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比尔·盖茨表示，中国崛起是世界的胜利
Adrian Lowe，《西澳大利亚人报》，2023年1月23日
亿万富翁比尔·盖茨在悉尼洛伊研究所接受访谈。亿万富翁比尔·盖茨在悉尼洛伊研究所接受访谈。图片来源：Peter Morris/洛伊研究所 Peter Morris/悉尼负责人 peter@sydneyheads.com +61418192068/洛伊研究所;Peter Morris
世界第七大富豪比尔·盖茨表示，中国的崛起是“世界的巨大胜利”，但中美在全球发展和领导力方面的差距“令人难以置信”。
盖茨先生正在澳大利亚进行一系列演讲并休假，周一他在悉尼洛伊研究所发表讲话，称美国政治地位的减弱“令世界担忧”。
“当前的世界体系是围绕美国的领导地位构建的，”盖茨先生说。
“随着其他国家变得更加富裕，包括中国和印度在内的这些中等收入国家需要在世界治理中发挥强有力的作用，而美国如何巩固并发挥我们独特的作用，尤其是在我们政治两极分化的情况下，这其中有很多值得担忧的地方。”
比尔和梅琳达·盖茨基金会联席主席、微软前创始人盖茨先生，其财富估计达1476亿美元。他表示，前总统唐纳德·特朗普退出世界卫生组织的行为损害了美国的全球地位和声誉。
他表示，其后果是，美国在全球事务中扮演的任何角色都会惠及全世界，这一点已不再像十年前那样清晰。
他还表示，中国在全球经济和人口中所占的比重恰好与美国相当。
“我倾向于将中国的崛起视为世界的巨大胜利，”盖茨先生说。“我的意思是，这占了人类的20%。”
“中国是一个非常创新的国家，非常重要，可以说是世界第二大创新国，但（与美国的）差距令人难以置信。”
盖茨先生的基金会多年来一直致力于应对疟疾等地方性疾病以及发展中国家的经济挑战。他敦促政府和慈善机构进一步采取行动应对气候变化，以防止环境恶化加剧疾病负担和经济混乱。
他周末会见了总理安东尼·阿尔巴尼斯，讨论健康和气候变化问题。
“气候变化值得大力投资，因为它会随着时间的推移变得越来越糟，”盖茨先生说。
“如果任由气候变暖达到极端水平，比如说3到4摄氏度，那么各种自然生态系统都会消失。到时候，世界上很多地方都无法进行户外工作。”
盖茨先生大力支持将铜、锂和钴作为绿色能源转型需求的一部分，他希望世界不会“自给自足”，也不会对贸易关闭大门，从而无法获得这些资源。
“令人悲哀的是，你知道，我们正在走向这样一个世界：至少在未来十年内，人们——当然是美国——依赖中国产品的意愿将会很低，这将导致严重的效率低下，”他说道。
“但创新的数量，也就是人类整体状况的改善，仍将是巨大的。我们将治愈肥胖症，我们将治愈癌症，我们将根除脊髓灰质炎。因此，人们很容易对其中一些趋势产生过于负面的看法，而这种看法并不公平。”
“我仍然非常乐观地认为，20年后、40年后、60年后出生的人，会比过去任何时候都好得多。”
盖茨先生表示，俄罗斯入侵乌克兰的“令人难以置信的悲剧”将远远超出乌克兰的地理范围，战争不仅浪费资源，还将世界注意力从需要支持的发展中国家转移开来。
他表示，这场战争使联合国2030年可持续发展目标的实现偏离了轨道，战争持续的时间越长，实现目标的时间就越长。
盖茨先生表示，他更倾向于可再生能源而非核能，并表示即使核能“成功”，全球仍将有60%到70%的电力来自可再生能源。
“问题只是我们是否具备将其作为基载能力？”他说道。“我认为世界对这些创新的投资不足，因为它们可以带来巨大的改变。”
这位曾经的科技巨头还表示，虚假信息加剧了政治两极分化，而政治两极分化正是世界上最大的问题之一。
“我非常想帮助那些拥有我未曾想到的人工智能方法的年轻人，”他说道。
比尔·盖茨视中国崛起为“世界的巨大胜利”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/russellflannery/2023/01/26/bill-gates-sees-chinas-rise-as-a-huge-win-for-the-world/
作者：Russell Fl
annery，2023年1月26日
2021年英国全球投资峰会 (GIS) 比尔及梅琳达·盖茨基金会联席主席比尔·盖茨，摄于2021年。摄影师：
微软联合创始人、亿万富翁比尔·盖茨周一在澳大利亚的一个论坛上表示，近几十年来，中国崛起为世界领先经济体，这“对世界来说是一个巨大的胜利”，但目前中美关系面临着双输的心态。
盖茨表示：“我确实认为，美国目前对中国的心态——以及美国对中国的心态——是一种双输的心态。”
“如果你问美国政客：‘嘿，你希望中国经济萎缩20%还是增长20%？’我担心他们会投票说‘好吧，让我们让这些人陷入贫困’，却不明白，对于全球经济、抗癌药物的发明（以及）气候变化的解决方案而言，我们都是同舟共济的。我们都是人类。我们共同创新，我们必须共同以一种相当戏剧性的方式改变现代工业经济。”
“在这一点上，我非常赞同（澳大利亚前总理）陆克文的观点，”盖茨说。“在美国，我们会是少数派，那里的人都比较强硬。我认为这可能会以一种非常负面的方式自我实现。”
“我倾向于将中国的崛起视为世界的巨大胜利，”盖茨说。他还在洛伊研究所组织的一场活动中回答了关于新冠疫情、能源、乌克兰和其他议题的问题。 （点击此处查看完整讨论。）
美中关系因地缘政治问题（尤其是台湾问题）以及贸易分歧而紧张。
现年67岁的盖茨目前在《福布斯》实时亿万富翁榜上拥有1032亿美元的财富。
China's rise a win for the world but the world still needs US leadership, Bill Gates says
Adrian LoweThe West Australian
Billionaire Bill Gates in conversation at the Lowy Institute in Sydney. Credit: Peter Morris/Lowy Institute Peter Morris/Sydney Heads peter@sydneyheads.com +61418192068/Lowy Institute;Peter Morris
The world’s seventh-richest man, Bill Gates, says China’s rise has been a “huge win for the world” but the global development and leadership gap between the US and China is “unbelievable”.
Mr Gates, in Australia for a series of talks and a holiday, spoke on Monday at the Lowy Institute in Sydney, where he described the weaker political position of the US as “scary for the world”.
