转载-华科大女生跳楼-English-JP (图)
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华科大女生跳楼 校领导等人围观半小时无人施救(图)  
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 华科大女生跳楼 校领导等人围观半小时无人施救(图) 综合新闻

 近日,各大论坛社区纷纷转载题为《大学女生跳楼,领导及辅导员围观半小时无人施救》的帖子,引发网友极大反响。据帖子称,华中科技大学无视学生跳楼,校领导及辅导员围观半小时无人施救,并封锁了学校的BBS和删除有关学生提交在论坛的帖子。此举引学生非常不满,于是网上发帖寻公道。

帖子详情:

  大学女生跳楼,领导及辅导员围观半小时无人施救, 首先,这是今天中午死者家属散发的求助信。
花样少女陨落同济医学院-

  高静,华中科技大学同济医学院03级品学兼优的英护班学生,于2008年3月14日上午10:45分从508栋9楼楼顶纵身跳下,在跳下之前曾在楼顶上坐了半个小时,可悲的是,学院竟未采取任何有效营救措施,导致了一个23岁的正值青春年华前途美好的少女生命的陨落!况且这已经是该院2008年生命悲剧的第二次重演。学院事前保护、事后救援措施如此低效!对待生命如此冷漠!人性何在?伦理何在?呼吁社会善良人士出来主持公道!

  下面是我个人对此事件的描述。 

  14号早上,我正在做事情,然后听同学说学子苑(学生宿舍区)又有人跳楼了。我赶过去看,人已经死掉了。没出一滴血。是内伤。尸体在宿舍楼下的空地摆放着,上面盖着一层白布。一群看起来像是领导和辅导员之类的人在旁边,不准人靠近。跳楼嘛,肯定是自己想不开了。这种事情这几年在我们学院已经发生了5次,几乎都习已为常了。然后,我走开了,继续做我自己的事情。

  刚回来,就遇到学生干部传达学校的指示,禁止传播、谈论相关信息。并且带有一定的威胁口吻。当时我心下纳闷,以前学生跳楼学校没这么慌张的,难道有什么见不得人的事么?想上校BBS看看,发现已经被封了。学校速度还真快。

  不过,还有一个论坛,是毕业校友出资建立的,而且服务器在外地,学校鞭长莫及,因此,这个BBS,成了大家了解真相的主要来源。摘录发言如下:(注:为保护隐私起见,发言人ID隐去,只附上发言时间,论坛的话,大家可以baidu)

  2008-3-1411:09:27

  好像是某学院的今年1月份的也是。

  我个人觉得这个学院,对学生不够关心,而且很多事有些专制霸道。

  当然,我这样的联系,也是臆测了,只是我个人在这个地方的感受。

  2008-3-1415:58:28

  她,真的是,在没有防护的平台上,徘徊了20几分钟吗?

  目睹的老师同学们,乃至学子苑里的学校工作部门,真的是无能为力了么?

  110,真的是半个小时才赶到么?

  是因为这样,START论坛,才被关闭了么?逃避有用么?

  拯救生命,是医生的天职。

  我们要了解真相,反思自己。

  2008-3-1422:40:35

  好惨,牛仔裤都裂开了,只看到大腿都露出来了,所谓的那些领导畜生,个个谈笑风生,吆喝着我们不让靠近,怎么不送同济外科啊,我们拚了命也要救她啊,肏,同济垃圾!

  2008-3-1423:42:12

  先默哀!据说她是某学院的大五学生。今天,在阳光下,在逝者未寒的尸体旁,“某学院”的某个人又在对着周围的同学大声威胁呵斥,再一次在阳光下展露他的嘴脸——他是在下见过唯一一个头发已经斑白却扔很缺乏教养的人,为他汗颜啊!

  2008-3-159:33:15

  据我所知,这位同学现在在医院实习,最近要参加补考考试,医院老师发现她不太对劲,她告诉老师,她不喜欢学医,看不进书,心理很抑郁,老师开导了她并让她在寝室好好复习,并通知了她的辅导员。辅导员也和她谈过,告诉她,补考的时候只要带书去抄就可以过了,在昨天早上还打过电话给她,她告诉辅导员,她过了早就看书,随后发生了什么就不得而知了。出事时我不在现场,当时是不是可以挽救,也不好多说。

  据说这位同学已经签了广州的一家医院(可能护理学的工作比较好找),所以她就业压力并不大。

  悲剧已经发生了,我很难过。我想,这其实很多人都有责任!教育体制是不是有问题?学校志愿调剂是不是不合理?学校老师对学生心理是不是不够重视?同学之间是不是关心不够?父母是不是缺少交流?个人是不是缺乏责任感?

