评论: 有预谋的清场:哥大学生抗议行动的最后一刻

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speakoutloudly 发表评论于 2024-05-03 13:00:31
没开坦克,没部署野战军,没有使用国际禁止的达姆弹,没有机枪扫射,美国吹牛自己世界军力第一,但却这么现眼啊,看看天朝的治理维稳那才是天花板的存在。
生肖迷宫 发表评论于 2024-05-03 10:56:01
中国留美学生在这次运动中的表现可圈可点,应该说是完成了党和人民交给的任务,你们是插在美帝心脏上的尖刀,是全民抗美运动的先锋连,建议别用头巾围着脸了,好像干见不得人的事情似的,要正当光明地干,让全世界看到的中华儿女的飒飒英姿。
Corollace 发表评论于 2024-05-03 10:28:09
难道不应该清场吗?学校是学习的地方,你影响大多人的学习生活,而且学校是私立学校,就是说在私人领地想为所欲为,不该被管吗?自由是在合法情况下的自由,你有种去找白等啊,他发命令啊。
马年生 发表评论于 2024-05-03 08:18:32
清场不意味着抗议到此为止,学生们不会就此罢休的。
柳小波 发表评论于 2024-05-03 07:28:14
东方明月- 发表评论于 2024-05-03 06:03:20
就像占领华尔街一样,号称代表99%,结果出来支持他们的人连1%都不到。
今天的学生运动,几千学生,只有几百个人集会,还有一半不是学生。
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你支持像起诉川普一样起诉这些“暴动”的学生吗?
zhshqg 发表评论于 2024-05-03 06:52:28
至少没开着坦克去轧人.
LMPG 发表评论于 2024-05-03 06:29:04
“学生扎营两天就喊警察——这是不应该的,时间也太短了。”

美国的爸爸以色列发话,谁敢不听 ?!哼!
facidisot 发表评论于 2024-05-03 06:07:15
文学城从哪里找来的垃圾!


看看真相吧!
x..../afalkhatib/status/1786181045890744602


提要:
- A small group of students and organizations developed their platform, and subsequently, the masses are being herded into following it, seemingly mindlessly and without a deep understanding of Gaza, Hamas, Israel, foreign policy, and all the relevant issues.

- Most students are sincere and have their hearts in the right place. They are, however, misguided and are being led by extreme, radical, and genuinely detrimental organizations, voices, and “revolutionary” types who are the worst possible allies and spokespeople for the Palestinian people.

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I went to the UCLA campus last night and spent a few hours there before the police dispersed the encampment. I wanted to see the pro-Palestine student protests for myself and get a sense of the atmosphere, energy, and students, as well as the movement's focus and the desired endgame. I wore a t-shirt with a chant that I hoped to use as an engagement opportunity with some students to see their views on various issues and how they perceive peace as an opportunity for the Palestinian people and cause. The chant is slightly modified from the ubiquitously repeated “from the river to the sea…” Here is what I saw:

- Right next to the parking lot and main entryway into the campus, a truck was parked with a speaker that loudly broadcast recordings from Richard Medhurst. I was disappointed and disturbed to see a rotating antisemitic symbol on top of the truck with a combined swastika and star of David. I wished that the protest organizers had removed that particular symbol, which was entirely hateful and vile. Many statements, words, and messages were plastered all over the truck, which had a Palestinian flag.

- Upon proceeding onto campus, something like 70% of protesters had masks, balaclavas, and kuffiyahs covering their faces – something that we see across college protests as students fear backlash, doxing, and retaliation for their participation. To me, as an outsider, this made the overall atmosphere immensely tense, not seeing peoples’ faces and feeling that people could do whatever they wanted while benefiting from anonymity. The environment was not conducive to dialogue, talking, discussions, debates, or anything of the sort. The message was clear; everyone who attended needed to be onboard with the dictated message and slogans or get out. You could feel the tension as many people looked around, suspicious and mistrustful of other masked protesters whom they didn’t know, fearing infiltrators, undercover cops, and pro-Israel students. As time went on, the tension I felt eased, and I became a bit more relaxed being around so many masked and covered-up faces.

- I went with my friend and ally
@LucBernard
, and we both observed people being wholly intrigued, confused, suspicious, and uncertain about me wearing a T-shirt with the modified pro-peace chant. Neither of us covered our faces, and we wanted to engage people and see what was happening, hear their thoughts, what they wanted, and why they were there.