“The current world system is designed around US leadership,” Mr Gates said.
“And as other countries have gotten richer, these middle income countries, including China and India, need to play a strong role in world governance and how the US seeds the kind of unique role we’ve had and makes that work, particularly given our political polarisation, there’s a lot to worry about there.”
Mr Gates, the co-chair of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the former founder of Microsoft and whose wealth is estimated at $147.6 billion, said actions of former president Donald Trump in leaving the World Health Organisation had been damaging for the global standing and reputation of the US.
He said the consequences were that it was no longer as clear as it was 10 years ago or so that any role the US played in global affairs would benefit the entire world.
He also said China’s portion of the global economy and population exactly matched.
“I tend to see China’s rise as a huge win for the world,” Mr Gates said. “I mean, that’s 20 per cent of humanity.
“China is a very innovative country, very important, you know, arguably the number two innovator, but the distance (from the US) is unbelievable.”
Mr Gates, whose foundation has spent years tackling endemic diseases like malaria and developing world economic challenges, urged further government and philanthropic action on tackling climate change to help prevent environmental degradation that adds to the disease burden and economic disruption.
He met with Prime Minister Anthony Albanese at the weekend to discuss health and climate change issues.
“Climate change is worth investing in massively, is because it will get worse and worse over time,” Mr Gates said.
“And if you allow the warming to go to an extreme level, say, three degrees centigrade to four degrees centigrade, then all sorts of natural natural ecosystems disappear. And in all sorts of places in the world, you can’t do outdoor work.”
Throwing his weight behind the need for copper, lithium and cobalt as part of the needs of the green energy switch, Mr Gates hoped the world would not be “autarkic” — or that nations would not be closed off to trade — about making them available.
“It is sad that, you know, we’re devolving into a world where the willingness — certainly of the US — to be dependent on things from China, at least for a decade here will be low, and it’ll create significant inefficiencies,” he said.
“But the amount of innovation that is the improvement overall in the human condition is still going to be dramatic. We will cure obesity, we will cure cancer, we will eradicate polio. And so it’s easy to get a more negative view of some of these trends than is really fair.
“I’m still very optimistic that it’d be much better to be born 20 years from now, 40 years from now, 60 years from now than any time in the past.”
Mr Gates said the “incredible tragedy” of Russia’s invasion would be felt far beyond the geographic reaches of Ukraine, with war wasting resources and diverting attention of the world from developing nations in need of support.