  其实不想去责备谁了,只是希望死去的人能够安息,活着人能够懂得珍惜,珍惜生命!

  还有一个疑问:英护班明明是属于护理学系的,即使实习也还是护理系管的啊,怎么扯上二系了?

  2008-3-1519:02:25

  今天就在今天,我眼睁睁地看着一个鲜活的生命就这样,嘭地一声,青春之花就这样凋零了。很可惜我的上篇qq日志她没有看见。当时我到很想爬上去和她聊一聊。这也只是想,太高了我也怕。从04年听说跳了2个,05年我到武汉,08年我要毕业了,前前后后,在同济这个巴掌大的地方跳了多少个啊??学生,清洁工,学校领导,这一个个都是怎么了?都选择了学校这个地方结束自己的生命。都选择了需要极大勇气的跳楼!!不过今天我亲眼见到了,一个字,惨!!

  医学院的学生是很命苦啊!!学习压力大,就业形势不好,医患关系恶化。大家对自己的前途无法预测。加上考试,末位淘汰,科研,导师没人性。同济是个很奇怪的学校,在同济生活压抑的感觉无处不在。首先是人多,到处是人,教室找个地看书不是个容易的事情。其次是生活要收费的监狱里,这里学生住在一个四面被铁栅栏包围的名曰学子苑的地方,我一直叫它纳粹集中营。进进出出只能一个出口,其他出口只有在每天放风的时间开放。食堂的饭菜是阶级饭,价格是随意向上变动的。棉室要交电费,也很正常,不过得限制使用电。算了,不想说了。

  很难想象她的爸爸妈妈知道以后的神色,白发人送黑发人啊!

  她深吸了口气,看了看地,挺起胸膛,纵身一跃!!我想这个镜头会深深留在我的记忆里长久,因为它是一个已经磷酸化了的蛋白质!!

  从这些发言中我大约窥见了一些事情真相。这位同学因为心理问题,在楼顶上呆了半个多小时,但院领导及其辅导员在楼下观望半小时,无一人采取任何施救措施。最终导致了悲剧的发生。

  高静同学,她本来有光明的前景(已签约广州一家医院),也有疼爱她的父母及弟妹(当天下午赶来,此刻正在为其讨要公道),在桃花烂漫的季节,一个年轻的生命就这样如花瓣一样坠落在地上零落作尘。或许,她自己选择了死亡,我们无法评判。但是,那半小时中,学院领导及辅导员的冷漠和不作为,我觉得应该受到谴责。短短的半小时,有多少个可能逆转的机会呢?假使那帮大人老爷们稍微有点良知,试图去解决一下问题,那么,今天白发人送黑发人的悲剧,可能就不会发生了。

  让我们来看看事情前后学校都做了些什么。半小时的漠然等待,使宝贵的时间一分一秒的流逝。女生跳楼坠地之后,也未采取任何抢救措施,而且呵斥、阻止旁观的同学上前施救(2008-3-1422:40:35好惨,牛仔裤都裂开了,只看到大腿都露出来了,所谓的那些领导畜生个个谈笑风声,吆喝着我们不让靠近,怎么不送同济外科啊,我们拚了命也要救她啊,草,同济垃圾!)顺便说一下,我们学校的附属同济医院,离学子苑跳楼地点就只有2分钟的距离。2分钟,就可以把人送到急救室!但是,10点45分人跳下来,尸体摆放在学生宿舍区,12点过后才有人来处理。然后,学校忙着封锁消息,关闭校论坛,威胁同学。