- Thankfully, we encountered many extremely friendly people and very nice students (who were masked), and we asked questions about what’s been happening and got some intriguing details. Still, there was no room or space for bringing different views about the protests or the issue, as everybody was either on the “same page” or there was almost complete conformity with regard to the opinions that protesters espoused about Zionism, Israel, Gaza, etc.

My assessment:

1. It was truly disappointing and upsetting that the main entrance had a van with incendiary language and inflammatory rhetoric, not to mention a clearly antisemitic and vile symbol equating the swastika with the star of David. The organizers did not challenge this van; many who passed it showed immense enthusiasm and approval for its presence.

2. I can see how some students, certainly those who are Jewish and or don’t support the protesters and their message, would feel unsafe or intimidated. I felt that tension all around the campus with the masked students and the blocked entryways and barricaded areas – and it was strange to feel uneasy just wearing a t-shirt that promoted peace. Though I want to be absolutely clear: no one attacked me or said anything to me about the t-shirt despite being aggressively eye-mugged by pretty much everyone. Yet, I didn’t feel safe at all to actual...  查看完整评论
facidisot 发表评论于 2024-05-03 06:04:55
从哪里找来的垃圾!
x..../afalkhatib/status/1786181045890744602


提要:
- A small group of students and organizations developed their platform, and subsequently, the masses are being herded into following it, seemingly mindlessly and without a deep understanding of Gaza, Hamas, Israel, foreign policy, and all the relevant issues.

- Most students are sincere and have their hearts in the right place. They are, however, misguided and are being led by extreme, radical, and genuinely detrimental organizations, voices, and “revolutionary” types who are the worst possible allies and spokespeople for the Palestinian people.

××××××××××××××××××××××××××××
××××××××××××××××××××××××××××
I went to the UCLA campus last night and spent a few hours there before the police dispersed the encampment. I wanted to see the pro-Palestine student protests for myself and get a sense of the atmosphere, energy, and students, as well as the movement's focus and the desired endgame. I wore a t-shirt with a chant that I hoped to use as an engagement opportunity with some students to see their views on various issues and how they perceive peace as an opportunity for the Palestinian people and cause. The chant is slightly modified from the ubiquitously repeated “from the river to the sea…” Here is what I saw:

- Right next to the parking lot and main entryway into the campus, a truck was parked with a speaker that loudly broadcast recordings from Richard Medhurst. I was disappointed and disturbed to see a rotating antisemitic symbol on top of the truck with a combined swastika and star of David. I wished that the protest organizers had removed that particular symbol, which was entirely hateful and vile. Many statements, words, and messages were plastered all over the truck, which had a Palestinian flag.

- Upon proceeding onto campus, something like 70% of protesters had masks, balaclavas, and kuffiyahs covering their faces – something that we see across college protests as students fear backlash, doxing, and retaliation for their participation. To me, as an outsider, this made the overall atmosphere immensely tense, not seeing peoples’ faces and feeling that people could do whatever they wanted while benefiting from anonymity. The environment was not conducive to dialogue, talking, discussions, debates, or anything of the sort. The message was clear; everyone who attended needed to be onboard with the dictated message and slogans or get out. You could feel the tension as many people looked around, suspicious and mistrustful of other masked protesters whom they didn’t know, fearing infiltrators, undercover cops, and pro-Israel students. As time went on, the tension I felt eased, and I became a bit more relaxed being around so many masked and covered-up faces.

- I went with my friend and ally
@LucBernard
, and we both observed people being wholly intrigued, confused, suspicious, and uncertain about me wearing a T-shirt with the modified pro-peace chant. Neither of us covered our faces, and we wanted to engage people and see what was happening, hear their thoughts, what they wanted, and why they were there.

- Thankfully, we encountered many extremely friendly people and very nice students (who were masked), and we asked questions about what’s been happening and got some intriguing details. Still, there was no room or space for bringing different views about the protests or the issue, as everybody was either on the “same page” or there was almost complete conformity with regard to the opinions that protesters espoused about Zionism, Israel, Gaza, etc.

My assessment:

1. It was truly disappointing and upsetting that the main entrance had a van with incendiary language and inflammatory rhetoric, not to mention a clearly antisemitic and vile symbol equating the swastika with the star of David. The organizers did not challenge this van; many who passed it showed immense enthusiasm and approval for its presence.