He said the war had pushed achieving the United Nations 2030 Sustainable Development Goals off track and the longer it persisted, the longer that would be postponed.
Mr Gates said he preferred renewable energy over nuclear, saying even if nuclear “succeeds”, the world would still be powered between 60 to 70 per cent by renewables.
“It’s just a question of do we have that as a baseload capability?” he said. “I think the world is under invested in those innovations, because they could make a huge difference.”
The one-time tech titan also said misinformation fuelled political polarisation, which was one of the world’s biggest problems.
“I’m dying to help get behind some young person who has AI approaches to it that I haven’t come up with,” he said.
Bill Gates Sees China’s Rise As “A Huge Win For The World”
By Russell Flannery, Jan 26, 2023
Bill Gates, co-chairman of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, in 2021. Photographer:
China’s rise to a leading economy in recent decades has been “a huge win for the world,” but the U.S. and China currently face a lose-lose mentality in their relations, Microsoft co-founder and billionaire Bill Gates said at a forum in Australia on Monday.
“I do think the current mentality of the U.S. to China — and which is reciprocated — is kind of a lose-lose mentality,” Gates said.
“If you ask U.S. politicians: ‘Hey, would you like the Chinese economy to shrink by 20% or grow by 20%?’ I'm afraid they would vote that ‘Yeah, let’s immiserate those people,' not understanding that for the global economy, the invention of cancer drugs (and) the solution of climate change, we're all in this together. We’re humans. We innovate together, and we have to change the modern industrial economy together in a pretty dramatic fashion."
“I’m very aligned with (Australia’s former prime minister) Kevin Rudd on this,” Gates said. “In the U.S., we’d be in a minority, where people are kind of hawkish. I think that could be self-fulfilling in a very negative way.”
"I tend to see China's rise as a huge win for the world," said Gates, who also addressed questions about the Covid-19 pandemic, energy, the Ukraine and other topics at an event organized by the Lowy Institute. (Click here for the full discussion.)
Ties between the U.S. and China have been strained over geopolitical issues – most notably Taiwan – as well as trade disagreements.
Gates, 67, has a fortune worth $103.2 billion on the Forbes Real-Time Billionaires List today.
比尔·盖茨：我倾向于将中国崛起视为世界的巨大胜利
环球网官方账号2023.01.2710:54
【环球网综合报道】据美国《福布斯》杂志网站26日消息，美国微软公司创始人、亿万富翁比尔·盖茨近日在澳大利亚举办的一场论坛上表示，近几十年来，中国崛起为领先的经济体是“世界的巨大胜利”。
报道称，盖茨本周一在澳大利亚智库洛伊国际政策研究所举办的一场论坛上讨论了有关新冠疫情、能源、乌克兰等话题。
据报道，盖茨谈到中国时说：“我倾向于将中国崛起视为世界的巨大胜利。我的意思是，那是人类中的近20%。今天，他们在全球经济中的比重与他们在全球人口中的比重完全匹配。而你要知道，像澳大利亚、美国等国家人均国内生产总值是中国人的五倍。因此，我们在世界经济中所占的份额不成比例。”
在谈到美中关系时，盖茨说：“你要知道，我确实认为美国当前对中国的思维方式是一种双输心态，而它得到的回应也是。如果你问美国政客‘嘿，你希望中国经济收缩20%还是增长20%’，我怕他们会投票支持‘是的，让我们去搞穷那些人’，而不明白对于全球经济、癌症药物的发明、气候变化的解决来说，我们要齐心合力。”
“在这一问题上，我与（澳大利亚前总理）陆克文的观点非常一致，”他继续说，“在美国，我们是少数，那里的人有点鹰派。我认为这可能会以一种非常消极的方式自我实现。”
就盖茨有关中国的言论，有外国网友在福布斯新闻网的报道下留言表示，“我认为他们在很长一段时间内制定了最好的发展战略和计划，这就是为什么现在中国看起来是世界的巨大胜利。我认为世界上所有国家都可以像中国一样抓住这个机会，重要的是要做出决定，不要害怕。”
中国外交部发言人2022年12月1日在例行记者会上就有关影响中美两国和世界的问题表示，双方团队应将两国元首达成的共识落到实处，按照两国元首确定的工作重点，保持对话沟通，管控矛盾分歧，推动交往合作，为中美关系增添正能量、装上安全阀，为动荡变革的世界注入稳定性和确定性。