  值得一提的是,当死者家属前来的时候,学校竟然找来流氓进行驱赶(2008-3-1611:48:34学校是否找了些社会上的混混来赶高静的父母?昨天下午出去买东西,走到学校门口,看见高静的父母在学校门口哭的不像样了。旁边还有他们家的几个人扯着横幅,好像是写的同济医学院还高静同学说法(记不清具体是什么了)回来的时候,看见几个人跟她父母扯在一起。那几个人看上去十分象社会上的小混混,还有的耳朵后面插着烟。晚上在网上看到有人说,校卫队接到行政领导的指示,要修理高静家人。不知道学校是否真的如此龌龊,听说昨天早上她父母还在她跳楼的地方哭,然后来了人凶他们)今天中午我出去吃饭路过校门时,又看见高静的家人在学校门口被不明身份的人拉扯(无制服,非pol.ice,非学校保安),很多人都在围观。

  基本上我知道的事实就是这些了。我把我所知道的全部信息,尽量做一个客观描述(当然其中肯定是不可避免的夹杂些主观情绪的)。如果有朋友对这些事情的真实性表示质疑,我很遗憾我无法举证。因为这些都是那个尚未被封的论坛上的其他知情同学的陈述。那是个内部论坛,新ID注册三个月之后才能发言。所以,应该不会有马甲在三个月前注册,预料到跳楼事件的发生,再来刻意的抹黑自己的母校。

  我发帖是专门跑出来在学校旁边的网吧来发,因为我还是在读学生,如果学校通过查IP查到了我的院系,无疑是一种巨大灾难。(这种事情有前车之鉴的,可以说是我校光荣传统。03年的3月份,就因为有同学在BBS上发了一个号召大家3.15不要去食堂吃饭,表示对食堂涨价的抗议的帖子,学校如临大敌,让辅导员开会威胁同学们,并让辅导员带着网管,趁学生上课的时候破门而入,挨个的去查学生宿舍每台电脑的使用纪录,想把发帖的人找出来)有鉴于此,我不会透露有关我个人的任何信息,请大家理解。同时,我也不会刻意的去打听此事进展,以免被任何人怀疑。如果大家对事件的真实性有怀疑,不妨拨打高静同学家人的手机:13007112664(中午我接到的传单上所附的)。希望能有热心的网友(非本校在读学生)能探明事情的真相,还死者家人一个公道,让那些冷漠的人,受到应有的谴责。

  帖子最后附上照片地址,一部分是我今天中午拍的,死者家属在校门口讨要公道的现场(同样为个人安全起见,照片为远距离拍摄,不过大家应该能想象到死者家属的表情),还有几张是昨天上午其他同学偷拍的跳楼现场。希望这些照片,能够增加事件可信度。

  我和高静同学及其家人素昧平生,除了从她弟弟手里拿过一张传单,未做过任何接触。(安全起见)我之所以写了这么多话发到网上,是出于对死者家人的同情,以及对学校冷漠、流氓态度的义愤。但是作为一个在读学生,我所能做的只有这么多了,也无所谓是否被看成是懦弱。发完贴子我就会从网吧回去,然后在宿舍关注这个帖子。欢迎大家提问。由于害怕被查出IP,所以我不会用自己的机器发言,但是我会记下大家的问题,明天中午到网吧一并解答。虽然我知道的基本只有以上那么多了,但我会把我所知道的全部都如实告诉大家,请大家相信我的诚意。也希望能有正义人士和高静家人联系,进一步发掘出事情的真相,告诉大家。

  还未封闭的论坛上大家都在为死去的同学念经祈福,因为据说自杀的人是无x回的。我在这里呼吁网友:把这个帖子顶起来,让更多的人看到,直到学校给死者家属,给所有同学,给这个社会一个符合伦理的说法。谢谢大家!

编者按-就在这样的大悲剧中,还有一群猴子一再在作祟-电脑上右键失灵!
 
編者付記-はこのような大きい悲劇の中で、1群のサルはあります何度も災いする-コンピュータの上で(マウスの)右ボタンは故障を起こします!
 

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The Chinese Science and Technology Institute of China female student jumps from an upper story person and so on school leader surrounds half hour nobody to execute rescues (chart)  Local Access hits toward the Chinese telephone card 1.3 ¢/minute kinds
  
 Article origin: Comprehensive news to 2008-03-19 01:06:05 
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 The Chinese Science and Technology Institute of China female student jumps from an upper story person and so on school leader surrounds half hour nobody to execute rescues (chart) the comprehensive news

Recently, each big forum community in abundance reprinted the topic was "University Female student Jumps from an upper story, Leader And Instructor Surrounded Half Hour Nobody Executed Rescues" the card, initiated 网友 the enormous echo. According to the card stated that, the Central China scientific and technical university disregards the student to jump from an upper story, the school leader and the instructor surrounds half hour nobody to execute rescues, and blocked school BBS to submit with the deletion concerned student at the forum card. This act makes the student extremely to be discontented, thereupon on-line sends the placard to seek the justice.