2. I can see how some students, certainly those who are Jewish and or don’t support the protesters and their message, would feel unsafe or intimidated. I felt that tension all around the campus with the masked students and the blocked entryways and barricaded areas – and it was strange to feel uneasy just wearing a t-shirt that promoted peace. Though I want to be absolutely clear: no one attacked me or said anything to me about the t-shirt despite being aggressively eye-mugged by pretty much everyone. Yet, I didn’t feel safe at all to actually have any real or detailed conversations...  查看完整评论
东方明月- 发表评论于 2024-05-03 06:03:20
就像占领华尔街一样,号称代表99%,结果出来支持他们的人连1%都不到。
今天的学生运动,几千学生,只有几百个人集会,还有一半不是学生。
shuangxihe 发表评论于 2024-05-03 04:50:01
如果美国政府没有卷入这些事,那是跟美国不相干的;

弟兄 发表评论于 2024-05-02 20:29:59
这不是争取民主自由,反对独裁,而是中东古老的教派种族间的千年矛盾,不相干的人选边站干嘛,有这时间不如为香港人争取民主
kdgirl 发表评论于 2024-05-03 04:33:00
都送加沙
GenSecDiao 发表评论于 2024-05-03 02:04:33
“现在看,校方肯定是“胜利”了,但是却也创造了一个新历史:哥伦比亚大学毕业典礼,将在纽约警方的保护下进行。
对以自由和包容著称的著名学府来说,这真是一个讽刺。”
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学校内外那么多极左激进破坏分子,学校没办法只能请警察来维护毕业典礼的安全秩序,有什么可讽刺的?
dada2023 发表评论于 2024-05-03 00:05:26
言论自由,【婊子】标榜了一辈子的【牌坊】,倒了
___1984___ 发表评论于 2024-05-02 22:48:19
估计那一半不是学生的示威者是某些组织雇佣的。
纽约双鱼 发表评论于 2024-05-02 21:48:00
快到一半的校内被捕者都不是哥大的学生,你少代表学生来说这些话。
木崖湖 发表评论于 2024-05-02 21:23:36
“ 昨晚8点,接到革命书店发来的短信”,有意思远足哪里的“革命书店”!有人把游行言论自由等同于占领私有财产,防碍别人的自由。
iask 发表评论于 2024-05-02 21:12:06
可惜啊!只抓了几个违法的家伙,没有市民支持,没派军队镇压,没上坦克装甲车,甚至连一枪都没开。

如此轻描淡写就完成清场, 远不如当年64镇暴的解放军来的威风
ninja123 发表评论于 2024-05-02 21:09:00
盐碱地文学
ctrls 发表评论于 2024-05-02 20:49:00
还可以想新的办法来破坏毕业典礼嘛,哈哈
ca_lowhand 发表评论于 2024-05-02 20:47:00
一边是暗地里操控美国的犹太帮,一边是极端左棍加中东穆斯林,两边都不是好东西,狗咬狗咬的好
kl3527 发表评论于 2024-05-02 20:41:00
中共的一个招数就是把民主和无政府等同,然后攻击民主,同时用来做自己独裁专制的借口。
bingwood 发表评论于 2024-05-02 20:40:00
TikTok “居功至偉”,不僅不足以維持社會秩序!真希望能“令行禁止”,別拖一年!
无言32 发表评论于 2024-05-02 20:35:00
一派胡言。
竞选 发表评论于 2024-05-02 20:34:15
通过暴力,强迫别人接受自己的观点,就是独裁者的做法。美国警察抓捕他们,就是保卫美国的民主、自由。
竞选 发表评论于 2024-05-02 20:31:54
占领大楼,大楼里的正常工作就无法进行,当然违法。警察有责任抓捕他们,他们应该受到法律惩处。

要强调的是,不是惩处他们的言论,他们有言论自由权利,无论言论是否正确都受到“言论自由”保护,惩处他们的是非法占领大楼的行为,因为他们扰乱了大楼内的正常工作秩序。
弟兄 发表评论于 2024-05-02 20:29:59
这不是争取民主自由,反对独裁,而是中东古老的教派种族间的千年矛盾,不相干的人选边站干嘛,有这时间不如为香港人争取民主
一只熊 发表评论于 2024-05-02 20:27:00
满屏文革的调调。又是太监对别人的性生活指指点点,还觉得自己特懂。真是好笑
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