触的很多人都喜欢HILLARY,我说的是NEW YORK,现在他们心目中的第一选择没了,那只剩了淘汰法了,那就是摆出一堆某一方的不足,而去选另一方,比如说我吧,就是不认为OBAMA行,就去选MCCAIN,而并不是说MCCAIN真的多行,至少,我这种想法很多人会有同感,GORE和BUSH 那次,有几个老美就是这么决定的,what the hell choice we have!这是他们的原话。
爱一 回复 悄悄话 I think it is ok as long as it is legal. If I take others' hard earned money, why is it NOT ok for other people to do the same to me?

Plus, you seem to think this way: if I happen to agree with something said in the media, it is because I don't have my own judgment.

I don't understand who this logic works.
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复人类拯救计划的评论:

Let me give you some advice if I may:

Leave that job to God, and find a real job for yourself.
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复爱一的评论:

what you said in the first part doesn't make any sense to me.

On the second part, as I said in my writing, those reasons are the biased junks that media and Obama campaign have been feeding voters. They did a good job to you sine you agree what they said.

Here is catch:

If it is OK for you to take other people's hard earn money for benefit yourself, will it be OK that others take pieces of your hard earn money to benefit their well being?

爱一 回复 悄悄话 I don't object to taking advantage of government programs as long as what you do is legal. But I do object people objecting to Socialism while taking advantage of programs what in essence are socialistic.

If McCain is elected, it will be a very sad thing for America. I don't think he has the right temperament for being a good president. Talking of experience, I think good judgment is more important. If McCain passes away in office, which according to acturial data, is highly possible, Palin is even worse.

What is dangerous about Palin is because she has such a small mindset, which is unfit for the arduous tasks ahead facing this great country.

人类拯救计划 回复 悄悄话 I am no longer interested in any teaching job. First I try to publish my book. Then after earning something I will open a company doing the stuff as my 人类拯救计划 indicated.
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复人类拯救计划的评论:


can you find a teaching job?
人类拯救计划 回复 悄悄话 回复noso的评论:
alabama
thanks.

I do not have Green Card. Are you willing to help me?
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复人类拯救计划的评论:


interesting, where did u graduate with Ph.D?
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复爱一的评论:

"We Chinese often apply green cards for elder parents, taking advantage of medicaid and other governmental programs. Where does that money come from?"

What a good question!

and you vote for Obama?

What are you thinking? : )
爱一 回复 悄悄话 I support Obama. Why Wall St executives should make millions of dollars? Are they so valuable compared to janitors or shop keepers? We Chinese often apply green cards for elder parents, taking advantage of medicaid and other governmental programs. Where does that money come from?
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复xiaoshi的评论:

Thank GOD we still have Foxnews to watch, otherwise, I will never watch TV any more.

Foxnews is the only network who have gutts to question Obama.

That's why Foxnews has more viewers than CNN and MSNBC combined. American are not stupid as many elit people think they are.

whenever someone questions Obama or Biden, they don't like it and shut down their voices.

人类拯救计划 回复 悄悄话 1。是巧合吗?

就在我开始写这本书一周之后,世界爆发了全球性的史无前例的金融危机和经济危机(它告诉人们,市场的民主自由和全球一体化不适合人类社会)!因人类的过度贪婪造成的温室效应几十年内不断恶化!妄称宇宙没有意义的广义相对论即将接受引力探测器B实验的宣判!我的博士毕业论文在三年前宣告星系图案是有意义的!十二年前第一个克隆动物多丽羊诞生!


人类到了是选择与自然和谐存在还是像低级动物一样自相残杀灭亡的时候!


不善良的人们,总统和亿万富翁们,相对论骗子们:在上述铁的事实面前,你还相信宇宙是没有意义的吗?你还相信世界不是物质的吗?你懂得钻木取火的简单道理吗?

xiaoshi 回复 悄悄话 Fox news 岂不更恶心?为布什和共和党敲了八年边鼓,打着爱国的大旗,入侵伊拉克,国内民生每况愈下。我看这是主流媒体的一种赎罪,也是当前民意的反应。
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复w666888的评论:


I agree with you. Only creation of job can help the economy, and who can create more jobs? Not the government, the small business will. and who is going to punish the small business? Obama!
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复潇洒走红尘的评论:


We all know talk is cheap.

When you apply a job, you need to show the records what you have done and why you are qualified for the job.

If someone says he can do a better job than the job offers, you know he is full of craps.

That person is going to be the President of this country, that's scary and I want to say wait a minute, I rather let someone who knows the job to have it.
noso 回复 悄悄话 回复高英姬的评论:


That's OK, you are entitled to what you believe.
w666888 回复 悄悄话 I don't care what they said now. I will care what they will do after they get elected.
I don't care how they collect tax. I want to see how they can stimulate the economy.
潇洒走红尘 回复 悄悄话 赞同你的观点,支持老马。不喜欢掏别人口袋里的钱去济贫的人,除非我是自愿的。劫富济贫是民主党的主线,但不应该是救美国的药方。更何况光说不练的人,让人不放心。
高英姬 回复 悄悄话 没办法,观点无法与你一致。
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