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The university female students jump from an upper story, the leader and the instructor surrounds half hour nobody to execute rescues

First, this is the midday dead family member sends out seeks help the letter.

The pattern young girl falls from the sky the Tongji University medical college

High is static, Central China scientific and technical university Tongji University medical college 03 level of excellent in conduct and academy England protects the class student, to March 14, 2008 morning 10: 45 minute jump from 508 9 buildings roofs to jump, in jump before once have sat in the roof for half hour, what are pitiful, the institute has not unexpectedly taken any effective rescue measure, has caused 23 year-old just when youth time passage future happy young girl life falling from the sky! Moreover this already was this courtyard in 2008 the life tragedy second time repeats. The institute protected in anticipation, afterwards rescues the measure so low effect! The treatment life is so indifferent! Human nature what in? Ethics what in? Appealed the social good public figures come out uphold the justice!

Under is my regarding this event description.

14 earlies morning, I am handling the matter, then listens to the schoolmate to say the scholar park (student's dormitory area) some people jumped from an upper story. I caught up with looked that, the person already died. A drop of blood. Is the internal injury. The corpse is placing under dormitory building open area, the above is covering plain white cloth. A crowd looks like the picture is the leader and the instructor and so on person in side, does not permit the person to approach. Jumps from an upper story, definitely was oneself cannot look on the bright side of thing. This kind of matter these years have already had 5 in our institute, nearly all custom already for often. Then, I got out of the way, continues to handle I matter.

Just came back, ran into the student cadre to transmit the school the instruction, the prohibition dissemination, the discussion related information. And has the certain threat tone. At that time under my heart wondered, beforehand student jumped from an upper story the school not such flustered, had what shameful matter? Thought Colonel BBS has a look, to discover is already sealed. The school speed really is also quick.

But, but also some forum, is graduates the alumnus to invest the establishment, moreover the server in the outside areas, the school is beyond control, therefore, this BBS, has become everybody understanding truth main origin. Extract speech as follows: (Note: In order to protect the privacy in order to, spokesperson ID hides, only the enclosed speech time, the forum speech, everybody may baidu) 
 





 

2008-3-1411:09:27

Looks like is some institute's this January also is

I thought this institute insufficiently cares about moreover very many matters to the student some despotic to be overbearing

Certainly I such relation also was had speculated only was I in this place feeling

2008-3-1415:58:28

She really was had not paced back and forth in the protection platform more than 20 minutes?

Witness teacher the schoolmates and even the scholar Yuenli's school work department really was has been helpless?

110 really is half hour only then rushes?

Is because of like this, the START forum has been only then closed? Evades is useful?

Saves the life is doctor's inherent responsibilities.

We must understand the truth, reconsiders oneself.

2008-3-1422:40:35

Good is miserable, the jeans all split, only saw the thigh all revealed, the so-called these leaderships domestic animal all chatted the rumour, called we not to let approach, how didn't deliver Tongji University the surgical department, we risked death also must rescue her, grass, Tongji University trash!

2008-3-1423:42:12

First pays silent tribute! It is said she is some institute's big five student. Today, under sunlight, nearby deceased not cold corpse, "some institute" some person in treats the periphery schoolmate loudly to threaten scolds, exposes him under the sunlight countenance - he was once again has seen the person in under which the only 11 hairs already graying actually threw lacks the education very much, blushed with shame for him!

2008-3-159:33:15

As far as I know, this schoolmate now in the hospital practice, recently wanted to participate in the make-up test test, hospital teacher discovered she not too to the vigor, she told teacher, she did not like studying the medicine, could not look the book, the psychology was very despondent, teacher enlightened her certainly to let her review well in the bedroom, and has informed her instructor. The instructor also and she had discussed, tells her, make-up test time so long as the belt book copied may, also made the phone call in yesterday early morning to give her, her tells the instructor, she has already read, afterwards had any to be unknown. Has an accident when I in the scene, at that time was not may save, also many did not say.

It is said this schoolmate already signed a Guangzhou's hospital (possibly nursing study work quite well to look), therefore her employment pressure was not certainly big.

The tragedy has already occurred, I feel bad very much. I thought that, this actually very many people all have the responsibility! The education system has the question? The school wish fills a prescription is not is unreasonable? School teacher is not insufficiently takes to the student psychology? Between the schoolmate is not the care is insufficient? The parents lack the exchange? Individual is not the deficient sense of responsibility?

Who actually didn't want to blame, only was the person which the hope died can rest, lives the person to be able to understand treasures, treasured the life!

Also some question: England protects the class obviously is belongs nurses the department, even if practises also or nurses is the tube, how pulled two is?

2008-3-1519:02:25

Today on in today, I helplessly looks a bright life like this, bang, flower of the youth like this was on the wane. Was a pity very much my previous qq diary she has not seen. At that time I to very wanted to climb up and her chat. This also only is thought that, too high I had also feared. From 04 years heard jumped 2, 05 years I arrive Wuhan, 08 years I must graduate, from all sides, how many jumped in the Tongji University this palm of the hand big place? ? The student, the sanitation engineer, was the school leader, how this each one all? All chose school this place to finish own life. All chose has needed the enormous courage jumping from an upper story! ! Today but I with own eyes saw, a character, miserable! !

Medical college's students are very the cruel fate! ! Study pressure high, the employment situation is not good, medical trouble relations worsening. Everybody is unable to own future to forecast. Adds on the test, the lowliest place elimination, the scientific research, teacher nobody nature. Tongji University is a very strange school, lives the feeling there is no place in Tongji University which constrains not in. First is the person are many, everywhere is the person, the classroom looks for a place to read is not an easy matter. Next is in a jail which the life must collect fees, here student lives around the name which is surrounded by the hard stockade said the scholar park the place, I continuously call it the Nazi concentration camp. Passes in and out only can an export, other exportation only have the time opening which lets in fresh air every day. The cafeteria meal is the social class food, the price is at will the upward change. The cotton and kapok room must hand over the electrical bill, also is very normal, but limit use electricity. Had calculated, did not want to say.

Very difficult to imagine her father and mother to know later the look, the white hair person will deliver the black hair person!

She has deeply attracted the tone, looks, sticks out chest, jumps a leap! ! I thought this lens can deep  be long-time in mine memory, because it was already the phosphorylation protein! !

I probably sneaked a peek at some truths from these speeches. This schoolmate because of the psychological question, has stayed for more than half hours in the roof, but the courtyard leader and its the instructor wait and see for half hour under the building, does not have a person to adopt any executes rescues the measure. Finally has caused the tragedy occurrence.

The high static schoolmate, she originally has the light the prospect (to sign a treaty a Guangzhou hospital), also has dotes on her the parents and the sister-in-law (the same day afternoon catches up with, this moment is begging justice for it), in the peach blossom brilliant season, a young life equally crashes like this on like the flower petal on the place fallen makes the dust. Perhaps, she have chosen the death, we are unable to judge. But, in that half hour, the institute leaders and the instructor are indifferent and did not take that, I thought should receive the condemnation. The short half hour, how many possibilities do reverse opportunity? If that group of adult big wigs slightly a little conscience, attempts to solve the problem, then, the white hair person delivers the black hair person's tragedy today, possibly could not occur.

Let us have a look around the matter the school all to make any. Half hour indifferently waited for that, causes a precious time minute second passing. After the female student jumps from an upper story falls the place, also has not taken any rescue measure, moreover scolds the schoolmate which, prevents to look on to go forward to execute rescues (well 2008-3-1422:40:35 is miserable, jeans all split, only saw thigh all revealed, so-called these leaderships domestic animal all chatted rumour, called we not to let approach, how didn't deliver Tongji University surgical department, we risked death also must rescue her, grass, Tongji University trash!) By the way, our school attached Tongji University hospital, jumps from an upper story the place to the scholar park only to have 2 minutes distances. 2 minutes, may deliver the person the first-aid room! But, 10 45 minute people jump down, the corpse places in the student's dormitory area, after 12 only then some people have processed. Then, the school is busy is blocking off the flow of news, the closure school forum, threatens the schoolmate.

What is worth mentioning, the pawning with no intention of redeeming family member comes, the school unexpectedly asks the hoodlum to carry on the action of driving away (2008-3-1611:48:34 school whether has looked for the parents which in a society mixes catches up with Gao Jing? Yesterday afternoon exited buys the thing, walked to the school entrance, saw Gao Jing the parents cried in the school entrance It is ill-shaped. Side also has their family several people to pull the banner, looks like the Tongji University medical college also high static schoolmate view which is writes (to record not not clear is concrete is any) comes back, sees several people with her parents to pull in the same place. That several people have a liking for in ten scanning societies slightly mix, but also behind some ears is inserting the smoke. Evening on-line saw some people said, the school armed escort receives the administrative leadership the instruction, must repair the high static family member. Did not know the school really so is whether dirty, heard yesterday early morning her parents also the place which jumped from an upper story in her cry, then has come when the person is ominous they) midday I to exit eats meal passed by the school gate, also sees Gao Jing the family member is pulled in the school entrance by the unclear status person (does not have uniform, non- pol.ice, non- school security), very many people all were surrounding.

Basically I knew the fact was these. I complete information which knew me, makes an objective description (certainly definitely is as far as possible an inevitable mixture subjective mood). If has the friend to these matters authentic expression questions, I am very regrettable I to be unable to present evidence. Because these all are that not yet at forum other which seals is known the circumstances of the matter schoolmate's statement. That is the internal forum, new ID registers for three months can speak. Therefore, should not be able to have the waistcoat in three months preregisters, expected jumps from an upper story the event occurrence, again comes sedulously to discredit own alma mater.

I send the placard am specially run send nearby the school internet bar, because I or am reading the student, if the school through looked up IP to look up my courtyard department, without doubt was one kind of huge disaster. (This kind of matter has learns from another's mistakes, may say is my school glorious tradition. 03 years in March, because had the schoolmate to send on BBS to summon everybody 3.15 did not have to go to the cafeteria to eat meal, expressed rose in prices the protest card to the cafeteria, the school is critical situation, lets the instructor hold a meeting to threaten the schoolmates, and let the instructor bring the network management, attended class the time while the student burst in, suffers to look up student's dormitory each computer the use record, wanted the person which sent the placard to discover) has in view of this, I could not disclose concerned my any information, asked everybody to understand. At the same time, I cannot sedulously inquire this matter progress, in order to avoid was suspected by any person. If everybody has the suspicion to the event authenticity, might as well dials the high static schoolmate family member's handset: 13.007112664 billion (noon I receive in circular attaches). The hope can have warm-hearted 网友 (non- this school to read student) to be able to verify the matter the truth, but also a dead family member justice, lets these indifferent people, receives condemnation which should have.

The card finally enclosed picture address, a part is I midday pats, the dead family member begs the justice in the school entrance the scene (similarly for individual security in order to, picture is long-distance range photography, but everybody should be able to imagine to the dead family member's expression), but also some several were the yesterday morning other schoolmates photographs surreptitiously jumps from an upper story the scene. Hoped these pictures, can increase the event confidence level.

I and the high static schoolmate and its the family member have never met before, except has taken circular from her younger brother hand, has not made any contact. (Security in order to) I therefore wrote such many speeches to send on-line, was stems from to the dead family member's sympathy, as well as was indifferent, the hoodlum manner righteous indignation to the school. But took is reading the student, I could do only have such many, also did not matter whether is regarded as is spiritless. Sends the posting I to be able to go back from the internet bar, then pays attention to this card in the dormitory. Welcome everybody inquiry. Because is afraid is found out IP, therefore I cannot use own machine speech, but I can take down everybody the question, tomorrow noon to internet bar one and explanation. Above although I knew basically only have that many, but I could completely all truthfully tell everybody which knew me, asked everybody to believe my sincerity. Also hoped can have the just public figure and the high static family member relates, further excavates the matter the truth, tells everybody.

Also It doesn't close at the forum everybody in for the schoolmate which died chants scripture to pray, because it is said commits suicide the person is does not have x. I appeal Net friend in here: Jacks this card, lets more people see, until the school for the dead the family member, for all schoolmates, conforms to ethics view for this social. Thanks everybody!